so the hedge fund managers in Greenwich, we’re successful because CTs high taxes gave them good public services

CT has wealthy residents. The state is beyond bankrupt, and therefore can’t afford to do anything for
anybody. Paul, ask someone who has worked for DCF for 30 years, about all the services that have been cut.

we spend tax dollars to
enrich unions. everyone else falls through the cracks. take a stroll
through Bridgeport some day and tel me about how much better off morbid, thanks to our high taxes.

The state of CT has wealthy residents. The state itself, is circling the drain. Many liberal states are in horrible financial shape. You can’t help anyone, when you’re broke.
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The richest states are primarily run Democrats. The poorest states are primarily run by Republicans. The richest counties are primarily in Democratic states. The poorest counties are primarily and Republican states.
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House Republicans have introduced the Leaker Accountability Act, making Supreme Court leaks punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

They've not introduced a single bill combatting the epidemic of gun violence and mass shootings.
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correction…the states with the wealthiest residents are run by democrats

CT is a state made up of very wealthy individuals. The state itself, is bankrupt, drowning in debt, cutting vital services to the needy to enrich their union masters.

Do you understand the difference between a state government, and the people who live in the state?

TN has no state income tax. Yet they have massive surpluses, so
much so, that tuition at community colleges is free to state residents.

CT has insane income taxes ( and many other taxes that TN doesn’t have), yet we will
never, ever be able to offer such a perk.




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and yet the average salary in CT is much higher, there is less crime and a better education system than Tenn.

I thought I heard that CT was broke?

Gov. Ned Lamont disclosed Connecticut’s projected fiscal reserves exceed $7 billion.

better education system, if you can afford it. You always leave that part out.

and to the lousy cities in TN, is that the fault of the state? or the fault of the people who run the cities?

My brother lived in Franklin, which is every bit as nice as, say, Avon CT. Insane public schools, beautiful little town. No income tax. And free tuition at the states community colleges.

So can you please point me to a town in CT, that offers a similar quality of life as Franklin TN, with no state income tax, and free tuition at community colleges?

I’ll wait.


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another interesting fact - GDP per capita.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itories_by_GDP

The richest (and best educated) states are primarily run by Democrats. The poorest states are primarily run by Republicans. The richest counties are primarily in Democratic states. The poorest counties are primarily in Republican states.

You keep saying the same thing "blue states have wealthier citizens on average". I keep saying I agree with you, so I have no idea why you keep saying the same ting, I don't know who or what youre responding to.

I've asked you many times what liberalism has done to make those citizens more successful, and you keep responding with "blue states are wealthier."

We both know that means you can't think of a reason why liberalism results in wealth. Because it doesn't. If it did, the state governments of the blue states would be in great shape, and they aren't.

And for the second time, when wealthy americans leaned right, you all said that was a bad thing, a sign of what was wrong with the GOP. Now that wealthy people are liberals, all of a sudden it's a good thing to attract the wealthy.

TN has very poor towns. But the state (meaning the state government) literally has more money than they know what to do with, so they offer free community college tuition.

CT has a ton of very wealthy residents, yet the state can't pay its bills.

Lemme guess your response..."CT is wealthier than TN".

except it's not. The residents of CT are far wealthier than the residents of TN. The state of CT is a lot less wealthy than the state of TN. Despite taking far more money from its citizenry, the state of CT is in far worse shape.

Funny you won't comment on that.

a state is made up of its citizens. A state is not a person. I could care less if you think the "wealth" of a state is based on how much $ the state has in the bank. I'm more concerned w/how healthy the citizens are or how long they live or their access to good mental health services, or any other fact that impacts people and their lives on a day to day basis. When you look at those the R led states fall down.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wesleyw...h=6c03851965b9

https://www.ct.edu/PACT?gclid=EAIaIQ...SAAEgJxvfD_BwE

https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticu...2020-semester/


WTNH) — Connecticut State Colleges and Universities announced Thursday that the Board of Regents for Higher Education will again be funding a free community college program for the fall 2021 semester.

BOR has allocated $3-million in one-time funding to launch the Pledge to Advance Connecticut (PACT).

“PACT is Connecticut’s tuition and fee-free community college program. The BOR’s action is expected to cover PACT scholarships for eligible students for the fall 2020 semester, but additional state funding would be required for the program to continue in the spring,” CSCU said Thursday.

To qualify, you must be a first-time, full-time student who has graduated from a Connecticut high school. Candidates must fill out a FAFSA and apply and register by July 15.

so what does this say to you about our state government.

we have some of the highest tax rates in the nation, applied to some of the highest incomes in the nation. That necessarily means, we have the state government a ton of money. They spent all that.

Then we got the casinos, which in good years,, gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the state. And they spent all
that.

Then because that wasn’t enough, the state borrowed tens of thousands of dollars for every person living here, and they spent all that.

And what do we have to show for it? What can i get here, that I can’t get in a nice suburb of NH, or in a well run place like Franklin TN?

Nothing. I get nothing from the state, that i wouldn’t get if i lived in a other state with lower taxes.

What i get, is a public university in CT that’s way more expensive than what’s available in other places with lower taxes.

If you’re a multi millionaire, CT is a better place. And probably if you want state welfare, Ct is a better place.

But for everyone in between, please tell me what CT offers, that you can’t get ( cheaper) in a well run suburb of NH or TN or SC?

What’s our value proposition? Abortions?
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This article is especially interesting in that one party seems to be against free tuition - any idea which party that was?

https://www.ctpost.com/local/article...n-12720739.php

we can’t begin to afford it. TN can, that have big surpluses most years. we dont.

What part of “we’re broke”, exactly, don’t CT democrats understand?
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I’m also no fan of the CT GOP.

i commented directly on your article. Any chance you can do the same?

Here, our u funded debt at the end of 2021 was estimated at about 100 billion. That’s 33,333 for every human being i. the state ( assuming we all pay taxes, which we don’t.). That’s an additional $133,333 for every family if 4, on top of current taxes.

What’s your take on that?

https://ctexaminer.com/2021/12/14/co...se-to-covered/
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You were big on touting free tuition in TN. I showed that we have free tuition in CT and now you're dismissing it along with many other stats that show people in CT lead better lives than people in TN.

You win.

TN has more than enough surplus funds, to pay for it. As I showed, we don't.

I'm not dismissing free tuition in CT. I'm saying we can't come close to affording it, and you didn't offer a syllable to suggest otherwise.

TN has no state income tax, it offers free tuition at its community colleges, and this year it is projecting a 3.4 billion surplus.

https://www.timesnews.net/news/state...6f8c55532.html

CT, I think, is projecting a very big surplus for this year. But we have unfunded debt of $100 billion.

I get that you're not going to comment on anything that criticizes CT or praises anything about TN. We can be done.

I know what's coming in this state. Do you?

Speaking of political demagoguery

Powerful words from Combined Law Enforcement Associations of Texas:

"There has been a great deal of false and misleading information in the aftermath of this tragedy. Some of the information came from the very highest levels of government and law enforcement. Sources that Texans once saw as iron-clad and completely reliable have now been proven false. This false information has exacerbated ill-informed speculation which has, in turn, created a hotbed of unreliability when it comes to finding the truth. The truth we all can trust.
For this reason, we believe that a strong independent investigation by the US Department of Justice with assistance from the FBI will discover what really happened, thus helping agencies everywhere to understand how best to stop a similar compounded tragedy from happening again."
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Texas officials: Teacher didn’t leave door propped open before massacre

Seems Easier to blame a grooming woke teacher then taking the time and finding the actual Truth .. 1st?

Not following why this shooting narrative has become so confused?

Who or what were they trying to protect? And Why?
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There’s nothing False about the timeline & the reports of all the cell phone calls made while the cops stood around doing nothing while this nutcase continued to slaughter kids.
You want to fix the problem with school shootings, end gun free zones & give schools the same protection government buildings get.






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DeSantis Vetoes Funds for Rays Facility After Team Comments on Gun Violence

Ron freedom of speech is for ME! Not for thee


but Ron has no comments himself on the shootings shocking



And people call that leadership :faga:

Simple, just need more guns

Ohio school districts could begin arming employees as soon as this fall under legislation approved by Republican lawmakers and set to be signed by GOP Gov. Mike DeWine.

Will there be background/vetting procedures in place before Ohio starts arming art teachers? Will Ohio’s teachers be trained in close quarters shooting? Will they get continuous training throughout their lifetime to keep skills up? If not, will their guns be removed?

Will there be gun safes in every room in Ohio? Who will maintain these guns to keep them in working order? Who's responsible for these guns if a child touches it? How much state-sponsored ammunition will be offered to each teacher? Will each school in Ohio hire an armorer?

In Buffalo, a trained guard with a pistol lost the battle and his life against an assailant with an AR15 & body armor. The Tree of Life shooter wounded 4 Pittsburgh cops, including 2 SWAT members.

If you don't have the mindset to kill, a weapon does nothing.
Do you really want trained killers teaching children?

Will Ohio’s GOP raise taxes to pay for all these new guns & training?

Of course not.

I thought teachers were indoctrinating the youth of America?

Now the GOP wants to arm them
Teachers have to use personal fund for paper and pens for their classes

But now we’re going to find money to arm them , and pay for the training ? And the liability insurance?

And it’s voluntary.. it all equals pointless
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Care to guess how many mass shootings and deaths since this thread started, one a day for the entire year, but it’s all mental health and hardening school.

It’s just easier for them to call everyone crazy. Then to admit there’s a gun availability problem in America

Most states don’t require lost or stolen guns to be reported . And it’s near impossible to trace them back to owners because the GOP will not allow electronic records for gun purchases

Federal law prohibits the federal government from collecting firearm sales records in a central repository

Aka a searchable data base

Because the gun lobby claimed it’s a step toward confiscation.. seems their against making it easy for law enforcement to trace weapons used in crimes

In a 21st century searchable database that can be set up to only provide certain data..
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Five mass shootings over the weekend, but any bets on if Mitch let’s anything happen to make changes most Americans want.

Americans want sensible changes that will work. Not radical
changes that have been tried already and failed, but which will make liberals feel good about themselves

just take politics out of it and solve the damn problem, like we all solve problems every day. But they ( both sides) can’t be honest or take the politics out of it.

They don’t want to solve the problem, they want to win elections. Those are two very different objectives

Term limits would go a long way to solve it.
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i admit there’s a gun availability problem.

i also admit that the 400 million guns out there, are the reason why prospective gun laws have failed
miserably to prevent gun crime in the past.

Yet the liberal solution is always an exact repeat of didn’t work i. chicago and DC.

Is gun availability the only part of this wayne? i’ve said gun control is a part of this, so has john.

Is there anything else wrong, that’s worth addressing? or is it just the inanimate object?

is there anything sickly about our culture? anything at all?

You’re just a parrot.
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The United States is the 128th safest country in the world according to the Global Peace Index. The US’s safety rank has decreased each year since 2016. A large factor in determining the safety index of countries is their murder rate.

Too many cities have worse murder rates than Chicago and DC.

St. Louis, MO (69.4)
Baltimore, MD (51.1)
New Orleans, LA (40.6)
Detroit, MI (39.7)
Cleveland, OH (33.7)
Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
Kansas City, MO (31.2)
Memphis, TN (27.1)
Newark, NJ (25.6)
Chicago, IL (24)
Cincinnati, OH (23.8)
Philadelphia, PA (20.2)
Milwaukee, WI (20.0)
Tulsa, OK (18.6)
Pittsburgh, PA (18.4)
Indianapolis, IN (17.7)
Louisville, KY (17.5)
Oakland, CA (17.1)
Washington D.C. (17.0)
Atlanta, GA (16.7)

Police budgets are at an all-time high and climbing. But clearance rates—the rate at which cops make an arrest related to a crime—are at historic, all-time lows. Cops nationwide have stopped “solving” crimes. Only 50% of murders even lead to an arrest.

Maybe military style policing isn’t working.
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I never said Chicago was the most dangerous city. It’s relevant to bring up Chicago because they tried extremely strict gun control
there, and yet they have 500 homicides a year.

As always, even you know you can’t respond to what i said, so you respond to something no one ever said.

Show me the data to suggest that gun control will work here in the US, and i can be persuaded.

Out of curiosity, look at the list of cities with the highest murder rates. What percentage of those cities have been run by liberals for decades? And what percentage have been run by conservatives for decades?

Does the answer to those questions, lead you to any conclusions at all?

We need to do things very differently in our cities. What we’re currently doing, isn’t working . Do you disagree?


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How far away is Chicago from Indiana, a place with almost no gun control? Or DC from Virginia?

So the governance of the state and country make no difference?

The USA safety rating has decreased yearly since 2016 yet you squawk like it’s a new thing and impossible to solve.

The NRA has spent millions on politicians over the past thirty years, succeeding in removing the successful assault weapons ban.
Since 2004 when there were 400,000 in existence the number has grown to more than 20 million.

Trumplican politicians pose in campaign ads, with weapons and people have pictures of their families with their weapons.
And we wonder why we have mass shootings in this country.

You claim the issue is in Cities, you mean like Uvalde?

You parrot all the talking points, consistently and claim that any counterpoint is parroting.

It’s not impossible, following the Uvalde, Texas school shooting, Canada is expanding background checks, banning 1,500 types of military-style assault weapons, starting a buyback program, and requiring rifle magazines to be permanently altered to never hold more than 5 rounds.
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SO you're not going to come close to answering my question, shocker.

"How far away is Chicago from Indiana, a place with almost no gun control? Or DC from Virginia?"

You're proving my point. Like Chicago and DC, every place in America is surrounded by guns. Which is why prospective gun laws have little impact. How will it be different this time?

"You claim the issue is in Cities, you mean like Uvalde?"

If we're talking about garden variety gun violence, the issue is primarily cities, yes. I don't see any small suburbs on your list of places with the highest murder rates. Do you?

"You parrot all the talking points"

Nope. I've said 100 times I support common sense gun control that hasn't been shown to be a dismal failure already.

That was a good post by you. You dodged my question completely, and told 3/4 demonstrably false lies.

"Canada is expanding background checks"

Totally support that.

"banning 1,500 types of military-style assault weapons"

We did that here, they let it lapse because it didn't work.

"requiring rifle magazines to be permanently altered to never hold more than 5 rounds."

These are clearly aimed at mass shootings, and might help. They will do absolutely nothing to put a dent in the carnage happening in our cities, which claims way more lives., Why is your side so much more concerned about these rare mass shootings, than about what happens every single day in our cities?

Answer - it's about winning lections, not about saving lives.

Rudy Guilianni showed us how to save lives, he paved the way when he was mayor of NY. But those policies don't help liberals win elections, so better to do away with them and live with the spike in murders.

The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that affects Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.
But yet you parrot that it’s the liberal cities that are the issue.

If it didn’t work why were there only 400 thousand when the ban was removed and 20 Million and growing now?
Controlling the availability and distribution of guns nationwide will make a difference, Americans don’t have anymore need for guns than other countries.
Federal law requires magazine limitation for duck hunting—no more than 3 rounds in a shotgun. Why? It's not fair to ducks.

Yet when we try to limit magazines to 10 rounds in Congress, we’re blocked. If we can limit magazines to protect ducks, we ought to be able to do the same to protect people.
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"In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden."

Why is state control more important than city control? Other than the fact that it makes the point you desperately want to make...

"Controlling the availability and distribution of guns nationwide will make a difference,"

Not a big difference, not when there are already 400 million guns out there, many in the hands of violent criminals. We've had nationwide gun control laws and assault weapons bans.


"Federal law requires magazine limitation for duck hunting—no more than 3 rounds in a shotgun. Why? It's not fair to ducks."

I'm not disagreeing with you. But why not address all aspects of this, as opposed to limiting the discussion to topics that are political winners for the left?

Assault rifle bans that expire don’t help, limits on the sale or an outright ban, along with the rounds these semi automatic weapons can fire, background checks, waiting periods for certain sales, closing the loop holes in private sales and MUCH better vetting of anyone buying would help. Buy back programs, red flag laws, obviously mental health programs are all needed. Certainly politicians actually voting the way the MAJORITY of their constituents want would be a huge help, but they won’t it means donor money goes elsewhere and they loose the power. The pro life mantra doesn’t play well when you ignore the thousands of children loosing their futures in these mass shootings.

Except the right isn't ignoring mass shootings, they just focus on different aspects of the solution. The left focuses on gun control ands ignores everything else. The right ignores gun control and focuses on everything else. Somewhere in the middle, is the solution.

It's the left that absolutely ignores everyday urban gun violence, which costs far more lives. They ignore it because the issue doesn't help them win elections.

So when I rebut your usual Chicago DC trope it becomes my “desperate point” because gun crime in Trumplican strongholds is moot

Nobody is saying to only look at one cause except the right, who’s claiming that the second amendment means more than “a well regulated militia” and how dare you threaten my ability to have as many guns as I want without restrictions, etc.
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Where’s that well regulated militia when people need them?

Seems Uvalde Police Enlist Bikers to Block Reporters Covering Funerals

Bikers to the rescue where have we seen this before

Let me help

Trump Warns: It Would Be ‘Very Bad’ if My Police, Biker Gang Fans Decided to Get ‘Tough’ on My Opponents
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What are you worrying about?

In a new @CBSNewsPoll, 72% of the nation believes mass shootings are preventable, however, there is a partisan split with 44% of Trumplicans saying mass shootings are something we have to accept.

Wearing masks will warp kids for life, but going to school in a jail with armed guards and drills on what to do if there’s an active shooter won’t have any effect.

Since 1999, when the Republican Party overturned common sense gun safety measures, every parent has seen our schools turned into fortresses with armed guards at many. Still doesn’t keep our kids safe. does it?
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Leading cause of deaths in US kids is guns, not drugs, not car accidents and it gets worse every year, 12 a day but Mitch will make it right