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wdmso 10-21-2020 08:11 PM

The fake/foreign emails told people to vote for Trump (I’ve seen them). DNI Ratcliffe (the guy who lied about prosecuting terrorism cases) said the fake emails ARE TRYING TO HURT TRUMP! This is disinformation from Ratcliffe designed to energize Trump’s base!

From a tweet



Shockingly this rushed DNI news conference came 30 min after Obamas speech

Got Stripers 10-21-2020 08:33 PM

It is amazing how grown adults can so easily be sold these conspiracy theories. Today for me was a perfect example, getting paired with a couple cool aid drunken give me another conspiracy theory golfers. Of course it’s the last f*cking thing I want to hear on the golf course, like there isn’t enough politics. I had to bite my tongue listening to these two clowns absolutely convinced Covid is a political hoax and it will be gone after the November election. I can’t wait for these two weeks and this entire year to be behind us.

scottw 10-22-2020 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203553)
It is amazing how grown adults can so easily be sold these conspiracy theories. Today for me was a perfect example, getting paired with a couple cool aid drunken give me another conspiracy theory golfers. Of course it’s the last f*cking thing I want to hear on the golf course, like there isn’t enough politics. I had to bite my tongue listening to these two clowns absolutely convinced Covid is a political hoax and it will be gone after the November election. I can’t wait for these two weeks and this entire year to be behind us.

I'm sure you had a lot to educate them about...:hihi:

Got Stripers 10-22-2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1203557)
I'm sure you had a lot to educate them about...:hihi:

Absolutely not when your that stupid it’s a lost cause. They would be the same type of idiots sitting shoulder to shoulder at a Trump super spreader rally. I say let evolution take care of that.

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203553)
It is amazing how grown adults can so easily be sold these conspiracy theories. .

Like the idea that the Russians are behind Hunter's laptop?

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203542)
I thought kids were off limits isn't that what you used to say constantly with the Palin kids?
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Innocent kids who didn't ask to be a part of what their parents do, should be left out. If adult kids choose to get involved, they are fair game for fair reporting. That means Hunter, and it means Trumps older kids. Not sure how it can be explained simpler than that.

Plus, he said that Hunter wouldn't be stupid enough to drop off his laptop in Delaware. So his past is relevant as to whether or not it he can be called rational, and clearly he can't.

Hunter is a deeply broken person who nonetheless obviously made millions off his dads influence. I'm not saying it's a crime, I'm certainly not saying Joe Biden is the first or last one to do it. I'm saying it happened, and we shouldn't reflexively bury the story because Joe is a democrat. If you make a huge deal about Trump profiting, as many of you have, it's a wee bit hypocritical to ignore this.

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203543)
If he was a republican you'd praise his initiative for getting paid.

You are desperate. And full of crap. I don't praise trump for potentially profiting inappropriately. I said all along, 100 times, he should have divested completely from his prior businesses.

Good luck finding hypocrisy there.

The TDS gang hare has made a big deal about every single time there was a chance Trump profited from his office. You've expressed a lot of concern about that. But you stick your head in the sand when the allegations are made about Biden.

You are the hypocrite. Not me.

Try. Making. That . Wrong.

You keep trying to make me out to be someone who can never criticize Trump. That makes you either a liar or an illiterate.

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1203545)
Is Hunter running for President what did I miss?

The one who used his influence to enrich his son, is.

The Trump haters here have spent a lot of time expressing concern over the years, that the Trump family is personally cashing in on Trumps office. As a group, it's been a pretty big concern.

Yet when the same allegation is made against the Bidens, you stick your heads in the sand and circle the wagons.

If it's wrong when Trump does it, why isn't it wrong when Biden did it?

wdmso 10-22-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203562)
Like the idea that the Russians are behind Hunter's laptop?

I think he was referring to adults like you who think the laptop and its magical appearance is legit

Questions The DNI could figure out those emails sent to voter were from Iran in a week. Yet this laptop been in FBI possession for how long?? and all thats out there is conjecture and all the (SOURCES) have only sopke and sent info to FOX :kewl:

PaulS 10-22-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203563)
Innocent kids who didn't ask to be a part of what their parents do, should be left out. If adult kids choose to get involved, they are fair game for fair reporting. That means Hunter, and it means Trumps older kids. Not sure how it can be explained simpler than that.

Plus, he said that Hunter wouldn't be stupid enough to drop off his laptop in Delaware. So his past is relevant as to whether or not it he can be called rational, and clearly he can't.

Hunter is a deeply broken person who nonetheless obviously made millions off his dads influence. I'm not saying it's a crime, I'm certainly not saying Joe Biden is the first or last one to do it. I'm saying it happened, and we shouldn't reflexively bury the story because Joe is a democrat. If you make a huge deal about Trump profiting, as many of you have, it's a wee bit hypocritical to ignore this.

You're a hypocrite. I couldn't even recognize Hunter and don't think I've ever seen a quote from him.

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203566)
I think he was referring to adults like you who think the laptop and its magical appearance is legit

Questions The DNI could figure out those emails sent to voter were from Iran in a week. Yet this laptop been in FBI possession for how long?? and all thats out there is conjecture and all the (SOURCES) have only sopke and sent info to FOX :kewl:

Again, I posted a video of a Biden spokeswoman, saying explicitly that the Biden campaign isn't denying the authenticity of the emails. You are saying things that even the Biden campaign isn't saying.

PaulS 10-22-2020 08:13 AM

And for everyone who quotes the FBI statement on the computer it would be nice to see the whole statement.


By not disputing accusations leveled by Democrats and some former intelligence officials that the laptop's late-season reveal could be another form of foreign election interference, the FBI gave tacit support to the idea that the emails in question are genuine. But the bureau's letter to Johnson was not that explicit, noting the criticism leveled by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz over Comey's actions in 2016.

The FBI "can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any ongoing investigation or persons or entities under investigation, including to Members of Congress," Tuesday's letter from Assistant Director Jill Tyson said. "As the Inspector General firmly reminded the Department and the FBI in recent years, this policy is designed to preserve the integrity of all Justice Department investigations and the Department's ability to effectively administer justice without political or other undue outside influences

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203567)
You're a hypocrite. I couldn't even recognize Hunter and don't think I've ever seen a quote from him.

Jim: If adult children choose to get involved, it's fair to accurately cover them. That holds true for Hunter Biden and for Trumps kids.

Paul: You're a hypocrite.

That makes all kinds of sense Paul.

"I couldn't even recognize Hunter"

He's too busy flying on Air Force II with Dad to shake down foreign oligarchs.

"don't think I've ever seen a quote from him"

He's not all that bright or articulate.

You're saying that because Hunter isn't on TV, that means hes a private citizen disconnected from his dads scrutiny?

How do you explain the fact that of all the countries on the globe, Hunter gets a hugely lucrative board spot for which he had no practical experience, in the one country where Joe was our nation's point man? You can tell us that's a coincidence?

"Of all the gin joints in all the world, she has to walk into mine..."

scottw 10-22-2020 08:23 AM

this is REALLY bad for biden inc.

scottw 10-22-2020 08:26 AM

sorry...I meant..."the big guy"

wdmso 10-22-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203564)
You are desperate. And full of crap. I don't praise trump for potentially profiting inappropriately. I said all along, 100 times, he should have divested completely from his prior businesses.

Good luck finding hypocrisy there.

The TDS gang hare has made a big deal about every single time there was a chance Trump profited from his office. You've expressed a lot of concern about that. But you stick your head in the sand when the allegations are made about Biden.

You are the hypocrite. Not me.

Try. Making. That . Wrong.

You keep trying to make me out to be someone who can never criticize Trump. That makes you either a liar or an illiterate.

Your criticism carry no weight and have no credibility. When it comes to Trump , any criticism you present is layered with excuse

Here an example
big deal about every single time there was a chance Trump profited from his office

Jim its not a chance its happening Trump has made 500 visits to his properties while in office

Again what law did hunter Break if no meeting happened ( Shouldn't be hard VP has a historic record of where and who he meets with ) and what was bought seeing the VP doesn't do policy and has no power to do so .. oh wait this has already be looked into and the bipartisan committee found no evidence of wrong doing

So in. A normal world not your conspiracies laden world , an email would come 1st maybe several with times and places and expectations of the one providing the meeting and the expectations of the one requesting the meeting..

Then there would be an email or phone arrangement, the who what where and when details

Lastly would be the actual meeting and then the change in policy

JIM even if the emails are legit , no meetings ever happen no policy was charged

the extent to which Hunter Biden's role on Burisma's board affected U.S. policy toward Ukraine is not clear. " guess they couldn't commit to use we couldn't find any evidence. PS stolen emails ain't evidence id love to see the chain of custody of that laptop and these supposed emails

wdmso 10-22-2020 08:56 AM

Hunter Biden paid nonresident women who were nationals of Russia or other Eastern European countries and who appear to be linked to an “Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”


So the Senate report can find hookers. But not meetings or no influence sold for favors


But but these emails are a game changer ya ��

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1203579)
sorry...I meant..."the big guy"

c'mon, man!

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203580)
Your criticism carry no weight and have no credibility. When it comes to Trump , any criticism you present is layered with excuse

Here an example
big deal about every single time there was a chance Trump profited from his office

Jim its not a chance its happening Trump has made 500 visits to his properties while in office

Again what law did hunter Break if no meeting happened ( Shouldn't be hard VP has a historic record of where and who he meets with ) and what was bought seeing the VP doesn't do policy and has no power to do so .. oh wait this has already be looked into and the bipartisan committee found no evidence of wrong doing

So in. A normal world not your conspiracies laden world , an email would come 1st maybe several with times and places and expectations of the one providing the meeting and the expectations of the one requesting the meeting..

Then there would be an email or phone arrangement, the who what where and when details

Lastly would be the actual meeting and then the change in policy

JIM even if the emails are legit , no meetings ever happen no policy was charged

the extent to which Hunter Biden's role on Burisma's board affected U.S. policy toward Ukraine is not clear. " guess they couldn't commit to use we couldn't find any evidence. PS stolen emails ain't evidence id love to see the chain of custody of that laptop and these supposed emails

"Trump has made 500 visits to his properties while in office"

I don't defend it. If it's illegal, throw him out and arrest him. But I fit's wrong for his family to profit from his holding elected office, isn't it also wrong for Biden's family to profit from him holding elected office?

Jim in CT 10-22-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203581)

But but these emails are a game changer ya ��

I never said that. I assume most of them at that level, have no morals and will look to get rich if they can. And I keep saying Trump gets creamed in November.

But the emails are yet another example of the endless hypocrisy that exists on both sides, but the majority of the media doesn't cover things up to help republicans.

Pete F. 10-22-2020 09:22 AM

“Trump is collapsing and his allies of convenience are panicked. Now is when you turn a victory into a rout. We are all tired, but the other side isn’t just tired. They are frightened and confused. Because they are losing the fight...Victory is near.”
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wdmso 10-22-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203583)
"Trump has made 500 visits to his properties while in office"

I don't defend it. If it's illegal, throw him out and arrest him. But I fit's wrong for his family to profit from his holding elected office, isn't it also wrong for Biden's family to profit from him holding elected office?

There you go again
I don't defend it. If it's illegal, throw him out and arrest him


Why don't you afford biden the same courtesy

TRUMP using his properties for gain is not remotely the same as what you suggest Hunter has done.. it still amazes me your abilities to twist 2 different issues into one suggesting they are. Equivalent :sleeps:

scottw 10-22-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1203475)
Donald Trump—auditioning for a job in which he must stand up to Vladimir Putin, Recep Erdogan, Abdel el-Sisi, Kim Jong Un, Mohammed bin Salman, Mohammad bin Zayed, ISIS and enemies of the US around the world—has just announced that Lesley Stahl vanquished him with tough questions
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is biden going to need a 5 day nap prior to every time he has to stand up to a foreign leader... if he happens to get elected?....asking for the nation

detbuch 10-22-2020 07:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiiSq7toqlQ

scottw 10-22-2020 10:38 PM

^^^...wow...not even an unnamed anonymous source speaking on conditions of anonymity....an actual partner of biden inc. :hihi:...hope he can avoid getting hillaried


wait....I thought this was all russian disinformation? he doesn't sound russian





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spence 10-23-2020 05:38 AM

Wait was this the dubious plot for Biden to sell pillows and sheets?

I see even the Wall Street Journal has debunked the above Trump scam.
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RIROCKHOUND 10-23-2020 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203634)
Wait was this the dubious plot for Biden to sell pillows and sheets?

I see even the Wall Street Journal has debunked the above Trump scam.
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Simpler than that. If there was any ‘there’ the GOP lapdogs in the Senate would be running full bore with investigations heading in to the election.
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PaulS 10-23-2020 07:49 AM

I think Trump won the debate last night because he didn't have a temper tantrum. I wonder if they promised him extra ice cream if he didn't lose his temper too bad or mocked Biden's stuttering.
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wdmso 10-23-2020 08:18 AM

Bobulinski, who will be a guest of President Trump at the debate

Hows that work? Witness tampering? Any credibility just flew out the window.

And only State Tv is running this and only Fox has been given suposed documents ? Why?

And dont for get hand in pants Rudy
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Jim in CT 10-23-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203642)
I think Trump won the debate last night because he didn't have a temper tantrum. I wonder if they promised him extra ice cream if he didn't lose his temper too bad or mocked Biden's stuttering.
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Looks to me like he needed to win big and didn't quite do that. I can't see a path to victory for him. But I said the same thing in 2016. So who knows.

Have a good weekend Paul.

Jim in CT 10-23-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1203643)
Bobulinski, who will be a guest of President Trump at the debate

Hows that work? Witness tampering? Any credibility just flew out the window.

And only State Tv is running this and only Fox has been given suposed documents ? Why?
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The democrats invited Alysa Milano to sit in the front row of the gallery during the Kavanaugh hearings, Wayne. It's a juvenile, shock tactic to be sure, but obviously it doesn't imply witness tampering.

"And only State Tv is running this and only Fox has been given suposed documents ? "

Is that the case? Or are no other networks asking for anything, because they have zero interest in covering the story?

spence 10-23-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203645)
The democrats invited Alysa Milano to sit in the front row of the gallery during the Kavanaugh hearings, Wayne. It's a juvenile, shock tactic to be sure, but obviously it doesn't imply witness tampering.

"And only State Tv is running this and only Fox has been given suposed documents ? "

Is that the case? Or are no other networks asking for anything, because they have zero interest in covering the story?

I know at least the NYT has asked and been denied.

Just watched the Rudy scene. Even if it is edited for maximum impact it’s still pretty bad.
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Jim in CT 10-23-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203646)
I know at least the NYT has asked and been denied.

Just watched the Rudy scene. Even if it is edited for maximum impact it’s still pretty bad.
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They asked who? For what? I thought they saw enough files to conclude it was all a Russian hoax?

Rudy is a sad shadow of what he used to be, no question.

The guy who came forward yesterday is a formal naval officer who has repeatedly donated to democrats. It's not Sean Hannity making the accusation.

I don't know if any laws were broken, I assume most people (both parties) at this level will look to line their pockets where they can, it's too much temptation. To deny the likelihood that the Bidens did that, reveals blind partisan loyalty.

Spence, you really believe that of all the places on Earth where Hunter could have been given a cushy board position that he had no qualifications for, it's a coincidence that he ended up in Ukraine, where his father was our country's point man? You're saying that's just a coincidence? And all these other charges can't be true?

PaulS 10-23-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203644)
Looks to me like he needed to win big and didn't quite do that. I can't see a path to victory for him. But I said the same thing in 2016. So who knows.

Have a good weekend Paul.

I actually think the format was better for Trump yesterday. Thank you for the weekend wishes. I'm actually in Newport. You have a good weekend also.
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Jim in CT 10-23-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1203648)
I actually think the format was better for Trump yesterday. Thank you for the weekend wishes. I'm actually in Newport. You have a good weekend also.
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I didn't watch a second, I hate the way Trump talks. He couldn't have done worse than the first. And interesting to have a debate after 35 million people have already voted.

Newport a great place to spend a warm fall weekend. Enjoy.

Nebe 10-23-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203649)
I didn't watch a second, I hate the way Trump talks. He couldn't have done worse than the first. And interesting to have a debate after 35 million people have already voted.

Newport a great place to spend a warm fall weekend. Enjoy.

I watched the debate last night. It was I believe the first time I have seen a glimmer of presidential behavior from the chitgibbon
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Jim in CT 10-23-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1203652)
I watched the debate last night. It was I believe the first time I have seen a glimmer of presidential behavior from the chitgibbon
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I thought his last State Of The Union was by far the best I've seen him. It makes my skin crawl to watch him sometimes.

spence 10-23-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203647)
The guy who came forward yesterday is a formal naval officer who has repeatedly donated to democrats. It's not Sean Hannity making the accusation.

It sounds like he's just miffed because Hunter tried to ink a deal without him.

Quote:

I don't know if any laws were broken, I assume most people (both parties) at this level will look to line their pockets where they can, it's too much temptation. To deny the likelihood that the Bidens did that, reveals blind partisan loyalty.
I assume you mean your own?

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Spence, you really believe that of all the places on Earth where Hunter could have been given a cushy board position that he had no qualifications for, it's a coincidence that he ended up in Ukraine, where his father was our country's point man? You're saying that's just a coincidence? And all these other charges can't be true?
Nobody is denying that Burisma was trying to hire prominent public figures to it's board. The white elephant in the room is that there's no evidence of anything illegal or unethical other than some bad optics by Hunter.

Jim in CT 10-23-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1203654)
I assume you mean your own?


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Between the 2 of us, who has a history of praising and criticizing both sides? And which one praises their side 100% of the time?

spence 10-23-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1203655)
Between the 2 of us, who has a history of praising and criticizing both sides? And which one praises their side 100% of the time?

I don't have a "side" I'm an American.


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