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Jim in CT 10-04-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215192)
Conservatives haven't found a way to legislate that yet and plenty of the people they promote aren't great examples.

If a man had five children by three different baby mamas, would that be ok?

Or Rep. Cawthorn who now calls for holy war: “It’s time for us to stand up and declare boldly that, as men & women of faith, we have a duty to stand against tyranny .. It is time for the American Christian church to come out of the shadows .. (against) people who hate the things we believe in.” (He's got a couple of closets also)

who cares if elected republicans aren’t good fathers? does ANYONE look to politicians to see how they should behave?

“stand against tyranny” is a declaration of war?

that’s not a stretch.

Pete, try saying this 100 times…stock options are usually taxed as ordinary income…stock
options are usually taxed as ordinary income…

i got options when i worked at travelers and the hartford. ordinary income.

keep saying it.
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wdmso 10-04-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215196)
who cares if elected republicans aren’t good fathers? does ANYONE look to politicians to see how they should behave?

“stand against tyranny” is a declaration of war?

that’s not a stretch.

Pete, try saying this 100 times…stock options are usually taxed as ordinary income…stock
options are usually taxed as ordinary income…

i got options when i worked at travelers and the hartford. ordinary income.

keep saying it.
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Republicans aren’t good at anything but saying saying no and are all generally dishonest and crazy hypocritical.. and please spare us the both sides do it .. Nonesense

And willingness to tank the economy for political gain by refusing to raise the Debt ceiling.. a game that moderates and independents see as reckless and hypocritical and most of the country . Only the MAGA base see it as owning the libs
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Pete F. 10-04-2021 06:14 PM

You already stated that you require nothing moral about your leaders, political or other.

Steve Bannon’s ‘shock troops.’ Madison Cawthorn’s ‘holy war.’ Schools requiring the teaching of only ‘patriotic education.’ ‘Alternative facts’ We are well down the rabbit hole towards a fascist America. None of this is normal.

Your boss the almost billionaire, takes stock options because they are just like cash, OK
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wdmso 10-04-2021 06:19 PM

Pandora Papers show how tax havens are part of the global inequity problem

The massive leak shows wealthy individuals from all over the world parking money in Caribbean tax havens, hiding assets in foreign trusts and shielding their wealth in opaque Panamanian corporations

While prominent Americans largely escaped the investigation’s gaze, the United States itself did not, as researchers found that the US now serves as an overseas tax haven for many.


Experts told NPR that the US’ low tax rates (compared to other developed nations) contributed to the findings, which indicated that some Americans simply found no need to stash money abroad; others were found to be likely using companies whose finances were not revealed in the latest batch of documents.

And some Americans still use the same methods to hide assets when under investigation or facing lawsuits,
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Jim in CT 10-04-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215198)
Republicans aren’t good at anything but saying saying no and are all generally dishonest and crazy hypocritical.. and please spare us the both sides do it .. Nonesense

And willingness to tank the economy for political gain by refusing to raise the Debt ceiling.. a game that moderates and independents see as reckless and hypocritical and most of the country . Only the MAGA base see it as owning the libs
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"Republicans aren’t good at anything but saying saying no and are all generally dishonest and crazy hypocritical.. and please spare us the both sides do it"

Stupid. Conservatives are actually a little more charitable than liberals, the data makes that crystal clear. Tell the unborn the GOP isn't good for anything...And which states are losing population, which states are gaining population? Which states have the largest debt? I'd like to see you attempt to answer that.

"And willingness to tank the economy for political gain by refusing to raise the Debt ceiling"

That's pure hypocrisy. But sorry to say it, both sides only care about the dangers of debt when the other party controls the white house.

Jim in CT 10-04-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215200)
Pandora Papers show how tax havens are part of the global inequity problem

The massive leak shows wealthy individuals from all over the world parking money in Caribbean tax havens, hiding assets in foreign trusts and shielding their wealth in opaque Panamanian corporations

While prominent Americans largely escaped the investigation’s gaze, the United States itself did not, as researchers found that the US now serves as an overseas tax haven for many.


Experts told NPR that the US’ low tax rates (compared to other developed nations) contributed to the findings, which indicated that some Americans simply found no need to stash money abroad; others were found to be likely using companies whose finances were not revealed in the latest batch of documents.

And some Americans still use the same methods to hide assets when under investigation or facing lawsuits,
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"some Americans simply found no need to stash money abroad;"

Would you be better off if more Americans stashed their money abroad? How would that help you, or poor people, exactly?

scottw 10-05-2021 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215203)
"some Americans simply found no need to stash money abroad;"

Would you be better off if more Americans stashed their money abroad? How would that help you, or poor people, exactly?

if not for the guy stashing money in panama or wherever...the guy working at McDonalds would be filthy rich....

amazing how obsessed some are with other people's money, assets, success.....

if only we could institute global communism to combat this global inequity...

gotta give the chinese credit for coming up with the idea to spread global communism through a pandemic by creating a nasty virus...pretty brilliant and working fabulously

scottw 10-05-2021 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1215183)

and your "wampum" remark is insulting to my Native American heritage.

idiot

scottw 10-05-2021 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215199)

We are well down the rabbit hole towards a fascist America. None of this is normal.

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who is more fascist?....the people that want everyone locked down, injected, masked and requiring papers everywhere they go and unquestioned obedience to the federal government and their directives, want to know every time 600 dollars enters or leaves your bank account, collude with big tech and the media and corporations censor information and to push government narratives and propoganda ....or the people who don't?

scottw 10-05-2021 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215198)

Republicans aren’t good at anything but saying saying no and are all generally dishonest and crazy hypocritical.. and please spare us the both sides do it .. Nonesense


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:rotf2:

we are so fortunate to be led by moral, honest democrats who only do what is in our best interest...true public servants :smash:

Pete F. 10-05-2021 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215207)
who is more fascist?....the people that want everyone locked down, injected, masked and requiring papers everywhere they go and unquestioned obedience to the federal government and their directives, want to know every time 600 dollars enters or leaves your bank account, collude with big tech and the media and corporations censor information and to push government narratives and propoganda ....or the people who don't?

What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom

What we got: FOX/GOP fighting against masks and vaccines, causing the need for longer restrictions and more mandates, so they can keep their followers angry about Dems attacking their freedom

Steve Bannon said the other morning he will have 20K "shock troops" on standby. "We control this country," he added. "We have to start acting like it."

Throughout the federal deployment to Portland, officers from the Federal Protective Services requested assistance from the Department of Homeland Security’s Homeland Identities Targeting and Exploitation Center to search protesters’ cellphones. That team found the searches were illegal, and resisted pressure from senior Homeland Security leaders to assist FPS.
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Got Stripers 10-05-2021 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215205)
if not for the guy stashing money in panama or wherever...the guy working at McDonalds would be filthy rich....

amazing how obsessed some are with other people's money, assets, success.....

if only we could institute global communism to combat this global inequity...

gotta give the chinese credit for coming up with the idea to spread global communism through a pandemic by creating a nasty virus...pretty brilliant and working fabulously

Obsessed not, but if I were still working and paying high taxes, I’d be a bit pissed someone with millions or billions is paying almost nothing.

Got Stripers 10-05-2021 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215208)
:rotf2:

we are so fortunate to be led by moral, honest democrats who only do what is in our best interest...true public servants :smash:

That’s rich, Trump was as we all know always on the moral high ground and never thinking about what’s good for him and his family.:lm:

scottw 10-05-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1215213)
That’s rich, Trump was as we all know always on the moral high ground and never thinking about what’s good for him and his family.:lm:

pretty sure no one here has ever suggested he was on the high moral ground and not thinking about what's good for him and his family...

keep arguing with yourself :laugha:

scottw 10-05-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1215212)

but if I were still working and paying high taxes
so you think taxes are too high?


I’d be a bit pissed someone with millions or billions is paying almost nothing.

name one....define almost nothing

scottw 10-05-2021 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215210)

What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom

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:eek:

scottw 10-05-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215210)

What we got: FOX/GOP fighting against masks and vaccines, causing the need for longer restrictions and more mandates,

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they are working world wide apparently....

wdmso 10-05-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215207)
who is more fascist?....the people that want everyone locked down, injected, masked and requiring papers everywhere they go and unquestioned obedience to the federal government and their directives, want to know every time 600 dollars enters or leaves your bank account, collude with big tech and the media and corporations censor information and to push government narratives and propoganda ....or the people who don't?


Wow nice rant Q

Deposits or withdrawalsOver $10,000 Are reported not 600
Please get informed
The only unquestionably obedience I’ve seen has been The Trump MAGA cult. The guy you didn’t vote for but support with out question

And back to the press and FB is the enemy of the people colluding only with Dems.. so much for Parler

Parler’s Popularity Plummets As Data Reveals Little Appetite For Returning ‘Free Speech’ App Favored By Conservatives Forbes

Parler active users 2.3 mil active
Twitter 206 million snap chat 347 million TikTok has reached 1 billion

Conservatives are a dying breed unable to accept they are in the minority in America being saved by the electoral college and how the Senator are appointed . And Americans are paying attention to their obstructing ways .

But I thought conservatives love Israel they have a vaccine passport
They must be fascists
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The Dad Fisherman 10-05-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215217)
:eek:

Bans + Mandates = Not Freedom
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Jim in CT 10-05-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215205)
if not for the guy stashing money in panama or wherever...the guy working at McDonalds would be filthy rich....

amazing how obsessed some are with other people's money, assets, success.....

if only we could institute global communism to combat this global inequity...

gotta give the chinese credit for coming up with the idea to spread global communism through a pandemic by creating a nasty virus...pretty brilliant and working fabulously

"if not for the guy stashing money in panama or wherever...the guy working at McDonalds would be filthy rich...."

How do you debate someone who thinks it's bad that people are incentivized to park their cash in our country, as opposed to storing it in Grand Cayman?

when you spend your whole life in the public sector, and all you do is listen without question to MSNBC, I guess you conclude that all business is sinister, and that we don't want Pablo Escobar's money here, and no one who works in the private sector is any better, therefore we shouldn't want any of it.

"amazing how obsessed some are with other people's money, assets, success...."

It's so much easier to demonize the successful, than it is to just admit it's more likely they worked harder, made better decisions, took more chances, etc...and of course sometimes they're just luckier, and sometimes they're unethical. But not much of the time.

"gotta give the chinese credit for coming up with the idea to spread global communism through a pandemic by creating a nasty virus."

Aided by gain-of-research function that was almost certainly funded by Fauci.

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1215212)
Obsessed not, but if I were still working and paying high taxes, I’d be a bit pissed someone with millions or billions is paying almost nothing.

The top 1% have 20% of the total income, and pay 40% of the total federal income tax, as of 2018.

"paying almost nothing**"

** - in which 1% of the population shouldering 40% of the tax burden, is "almost nothing".

Obama had deomcrats in control of congress, as Biden does now. If the tax system is so unfair, why don't they change it? Obama had a fillibuster-proof democrat majority in the senate, and a large democrat majority in the house, for some of his first term. He could have fixed this in a day.

Its all BS to distract the herd from the truth. If you're unhappy with your lot in life, the problem is much more likely to be in the mirror, than it is to be some guy on the cover of Forbes.

scottw 10-05-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215219)

Wow nice rant Q THANKS!

Deposits or withdrawalsOver $10,000

Are reported not 600

Please get informed

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it's coming...apparently you are not informed:wave:

Yes, under Biden's proposal the IRS could have more access to your bank accounts
If you have at least $600 in your account, the IRS could end up monitoring your spending. It’s part of President Biden's proposed tax reform and is raising concerns.

NBC IRS would track all bank transactions over $600 under Biden plan
by Kenneth McGrathTuesday, September 28th 2021

MOBILE COUNTY, Ala. (WPMI) —

The administration wants the Internal Revenue Service to monitor every transaction you make of $600 or more, that’s a big change from the current 10,000 threshold. Meanwhile, Bloomberg.com reports that House Ways & Means Chairman Richard Neal said he and other democratic leaders are planning to set a threshold higher than the $600 proposed by the Biden administration.

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215210)
What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom

What we got: FOX/GOP fighting against masks and vaccines, causing the need for longer restrictions and more mandates, so they can keep their followers angry about Dems attacking their freedom

Steve Bannon said the other morning he will have 20K "shock troops" on standby. "We control this country," he added. "We have to start acting like it."

Throughout the federal deployment to Portland, officers from the Federal Protective Services requested assistance from the Department of Homeland Security’s Homeland Identities Targeting and Exploitation Center to search protesters’ cellphones. That team found the searches were illegal, and resisted pressure from senior Homeland Security leaders to assist FPS.
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"What we got: FOX/GOP fighting against masks and vaccines,"

So why are some of the largest unvaccinated populations, blacks and those with PhD's? Those people take their marching orders from Foxnews?

"What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom"

Tell that to Connecticut College students, who have a 100% vaccination rate, and are in a complete lockdown.

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215219)

Conservatives are a dying breed unable to accept they are in the minority in America being saved by the electoral college and how the Senator are appointed . And Americans are paying attention to their obstructing ways .


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What do you base this on? What support for that crap could you possibly provide?

If the electoral college is the only thing saving the GOP, please explain why Republicans currently have a majority of governorships and state legislatures? Lemme guess, it’s all because of racist gerrymandering.

When Obama left office as recently as 2016, the Democrats held fewer elected offices (federal, state, local) than at any time sine Reconstruction. That's mathematical fact. Back then, did you say the democrats were on the way out?

scottw 10-05-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215224)

So why are some of the largest unvaccinated populations, blacks and those with PhD's?

don't forget police, fire and healthcare workers...and teachers

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215226)
don't forget police, fire and healthcare workers...and teachers

what reasons are healthcare workers giving, for not getting vaccinated? i haven’t seen any facts in why…
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detbuch 10-05-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215210)
What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom

War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

spence 10-05-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215223)
The administration wants the Internal Revenue Service to monitor every transaction you make of $600 or more, that’s a big change from the current 10,000 threshold.

Not true.

scottw 10-05-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1215229)
Not true.

I think might be right...it's actually even worse

Pete F. 10-05-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215224)
"What we got: FOX/GOP fighting against masks and vaccines,"

So why are some of the largest unvaccinated populations, blacks and those with PhD's? Those people take their marching orders from Foxnews?

Are you trying to say Foxnews should not be listened to by anyone who is a minority or educated?


"What we could have: masks+vaccination=freedom"

Tell that to Connecticut College students, who have a 100% vaccination rate, and are in a complete lockdown.

Lying again, I see
Connecticut College is not locked down, is following the Covid Protocol.
https://www.conncoll.edu/campus-life...-19-dashboard/

Got Stripers 10-05-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215222)
The top 1% have 20% of the total income, and pay 40% of the total federal income tax, as of 2018.

"paying almost nothing**"

** - in which 1% of the population shouldering 40% of the tax burden, is "almost nothing".

Obama had deomcrats in control of congress, as Biden does now. If the tax system is so unfair, why don't they change it? Obama had a fillibuster-proof democrat majority in the senate, and a large democrat majority in the house, for some of his first term. He could have fixed this in a day.

Its all BS to distract the herd from the truth. If you're unhappy with your lot in life, the problem is much more likely to be in the mirror, than it is to be some guy on the cover of Forbes.

So they pay less than 4% and your paying 35%, oh that seems fair right?

Pete F. 10-05-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1215228)
War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

You and Bannon are Leninists, oops that's true

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215232)
Lying again, I see
Connecticut College is not locked down, is following the Covid Protocol.
https://www.conncoll.edu/campus-life...-19-dashboard/

I'm saying blacks and college professors are a very democratic group, so they aren't refusing the vaccine because foxnews tells them to. Too fast for you?

"Connecticut College is not locked down"

OK, YOU SAID masks + vaccines = freedom.

No in person classrooms, kids can only be in their dorm with roomates (no one else), cafeterias closed, gym closed, sports and clubs cancelled. For $80,000 a year.

If that's your idea of freedom, then you can embrace that all you want, but most of us will take a hard pass, thanks.

The Dad Fisherman 10-05-2021 12:35 PM

You're missing the point Jim, it's not a lock-down if you call it "Covid Protocols"
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Jim in CT 10-05-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1215237)
You're missing the point Jim, it's not a lock-down if you call it "Covid Protocols"
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Silly me.

I have 2 friends who mortgaged their house to send their daughter to that school (and I have two brothers who graduated from there). Liberal like you can't believe. She can't go to class, eat with anyone, have anyone in her room except her roommate, can't go to anyone else's room, can't join a club or go to a sporting event.

Every single kid and employee is vaccinated, and they're testing everyone weekly. So naturally, there are some positive test cases, but no one is sick. The school is freaking out over the number of test cases, maybe someone told them that vaccinated people can't get covid, which isn't remotely true.

We need to stop trying to manage the number of positive test cases (which likely can't be stopped with this virus), and concentrate on minimizing the number of people who get really sick.

Hope you're doing well.

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1215237)
You're missing the point Jim, it's not a lock-down if you call it "Covid Protocols"
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Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp", it was a re-education center.

Jim in CT 10-05-2021 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215232)
Lying again, I see
Connecticut College is not locked down, is following the Covid Protocol.
https://www.conncoll.edu/campus-life...-19-dashboard/

"Are you trying to say Foxnews should not be listened to by anyone who is a minority or educated?"

Oh, we all know that the best thing for blacks would be to listen to what thoughtful conservatives say on Foxnews. Unfortunately, they don't.

The last thing democrats want, is for poor folks to hear someone rationally explain that the path to upward economic mobility doesn't lie with demonizing rich people, but rather lies in strong family and hard work and good decision-making. Democrats desperately want to hide that message from blacks, because if more blacks embraced that, they wouldn't feel the need to vote for democrats.

detbuch 10-05-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215235)
You and Bannon are Leninists, oops that's true

Not quite right--it's spelled lennonists. Here's an old fashioned precursor of the Alt Right, Norwegian white supremacist ditty just for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK99-mLWkjA

Got Stripers 10-05-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215239)
Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp", it was a re-education center.

If only 100,00 died and these mandates were in play I’d agree it’s extreme and unwarranted, but it’s now over 700,000 dead and it’s not over, so whine all you want. Hey don’t vaccinate your kids Home school them, drive your hog in mass without a helmet, screw paying the evil government taxes to fund the new order, light up a cigarette in your office and have all the freedom you want.
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Pete F. 10-05-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1215241)
Not quite right--it's spelled lennonists. Here's an old fashioned precursor of the Alt Right, Norwegian white supremacist ditty just for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK99-mLWkjA

The American Right’s “21st-century Leninism”

The dismissal of Steve Bannon — leading intellectual of the US alt-right — before the first anniversary of Trump’s presidency comes as false relief. In fact, Bannon’s White House adventure was only one stage of a long journey — the migration of revolutionary-populist language, tactics, and strategies from the left to the right. Bannon has reportedly said: “I’m a Leninist. Lenin … wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” But what does this Leninism consist of? In a complex democracy, Leninism can only maintain itself as a populism of the long revolution. For decades, social science has insisted that due to entrenched institutions, no third party can succeed in the US. This very “scientific fact” has enabled a smug self-certainty among liberal leftists and autonomists/anarchists (who find therein further justification for, respectively, their subservience to neoliberalism and evasion of organized politics). The American far right has subverted this “fact.” It was as if they were following directions from a 21st-century, condensed version of Lenin’s (1902) What is to Be Done?, starting with the sentence: “If you can’t build a party, paralyze the party; circumvent it; and take it over.” They did all three simultaneously. Our imaginary, revised What is to Be Done? would then continue: “Before you become the de jure leaders of the party, make sure all of its institutions are crippled.” If the Tea Party (a populist grouping among Republicans) had not already paralyzed the Republican establishment, the latter would have been able to stop Trump’s rise.

American right-wing populism is Leninism under democratic conditions. Unlike the Russian Bolsheviks who had to avoid almost all above-ground society and politics, American rightists embrace society. The revised What is to Be Done? would therefore say: “Organize in every cell of society. Don’t underestimate any venue of organization and politics, even if (especially if) it seems to belong to the enemy camp.” The right learned not to leave education, science, and culture to the monopoly of the left. “Appropriate the organizational terrain and ideology of your enemy, to the extent possible. Dismantle whatever you fail to appropriate.” Starting with Andrew Breitbart himself, the founder of the “alt-right” media outlet, the right read the Frankfurt School; it made healthcare a big deal; and with the rise of Trump and Bannon, it promises jobs and infrastructure.

Today the Leninist Right cannot ignore the existence of other potentially populist forces on the social map, however meager they may be. The 21st-century What is to Be Done? would thus conclude with the sentence: “If certain trenches of the enemy appear to be beyond the reach of any of these tactics, provoke its occupants into immature and illegitimate action.” As the alt-right descended on the University of California, Berkeley and other pockets of residual left-wing influence in early 2017, liberals came to their defense (in the name of “free speech”) when a far left without a mass base attacked them. Liberal enthusiasm for “free speech” diminished slightly after an alt-rightist drove a truck into an anti-racist crowd in Charlottesville, but the Washington Post still emphasized far left violence and the alt-right’s freedoms when the latter returned to Berkeley in September 2017. Many birds are killed with one stone: the enemy is divided; its confusion, lack of will, and weakness are exposed; its reputation is tarnished; and the far right itself is further galvanized.

Since “the state” today is more complex than any 20th-century definition could capture, “smashing” it involves much less dramatic action than in 1917, at least for now. We still don’t know what the right holds in store for the time when the existing institutions are completely incapacitated, but we may soon find out. Right after his resignation, Steve Bannon declared “war” on his enemies, adding gleefully that he is returning to his “weapons” (meaning electronic media). A populist revolution in a land of entrenched (if decaying) liberalism is an uphill battle, and is bound to suffer setbacks. But the show is far from over.


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