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Sea Dangles 04-09-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1190435)
Don't worry, the documents will show that hindsight was not required.
All that was required was to listen and act.

Who is worried Bitchslappedboy?

We have the greatest president of our lifetime steering the ship back towards prosperity . Consider yourself one of the fortunate. We live in the greatest country in the world.👌
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spence 04-09-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1190438)
Who is worried Bitchslappedboy?

We have the greatest president of our lifetime steering the ship back towards prosperity .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7QoR8vMW8

Jim in CT 04-09-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1190434)
New research indicates

and his study is still waiting to be reviewed, but it makes trump
look bad, and that’s good enough. but trump isn’t supposed to say that hydroxychloroquine helps in some cases, because there hasn’t been a credible review.

so any news which might help trump, can’t be shared until
it is 100% credible. Any news that makes Trump look incompetent, is to be shared immediately.
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RIROCKHOUND 04-09-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1190440)

In one respect it is fitting, as folks here say Trump gets no respect, no respect at all.

On the other hand Trump would not drop his anchor on one of his constituents, because as Jim likes to say, it is all about the Judges..... :walk:

I did find this clip if Trump talking about his marriage though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUnlMULbFUQ

PaulS 04-09-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1190434)
New research indicates

So I guess all those people with TDS can stop claiming that Trump's closing down some travel from China prevented more deaths.
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Pete F. 04-09-2020 11:24 AM

The stupid hydroxychloroquine argument
CFR (case fatality rate) for Covid-19 is not determined yet but is believed to be between 1 and 4%.
Heart disease in some form is present in close to 50% of adult americans. Who among us doesn't know a seemingly healthy person who was killed by a heart attack?
Contradiction for hydroxychloroquine is heart disease and other issues and not all cases are apparent without testing.
Give hydroxychloroquine to 1000 patients of whom between 10 and 40 would have died from Covid-19.
How many people would need to die from side effects of hydroxychloroquine combined with heart disease to raise the CFR.
Anecdotally you would never notice the difference if it doubled the death rate, it would require a study to determine that.
Overloaded hospitals don't have time or resources to do a full workup on every suspected covid patient, they are just trying to keep them all alive.
But some would take it just because Trump* said to.

detbuch 04-09-2020 11:33 AM

A doctor has to prescribe off label medicine. Generally, it would be your primary physician who would know of any contraindications. A doctor probably wouldn't prescribe it if the patient would likely be killed by the scrip. Unless, of course, the patient is about to die anyway, in which case if the patient agreed they could give it a try. Those without serious underlying heart conditions should not suffer life threatening reactions from hydroxychloroquine .

wdmso 04-09-2020 12:03 PM

Pence Blocks Fauci, Birx from Appearing on CNN after Network Stops Airing Full White House Coronavirus Briefings

Here we go... CNN not showing the all of the dear leaders 2.5 hr mini rallies , is getting punished ....

I am interested on how this gets supported by anyone

wdmso 04-09-2020 12:11 PM

AG Barr: Media Have Been on a ‘Jihad’ to Discredit Hydroxychloroquine


Guess his job is to defend Trump

Got Stripers 04-09-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1190425)
right probably nobody would have contracted it and/or died...like the rest of the world...good grief...

What a juvenile response, not one person on this forum, on any of the left leaning media news outlets, or any state governor has even suggested that is the case, grow up.

Got Stripers 04-09-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1190438)
Who is worried Bitchslappedboy?

We have the greatest president of our lifetime steering the ship back towards prosperity . Consider yourself one of the fortunate. We live in the greatest country in the world.👌
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Just to fing bad for those that died that maybe might not have contracted it, this administrations moto is the means justify the end.

Pete F. 04-09-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1190453)
A doctor has to prescribe off label medicine. Generally, it would be your primary physician who would know of any contraindications. A doctor probably wouldn't prescribe it if the patient would likely be killed by the scrip. Unless, of course, the patient is about to die anyway, in which case if the patient agreed they could give it a try. Those without serious underlying heart conditions should not suffer life threatening reactions from hydroxychloroquine .

Your premise misses the fact that a considerable percentage of Americans do not have a primary care physician and that the population most affected by Covid-19 is the least likely to have any form of healthcare other than the emergency room. Communications with people other than the patient has also been greatly reduced during this emergency.
Hydroxychloroquine also seems to only be effective if given early in the course of treatment, not as a last resort.
Sorry no miracle there.
But feel free to be a test puppy.

Sea Dangles 04-09-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1190457)
Just to fing bad for those that died that maybe might not have contracted it, this administrations moto is the means justify the end.

I think you meant mojo
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scottw 04-09-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1190457)
Just to fing bad for those that died that maybe might not have contracted it, this administrations moto is the means justify the end.

genius...then you need to give him credit for the 2-4 million that haven't died so far too

detbuch 04-09-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1190459)
Your premise misses the fact that a considerable percentage of Americans do not have a primary care physician

Nope, didn't miss it. It's not relevant to what I said--"A doctor has to prescribe" it. Can't get it without a doctor's prescription.

and that the population most affected by Covid-19 is the least likely to have any form of healthcare other than the emergency room.

Far as I know, emergency rooms require doctors.

Communications with people other than the patient has also been greatly reduced during this emergency.

Guess some patients are out of luck. They may not have a heart condition, but if they can't tell the docs that, then they won't get the med.

Hydroxychloroquine also seems to only be effective if given early in the course of treatment, not as a last resort.

Key words in your quote="seems to be . . . effective". It also "seems" to have helped some in later course.

Sorry no miracle there.

No more of a "miracle" than social distancing.

But feel free to be a test puppy.

Feel free not to take it, and to tell all your friends, relatives, and acquaintances not to take it.

wdmso 04-11-2020 08:15 AM

Wow an attack on experts


What experts?

Trump is right a lot more than Fauci and Birx are.

If he had been wrong about any tiny detail by a factor of 10, the Fake Media would be playing the videos non-stop from now until Nov 3.

The ONLY person who has saved any lives in this mess is the President. The "experts" will end up causing tens of thousands of deaths from suicide, drug addiction, child abuse, and stress.

wdmso 04-12-2020 01:41 PM

Dr. Fauci on CNN’s Tapper Show: Earlier Mitigation Could Have Saved Lives


Now the Trump faithful at it again


Faucii is an idiot or he is a dishonest hack trying to undermine the president. Either way he needs to go.

detbuch 04-12-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1190682)
Dr. Fauci on CNN’s Tapper Show: Earlier Mitigation Could Have Saved Lives


Now the Trump faithful at it again


Faucii is an idiot or he is a dishonest hack trying to undermine the president. Either way he needs to go.

Earlier a lot of things could have saved lives. Earlier alert from China. Earlier alert from WHO which bowed to China's wishes. Fauci admitted that it was more complicated than making an earlier decision. As well, things could be worse if the ultimate decision was not made at the time it was. Good luck with the need to have the perfect decision at the perfect time.

scottw 04-12-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1190684)
Earlier a lot of things could have saved lives. .

if trump had ordered us all not to leave our homes back in november when he found out about this and ordered every american to be tested on a weekly basis ...he probably could have gotten out in front of this


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