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Pete F. 10-22-2020 12:48 PM

Hard to believe none of you have an addict among your relatives, friends or their children.
Even among Eagle Scouts
https://apnews.com/article/ce51cf7c9...ce76764f71058d
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scottw 10-22-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203592)
There are no revelations, it's been debunked a long time ago, Hunter got nothing from the Chinese.

there's a lot of new stuff...every day

Got Stripers 10-22-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1203607)
there's a lot of new stuff...every day

No sh*t the faux news generators are working very hard as they release they are running out of time to help Trump, especially when he has a critical if not fatal case of foot in mouth disease. Just wait for tonight, not that I plan on watching as I’ve cast my vote, I’m guessing Trump will no doubt implode if they kill his mic. He might actually turn from Halloween pumpkin orange to an early Valentine red.

spence 10-22-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203596)
I'm sorry, who is making that accusation? Read Hunter's bio. That's a deeply broken person, and that usually (not always) means horrible parents.

This is a profoundly ignorant thing to say.
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Jim in CT 10-22-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203603)
Hard to believe none of you have an addict among your relatives, friends or their children.
Even among Eagle Scouts
https://apnews.com/article/ce51cf7c9...ce76764f71058d
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I bet none of us have a family member who had an affair with their dead brothers widow, and then fathered a child with a stripper and refused to pay child support despite being worth millions.

We are all SHOCKED Pete, that you acted as if addiction is Hunter's only challenge, and you left out all those other Norman Rockwell-esque behaviors.

What are you afraid would happen, if you were honest for once?

wdmso 10-22-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203611)
I bet none of us have a family member who had an affair with their dead brothers widow, and then fathered a child with a stripper and refused to pay child support despite being worth millions.

We are all SHOCKED Pete, that you acted as if addiction is Hunter's only challenge, and you left out all those other Norman Rockwell-esque behaviors.

What are you afraid would happen, if you were honest for once?

2 years after his brothers death. Or why is this is an issue

Seeing you voted for Trump A POTUS whos paid porn stars to keep quiet Trump has been married three times

Nineteen women have come forward to accuse Trump of sexual harassment.

Trump's first marriage imploded on the covers of all of New York's tabloids after he brazenly took his mistress, Marla Maples, on a family vacation in Aspen along with his wife, Ivana, and attempted to hide her away until she approached Ivana and said, "I'm Marla and I love your husband. Do you?"

BUT BUT hunter go get your moral compass checked. You lost it around 2016

Got Stripers 10-22-2020 03:34 PM

Is Hunter running for President what did I miss?

wdmso 10-22-2020 03:50 PM

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Here ya go The man Republicans want Americans to believe his integrity and honesty is beyond reproach.. with regards to the Bidens is on a young women's bed in her room with his hands on his junk...

Spin that

detbuch 10-24-2020 12:42 PM

Schoolchildren unlikely to fuel coronavirus surges scientists say:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...zE?ocid=msnews

wdmso 10-25-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203716)
Schoolchildren unlikely to fuel coronavirus surges scientists say:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...zE?ocid=msnews


From. Your link


The evidence is far from conclusive, and much of the research has been tarnished by flaws in data collection and analysis.

detbuch 10-25-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203729)
From. Your link


The evidence is far from conclusive, and much of the research has been tarnished by flaws in data collection and analysis.

Very little about this virus is conclusive. And data collection flaws exist in all studies and collection efforts. The point is, there is evidence for various conclusions. And an insistence that there is some universally accepted THE science is flawed.

wdmso 10-25-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203730)
Very little about this virus is conclusive. And data collection flaws exist in all studies and collection efforts. The point is, there is evidence for various conclusions. And an insistence that there is some universally accepted THE science is flawed.

Only conservatives think the science is flawed, time and time again you and other present outliers as proof,, case in point

The bogus Steve Bannon-backed study claiming China created the coronavirus,
The study and the Chinese virologist behind it are quite popular in conservative media.



I think we can agree it isn't just going to dissapear..


What I don't understand with conservatism is they would rather do nothing because they see anything done by government is overreach

Or seeing the majority of Americans support an action their against it .. just because and just because isn't science-based

wdmso 10-25-2020 04:01 PM

Trump lying again. baselessly accused healthcare workers of inflating COVID-19 statistics for financial gain by over-classifying coronavirus deaths because “doctors get more money and hospitals get more money”—even though there is no evidence

I think this was same excuse last time numbers went up

detbuch 10-25-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203733)
Only conservatives think the science is flawed, time and time again you and other present outliers as proof

THE science? There is science that you believe is flawed. As you showed a couple of posts ago. What I have posted were not proofs. Nor meant to be. They were examples of differing opinions, by scientists, on various aspects of the whole coronavirus understanding and process.

From Wiki: "All models are wrong" is a common aphorism in statistics; it is often expanded as "All models are wrong, but some are useful". It is usually considered to be applicable to not only statistical models, but to scientific models generally. The aphorism recognizes that statistical/scientific models always fall short of the complexities of reality but can still be of use."

From https://scienceblogs.com/startswitha...ies-are-wrong: "the next time you hear about some theory, it's totally reasonable to ask, 'What overwhelming evidence do we have that this is correct?' "

Or: "scientific method the way of approaching a problem by drawing up a hypothesis based on a series of observations, and then testing the hypothesis by means of experiments designed in such a way as to support or invalidate the hypothesis. On the basis of the experimental evidence a theory is proposed to account for the initial observations. If subsequently the theory is found to be wanting in some respect, new hypotheses are sought and tested experimentally, so the process is a successive refinement which in science never leads to an absolute truth, but to a more reliable knowledge.


That there are disputes, among scientists, about aspects of the various theories regarding this virus and how to handle it and what harm may come from handling it in one way or another or about the transmissibility at different age levels, etc., shows that there is no THE science. There are different scientific opinions.


case in point The bogus Steve Bannon-backed study claiming China created the coronavirus,
The study and the Chinese virologist behind it are quite popular in conservative media.

I did see a presentation by her. Has it been proven to be wrong?

I think we can agree it isn't just going to dissapear..

Most things eventually disappear.

What I don't understand with conservatism is they would rather do nothing because they see anything done by government is overreach

This is a very extreme view of "conservatism.
I am not familiar with the notion that "conservatism," whatever you mean by that, prefers to do nothing. As for what "conservatives" prefer re this virus, as with most things, ultimately, is that the proper constitutional levels do the work, and that the federal government not be responsible for everything, and certainly the burden should not be shouldered by the President. That is not only unconstitutional, it is a recipe for disaster no matter who is President.


Or seeing the majority of Americans support an action their against it .. just because and just because isn't science-based

Your last sentence is totally incomprehensible to me.

Pete F. 10-25-2020 09:20 PM

Watching the 60 Minutes interview and struck by Trump's constant posturing how how UNFAIR everything--the media, the coronavirus--is to him.

How many people would agree with the statement, "Life has been very unfair to Donald Trump?"
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detbuch 10-25-2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203750)
Watching the 60 Minutes interview and struck by Trump's constant posturing how how UNFAIR everything--the media, the coronavirus--is to him.

The media and the coronavirus are not everything.
Although, the media probably thinks it is.


How many people would agree with the statement, "Life has been very unfair to Donald Trump?"

I would agree that this is a goofy post that, if it belongs at all, it would belong in some other thread. Of course, since you can't start threads, you turn any thread into an opportunity to inject any irrelevant anti-Trumpist remark that you're just itching to spit out.

PaulS 10-26-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203751)
I would agree that this is a goofy post that, if it belongs at all, it would belong in some other thread. Of course, since you can't start threads, you turn any thread into an opportunity to inject any irrelevant anti-Trumpist remark that you're just itching to spit out.

You ok? You seem angrier and angrier and now seem to feel the need to insult people constantly. Everything going ok in your life?

PaulS 10-26-2020 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203750)
Watching the 60 Minutes interview and struck by Trump's constant posturing how how UNFAIR everything--the media, the coronavirus--is to him.

How many people would agree with the statement, "Life has been very unfair to Donald Trump?"
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Hey he didn't sign up to be President to be asked "tough questions". Very unfair!!

Jim in CT 10-26-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203610)
This is a profoundly ignorant thing to say.
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Expected response from a thoughtless liberal.

Pete F. 10-26-2020 10:01 AM

I’d just like to have a President who isn’t scared of Lesley Stahl.
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detbuch 10-26-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203753)
You ok? You seem angrier and angrier and now seem to feel the need to insult people constantly. Everything going ok in your life?

Thanks for your sincere and heartfelt concern. Everything is OK.

detbuch 10-26-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203758)
I’d just like to have a President who isn’t scared of Lesley Stahl.
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Trump is not afraid of her.

Pete F. 10-26-2020 10:52 AM

He’s afraid of a lot.
Reminder: we still have never seen Trump’s school records, medical records, tax returns, minutes from meetings with Putin or WH visitor logs. He won’t say who he owes 400m to and he won’t submit his DNA from a case that is just one of his decades of sex crimes.
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detbuch 10-26-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203761)
He’s afraid of a lot.
Reminder: we still have never seen Trump’s school records, medical records, tax returns, minutes from meetings with Putin or WH visitor logs. He won’t say who he owes 400m to and he won’t submit his DNA from a case that is just one of his decades of sex crimes.

Maybe there's a computer with memos about all that stuff.

Jim in CT 10-26-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203761)
He’s afraid of a lot.
Reminder: we still have never seen Trump’s school records, medical records, tax returns, minutes from meetings with Putin or WH visitor logs. He won’t say who he owes 400m to and he won’t submit his DNA from a case that is just one of his decades of sex crimes.
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Is the school records a big deal? Because it sure didn't matter in 2008 and 2012 when we had a guy who refused to share his school records.

PaulS 10-26-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1203759)
Thanks for your sincere and heartfelt concern. Everything is OK.

:btu:

PaulS 10-26-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203763)
Is the school records a big deal? Because it sure didn't matter in 2008 and 2012 when we had a guy who refused to share his school records.

But you always wanted to see Obama's even though Obama never bragged about them and claimed he was #1 in his class.

Pete F. 10-26-2020 12:25 PM

Classic Whatabout.....
That’s what happens to cult members
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Jim in CT 10-26-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203765)
But you always wanted to see Obama's even though Obama never bragged about them and claimed he was #1 in his class.

I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

Got Stripers 10-26-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203767)
I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

Pete F. 10-26-2020 01:11 PM

One standard, huh?

Reminder: we still have never seen Trump’s medical records, tax returns, minutes from meetings with Putin or WH visitor logs. He won’t say who he owes 400m to and he won’t submit his DNA from a case that is just one of his decades of sex crimes.
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detbuch 10-26-2020 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203768)
You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

The rule of constitutional law for appointing SCOTUS Justices is being followed. The political "moral standard," self-serving and bordering on depravity as it pretty much has always been, seems to be intact.

PaulS 10-26-2020 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203767)
I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

So you didn't want to see Obama's but constantly would ask to see it anyways

Ok, I get it.

Jim in CT 10-26-2020 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203771)
So you didn't want to see Obama's but constantly would ask to see it anyways

Ok, I get it.

I didn't want to see it. I wanted to know why liberal hypocrites who made fun of Bush and McCain for their transcripts, didn't care that Obama refused to share his.

Going too fast for you?

Jim in CT 10-26-2020 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203768)
You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

I said 100 times, that because of the wording the GOP used with Garland, that makes them hypoicrites.

Now, can you admit that Biden is also a hypocrite on the issue? Biden came up with the 'Biden rule' where he said that Supreme Court nominations should not be made in an election year, and if a president made a nomination, the senate should block that nomination. That's exactly, precisely what the Senate Republicans did with Garland, they abided by the Biden rule.

Then in 2016, Biden flip flopped, saying an election year nomination was OK. Now hes saying its not OK. So you please tell me GS, what is Bidens position on this issue?

Answer - his position is the same as the Republican position, they will say whatever helps them in that moment. No principles.

I admitted the Senate Republicans were hypocrites. Please explain to all of us, how Biden isn't just as big a hypocrite.

Jim in CT 10-26-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203768)
Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. .

Most people didn't want Trump to be the nominee, which is why he didn't get anywhere near 50% of the votes in the primaries. Problem is, there were 100 people running who weren't Trump.

Now? No one had any idea he'd be this effective. Heck he didn't even campaign on progress in the middle east, and he's done more in a term than Biden has done in 47 years.

Tax cuts, insanely low unemployment, brought ISIS to their knees, stock market records, no questionable wars, raises for vets and improvements to their benefits, school choice, criminal justice reform, lowest minority unemployment ever, improved funding for black colleges, economic opportunity zones, and we became energy independent. And agree with him or not, he's the most pro-life president by far, of my lifetime.

Yeah, why would any Republican get behind a guy who did that in one term? What a do-nothing slacker! You sure showed me with that post, GS.

PaulS 10-26-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203773)
I didn't want to see it. I wanted to know why liberal hypocrites who made fun of Bush and McCain for their transcripts, didn't care that Obama refused to share his.

Going too fast for you?

No I understand perfectly. You didn't want to see it but asked for anyways bc it showed the Dems were hypocrites for asking for Bush's.

scottw 10-26-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203768)
You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

epic whining...

scottw 10-26-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203776)

asking for Bush's.

biden thinks he's running against bush :rotflmao:

scottw 10-26-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203769)
One standard, huh?

Reminder: we still have never seen Trump’s medical records, tax returns, minutes from meetings with Putin or WH visitor logs. He won’t say who he owes 400m to and he won’t submit his DNA from a case that is just one of his decades of sex crimes.
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I'm sure you have all of the relevant articles and information taped to the walls of your bunker...you should send pics to adam shiff :cool:


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