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PRBuzz 02-22-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 749991)
Just moved and finally have a place to put out some bird feeders. I want to get the feeders out soon in hopes that as they migrate back, some birds will take residence in the trees around us.

Suggestions on feeders and seed that they like the most?

Go to Ocean State Job and pick up some single tube, squirrel proof feeders, a bag of black oil sun flower, a bag of thistle and a bag of premium mix. Couple suet cakes and holders, too.

I spread seed liberally on the ground besides the tubes. The junkos/finches really like the thistle but I've had mixed luck with thistle tube feeders so put on the ground.

JohnnyD 02-22-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 749995)
Go to Ocean State Job and pick up some single tube, squirrel proof feeders, a bag of black oil sun flower, a bag of thistle and a bag of premium mix. Couple suet cakes and holders, too.

I spread seed liberally on the ground besides the tubes. The junkos/finches really like the thistle but I've had mixed luck with thistle tube feeders so put on the ground.

Sounds good. Thanks!

justplugit 02-22-2010 11:16 PM

Make up a few birdhouses, JD. Most important is dimensions,
size of entrance hole and height you hang depending on the
species you want to keep around.

mekcotuit 02-23-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 2na (Post 749745)
Anyone else ever see one like this? She made it through her 1st winter, probably blended in!

I showed these photo to a friend of mine who is a professor of biology at UMaine and her specialty is birds. (she travels world over studying different kinds) here is what she said:

wow! no, actually, I think it is a male...the bills seems too red to be a female. It may be a 'mosaic' of male and female parts (gynandromorph!)- a genetic/developmental condition where parts of the body develop one way or the other. Usually if birds have white feathers where they should'nt, they tend to have much more of it than this bird! And the non-white parts look like a mix of male and female. Where were photos taken?? good spotting on the photographers part!

2na 02-23-2010 08:43 AM

Mek, thanks for the 411. Come to think of it, it was whiter and more female looking up to a couple of weeks ago.

Johnny, Ocean State is a good place for cheep seed (and those 'squirrel proof' feeders are $10 a pop, good deal), but watch out for thistle. As a kid my mom had thistle feeders and some of the seed took. Stepping barefoot on a thistle is not something you'll forget. I mix black sunflower with millet, Ocean State is/was somewhere around $20 for 50 lbs of black sun.

For your suet, the best holders are those lobster trap bait bags that litter the beach. I've got a stash, want me to drop some by Dan's? I'm headed down this week (and only 3 weekends until I open the cottage and get my feeders there going!)

Big D 02-23-2010 09:24 AM

Mike what have you been feeding that bird. I hope its part of your genetic research to rid of us those f****** seals. Its really cool to see freaks of nature, plus get a picture.

FishermanTim 02-23-2010 10:55 AM

I wouldn't be too concerned about any seed taking hold unless they fall into an area where the birds can't get to it.
I agree with tube feeders (squirrel-proof if possible) and suet feeders.
As for seeds, I only put out two kinds. Black oil sunflower seeds for the larger birds and thistle for the smaller.
I would stay away from the "seed mixes" because those contain weed seeds. No,, the company isn't trying to put one over on you, it's just that one of the seeds included in these blends is millet, which is a weed in these parts.

I get a variety of suet mixes to see what they like best, but they like EVERYTHING, so it doesn't really matter.

A few more things to consider:
If you plan on putting up a few birdhouses, don't put them in the same tree as the feeders. Birds won't nest where they feed.
They may start a nest, but will abandon it once the area gets crowded with birds traffic.
As the weather gets warmer, you can also put out fresh fruit for the birds. Apple and orange halves speared on a small branch will do.
It works well for orioles when they arrive in a month or so.

One last suggestion would be to think about water, either a drinking or bathing setup. If you have a man-made pond, you would already know that birds NEED water as much as food.
Even a small bowl will do for thirty birds.

Good luck!

gone fishin 02-23-2010 11:14 AM

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Here is my resident hawk. He hangs around all winter.

redcrbbr 02-23-2010 12:52 PM

had a good size flight or redwings with a couple of grackles mixed in at the feeders this morning. may have one or two stragglers during the winter, a sign of spring to me when they start showing up in numbers.

JohnnyD 02-23-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 750064)
I wouldn't be too concerned about any seed taking hold unless they fall into an area where the birds can't get to it.
I agree with tube feeders (squirrel-proof if possible) and suet feeders.
As for seeds, I only put out two kinds. Black oil sunflower seeds for the larger birds and thistle for the smaller.
I would stay away from the "seed mixes" because those contain weed seeds. No,, the company isn't trying to put one over on you, it's just that one of the seeds included in these blends is millet, which is a weed in these parts.

I get a variety of suet mixes to see what they like best, but they like EVERYTHING, so it doesn't really matter.

A few more things to consider:
If you plan on putting up a few birdhouses, don't put them in the same tree as the feeders. Birds won't nest where they feed.
They may start a nest, but will abandon it once the area gets crowded with birds traffic.
As the weather gets warmer, you can also put out fresh fruit for the birds. Apple and orange halves speared on a small branch will do.
It works well for orioles when they arrive in a month or so.

One last suggestion would be to think about water, either a drinking or bathing setup. If you have a man-made pond, you would already know that birds NEED water as much as food.
Even a small bowl will do for thirty birds.

Good luck!

Wow! Awesome tips. Thank you and everyone for the advice.

With the weather creeping a bit warmer, I think I'm going to head out to the shop this week and build some bird houses. We only have one or two trees in the yard and they're in the far back corner. Going to head to Home Depot and see what I can fasten up with steel poles to hold the feeders.

I'd like to put some water out for them but I'm concerned about standing water and mosquitoes.

FishermanTim 02-23-2010 05:45 PM

One thing to be aware of when building birdhouses:
Every birdhouse can be plundered by other birds.
What I mean is that even if you build the house with the right size opening, if the house is left unoccupied it will be ransacked by the neighborhood equivilent of the local "gang".
Sparrows are my primary residents due to their bug-catching ability.
(If you get a mating pair in one of your houses, watch them after the young have hatched. They will fly back time and time again with beaks loaded with a multitude of local insects (mostly mosquitos).

Starlings like the challenge of widening the opening, but they don't stay in one spot for long, so soon many more species may check out the house because the opening is large enough for them to enter.

Last but not least are the squirrels. They will try to get at the sunflower seeds and the suet if they can.
They also will try and get into the birdhouses if they are big enough for them. (Note that they LIKE LOTS of insulation, so they will stuff everything including the kitchen sink into a house they have their eyes on.

Still, they are managable and shouldn't deter you in any way.

justplugit 02-23-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 750155)

Starlings like the challenge of widening the opening, but they don't stay in one spot for long, so soon many more species may check out the house because the opening is large enough for them to enter.

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FT, i found a good trick in prventing the "outlaws" from making the hole larger.
Epoxy a fender washer, drilled out to the the right size, over the opening.

striperman36 02-23-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 750095)
Wow! Awesome tips. Thank you and everyone for the advice.

With the weather creeping a bit warmer, I think I'm going to head out to the shop this week and build some bird houses. We only have one or two trees in the yard and they're in the far back corner. Going to head to Home Depot and see what I can fasten up with steel poles to hold the feeders.

I'd like to put some water out for them but I'm concerned about standing water and mosquitoes.

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striperman36 02-23-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 750155)
One thing to be aware of when building birdhouses:
Every birdhouse can be plundered by other birds.
What I mean is that even if you build the house with the right size opening, if the house is left unoccupied it will be ransacked by the neighborhood equivilent of the local "gang".
Sparrows are my primary residents due to their bug-catching ability.
(If you get a mating pair in one of your houses, watch them after the young have hatched. They will fly back time and time again with beaks loaded with a multitude of local insects (mostly mosquitos).

Starlings like the challenge of widening the opening, but they don't stay in one spot for long, so soon many more species may check out the house because the opening is large enough for them to enter.

Last but not least are the squirrels. They will try to get at the sunflower seeds and the suet if they can.
They also will try and get into the birdhouses if they are big enough for them. (Note that they LIKE LOTS of insulation, so they will stuff everything including the kitchen sink into a house they have their eyes on.

Still, they are managable and shouldn't deter you in any way.

I've double layered some of my entrance holes to keep the vermints out
The best thing seems to be to clean it out as soon as you can after the young have left.

likwid 02-27-2010 04:45 PM

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:)

Got some better pics of him and his dusky friends.

striperman36 02-27-2010 04:46 PM

Old Grandad!!

likwid 02-27-2010 06:36 PM

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He spent a solid 3 hours by the feeder during the snowstorm yesterday.

Raven 02-28-2010 07:31 AM

get creative
 
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i didn't have birds in this shot.... because it was a camera test having just installed new batteries

but here is what i did ...i added an upright post to the deck railing
so i could screw on a piece of "pine slab with Bark" on it...

the Woodies love going up this.....(same as a tree to them)

i added an old bird house which is full of "shelled" sunflower seed....so its protected from the elements and its fun seeing the smaller birds going in an out....

i added old christmas trees...(free) too for shelter and i toss a few handfulls of seed into them...

have to get more suet today because they wiped it out already

chrisjoe13 02-28-2010 09:35 AM

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Love this thread!

I alway notice birds where ever I am. Have most of the birds around that have been mentioned (never see blue birds though). I do get a flock of wax wings for a few hours in the fall (clean out the cherries from an ornamental tree), and also there are always a few phoebies around during the summer (back and forth to their nests all day).

A few years ago I got to go with my Uncle to tag the peregrines that live on top of the Fleet building in Prov. Awesome experience. We acted as "spotters" for my Uncle. The adult female would fly away and about 2 seconds later would be flying back at full speed (very fast, 180+ mph) in an attempt to claw his head and back. We'd call out, my Uncle would duck, and the falcon's claws would either miss or scrape off the top of his hard hat or jacket! The larger male just stood there watching and not caring. Very cool to see. He was heading to the Newport bridge after that but I didn't have it in me to climb out there!

He also tags the bald eagles that live in scituate, RI. every year. DEM rows him out to the island, he climbs a huge pine tree loaded with poison ivy vines and sits INSIDE the nest while he tags. The eagles just fly around and don't bother him while he is doing this. He's an interesting guy with a great job. These are the only two pics I have of him. He waited 18 yrs for a moose tag and drew one this past fall (he already said he will never do it again). The other is a 40+ inch bass landed on an 8wght. fly rod from the surf in Maine. The third picture is of a red-breasted hawk, the only one I have ever seen.

basswipe 02-28-2010 10:45 AM

We're getting a woodpecker(downy) at out suet feeders.The house finches of the season have showed too.

The one thing I'm not looking forward to are thousands of grackles that roost in the huge pines in my neighbor's yard.They start EARLY and are very loud!

Chris in Mass 03-14-2010 11:47 AM

Northern Flicker today at the feeder (Red Spot on the back of the head - Yellow Shafted I beleive). First one I have spotted. Soft ground and wind slowly pushed over iron pole so feeders are at about ground level. Not sure if this is what attracted it or not. It's great when a newbie shows up.

PRBuzz 03-14-2010 12:02 PM

Suet cakes disappearing rapidly with the starlings/grackles now having returned.

Raven 03-14-2010 01:57 PM

new discovery
 
or observation...............

if you scroll up to my post where it says "get creative"
on the title

the picture attached shows an old birdhouse
that i had filled with black sunflower seed first
and then i cut a suet cake in half and shoved it in there
hoping to foil the wolf pack of bluejays and provide some
suet for the other birds during the blizzrd conditions that
were soon to follow. Having long been disatisfied with the cages
for putting out suet cakes because during the rainy weather
they eventually start getting covered in black mold...

this single act...(experiment) has made me re-think how
i'll provide suet in the future from here on out.

Every type of wood pecker,
nuthatch, and small bird has either leaned in or ventured inside to
get some suet cake that was completely out of the weather
and has outlasted the hanging cages by a long shot.

Chris in Mass 03-14-2010 03:45 PM

Raven, you get many Northern Flickers? I was reading that they prefer insects out of the ground.

striperman36 03-14-2010 04:04 PM

I've lost most of my flickers to friggin robins not wooded enough.
i used to see them grubbin it in my front yard.

PRBuzz 03-14-2010 04:15 PM

I've got one (some?) that frequent throughout spring/summer....they are welcome to as many grubs as one can eat! Not very wooded around here but keep seeing them. 1st of the season was a week or so ago.

striperman36 03-14-2010 04:19 PM

i did have their nesting box taken over by a saw whet owl, that was very cool. 3" hole is very prone to inflitration

Raven 03-15-2010 04:31 AM

C.I.M.
 
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Originally Posted by Chris in Mass (Post 754446)
Raven, you get many Northern Flickers? I was reading that they prefer insects out of the ground.

not at this location...

an apparent lack of lawn grubs i'd imagine
but at my last one there was always two pairs of them
and they always worked this one particular spot

My neighbor who was the owner of the land there
asked me "hey Rav....what the hell makes all these holes?"
he was completely puzzled

YELLOW SHAFTED FLICKERS
i told him
you have a grub infestation :btu:

Chris in Mass 03-15-2010 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 754554)
not at this location...

an apparent lack of lawn grubs i'd imagine
but at my last one there was always two pairs of them
and they always worked this one particular spot

My neighbor who was the owner of the land there
asked me "hey Rav....what the hell makes all these holes?"
he was completely puzzled

YELLOW SHAFTED FLICKERS
i told him
you have a grub infestation :btu:

Too funny. Their beaks look like they could do some damage. I'll have to be careful what I wish for.

Chris in Mass 03-15-2010 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 754458)
I've got one (some?) that frequent throughout spring/summer....they are welcome to as many grubs as one can eat! Not very wooded around here but keep seeing them. 1st of the season was a week or so ago.

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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 754453)
I've lost most of my flickers to friggin robins not wooded enough.
i used to see them grubbin it in my front yard.

Cool looking bird. I'll take'm over robins if I have to have grubs :hihi:

Raven 03-15-2010 04:50 AM

Flickers are very wairy
 
their call is heard from a mile away its so loud

one summer,,,i had them eating suet droppings

at the feeder zone on the ground....

having a row of those push in the ground
sheeper herder shaped black iron posts

PRBuzz 03-15-2010 05:27 AM

BTW: I treat heavily to prevent grubs in the lawn but can't get every one. I do have a very good crop of night crawlers that should be appearing any day.......

Raven 03-15-2010 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 754562)
BTW: I treat heavily to prevent grubs in the lawn but can't get every one. I do have a very good crop of night crawlers that should be appearing any day.......

my personal record for pulling them
was 320 in one hour

saltfly 03-15-2010 08:25 AM

Flock of Bluebirds in the yard this morning.The only time they're around is when the weather is Nasty.3:1 males v females.

PRBuzz 03-15-2010 10:51 AM

With 6+" rain and more falling, I think I hear the chickadees saying: "I wish I were a Bufflehead"?

JohnnyD 03-15-2010 11:45 AM

Where are you guys placing your feeders? I'd like to put mine near or on the deck, but am concerned about the squirrels.

PRBuzz 03-15-2010 11:57 AM

The squirrels will find and get to a feeder no matter where you put them! I do have one on a metal pole about 2-3 ft off the deck area.

Raven 03-15-2010 12:24 PM

i have a piece of aluminum square stock tubing that i will

use for the big one thats 8' tall ----

otherwise you need a good squirrel dog to
send them on their way.

Chris in Mass 03-17-2010 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 754641)
Where are you guys placing your feeders? I'd like to put mine near or on the deck, but am concerned about the squirrels.

If your feeder is around your railing height or lower, I would moved it at least 6' away from the railing. If Squirrels are making suicide leaps at that length, keep moving. You'll know quickly. Just experiment and buy a squirrel baffle so they won't get you from below either.

Raven 03-17-2010 05:20 AM

dust that seed with some cayene pepper- works too

when it isn't raining... birds are immune to it


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