Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1200017)

if it’s an open carry state ( i don’t know if it is), then seeing a guy with a gun isn’t cause to fear for your
life. not unless he was threatening them.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1199995)

I saw the reporter from the dallycaller on tucker Carlson funny Tucker never told his audience that he was the guys BOSS? And he wasn't to clear what happened until he watched the film .. saying I didn't know I was that close. being in the moment and watching it are not they same .


Jim that's what lawyers get paid to do present their clients in the best light.. seems you and the specialists are taking what they are says as the only actual facts

The videos only show 1 part of the overall event , you forget there are eye witnesses
And other evidence none of us have seen

I still dont understand if you pick a fight and you get scared or start loosing said fight

Then it becomes self defense ... so jim are you suggesting there are 3 separate self defense claims .. or do all 3 shooting s = 1 self defense claim

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199998)

Gee let me just ask a stupid question, if you go into a highly volatile situation like that armed with an AR or for that matter any long rifle, aren’t you putting yourself into harms way and asking for trouble. I still don’t condone these f*ck heads playing right into a Trumps campaign playbook buy destroying property, but if you go looking for trouble your probably going to find it.

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1200021)

so protesters or rioters. cant reasonably have a reason to fear for their life in that moment. From a guy with a Gun. Because they may or may not be breaking the law. And the guy with the gun was there to bring order so hes cool?.

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist (Post 1200165)

Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1200180)

Read the charging document. Note he's also been charged for possession of a weapon by someone UNDER EIGHTEEN.

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...74cde9.pdf.pdf

The charging document doesn't indicate "that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?" as TheSpecialist asked. The charge indicates that others confronted or chased or threatened Rittenhouse before Kyle responded.

Looks like he was pointing the gun at people so they tried to disarm him then all hell broke loose. Nothing like the presence of firearms to help escalate tense situations.

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1200184)

The charge doesn't indicate that the hell broke loose because Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at people. The only time it recounts Kyle pointing his gun is when he raised it to shoot Rosenbaum who was chasing him. And that was after Kyle's first shot was into the ground.

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1200184)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist View Post
Could you please show me either a news story, video, or a witness statement, saying that Kyle Rittenhouse either started a fight, or was the aggressor?



The charge doesn't indicate that the hell broke loose because Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at people. The only time it recounts Kyle pointing his gun is when he raised it to shoot Rosenbaum who was chasing him. And that was after Kyle's first shot was into the ground.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1200194)

I didn't say definitively, it sounds like there was an exchange of some words and the first person killed felt threatened so they tried to scare the defendant off then try and disarm them. It's a crappy situation but one that wouldn't have happened had the defendant been illegally armed.

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist (Post 1200196)

Lets say you and your significant other are walking down the street after dinner on the town. Someone starts a verbal altercation with you, you guys keep moving on, but that person chases after you, he assaults you or your SO, are you in the right to defend yourself?

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1200212)

Different situations. It will be interesting if any new video comes out or people have credible testimony that shines some light on exactly how this got started. Kid screwed up big time and now two people are dead. Not sure if his self defense argument is going to hold, especially when the possession of the weapon is illegal. It's not like he was just walking down the street with his SO after dinner.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1200253)

there is no evidence that the kid went after anyone....I don't think he should have been there but I don't think the rioters should have been there burning down the place either

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1200254)

Interviewees have stated he was yelling at people and pointing his weapon at them. There are other reports of verbal threats to shoot protesters. I don't condone the vandalism but it's really not the responsibility of the wannabe militia to take matters into their own hands. Deescalate and have a serious discussion and the protests will peter out. Unfortunately this isn't possible under Trump and it's only going to get worse as he keeps cheering them on and stirring the culture war pot.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1200270)

Tweety has no interest in descalating the conflict
As claimed by Kellyanne Conway, this conflict is to Tweety’s advantage
Luckily Americans are not that gullible
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1200278)

American leaders have always stood together to denounce overreaches by people inside and outside the United States
Tweety has failed to do that on numerous occasions
He’s the person elected that was never imagined by the founding fathers
And he’s your hero

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1200280)

A “Loser” is someone who supported Trump in 2016. A “Sucker” is someone who still does.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device