There are reports that the Colts balls where checked at halftime and none of them lost any pressure. Not trying to be a wiseguy Jet fan but are those reports true?

They were checked and found to be legal. That doesn't mean they lost pressure.

Trial by media, I'm sure it's the same way you'd want to be treated....

You fu(k.

The pats are going to light up the sea hag's next wknd.

Again two words for ya.


Suck it!
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Well, let's get all this straightened out here. We've taken care of the physics; we all agree that about .5 psi would occur due to cold. How about the issue of legal responsibility? As far as I know, the regulations state that the balls are to be at a pressure of 12.5-13.5 psi AT THE TIME OF THE GAME, not two hours
before when the refs check them. That means that, REGARDLESS of whatever the Patriots did with the balls before the game, they are LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE
for ensuring that the balls are at the right pressure at the TIME OF THE GAME. This means that is UP TO THE PATRIOTS to check them AT THE TIME OF THE
GAME to make sure they are in compliance. If they are not, then they have to notify the officials and make appropriate re-inflation measures with the officials.

The Patriots have used their procedures for quite a while, and have had ample opportunities to check what they did prior to game time to see what corrections
needed to be made. The fact that 11 out of 12 balls were under-inflated indicates that they DID NOT perform any appropriate checking at game time. Consequently, while they may not have been deliberately deflated, nonetheless the team would still be guilty of negligence, EVEN IF EVERYTHING BELICHICK SAID IS TRUE. Does this make sense, folks?

john harbaugh- don't know the rule book do i? try this one on for size tb and bb.

Doesn't make sense, the officials don't give the balls back to the team until just before game time.

Doesn't matter. The Patriots are legally responsible for making sure
that WHATEVER they do, the balls are right at GAME TIME. Period.

And I'm I'm sure adding or removing air from the ball after they are inspected is illegal.
I'm sure we've all played with footballs in the cold weather. They can lose air and still actually feel harder
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...unless of course, the refs approve it. The point is, the Pats were
responsible for ensuring that the balls were right at game time. They
had AMPLE opportunities to check their standard procedures to make
sure they got it right. If they didn't do it, that's negligence. Right, any
lawyers out there?

I believe it's the refs job to add or remove air at that point
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This is not a legal issue,it is a rule book issue. Is it possible the Colts balls were overinflated and then lost psi due to the weather? The balls are checked 2 hours prior to kickoff for compliance,after that,whatever happens due to conditions other than being manipulated by humans is OK.
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At this point I don't believe any "reports" or "sources" that are not attributable - especially on the internet. I was watching a media specialist who said if you believe anything you read online and its not attributable - shame on you. Until the game referee/official comes on camera saying "I did check the balls with a gauge", I'll have to assume he didn't. Funny how the Patriots got into trouble during spy gate with a single camera but now with hundreds of cameras all over the stadium there hasn't been any suspicious activity reported - yet.

Once the REFS inspect it is Refs responsibilty not the Pats...Refs inspect the balls it is their signature and everyone believes everything is fine......:)

Latest report is the balls were about a pound short....wait for commish report....:)

when does it become defamation of charater

they leaked it to Mortensen
therefore, they started it

I think IMO Harbaugh bitched about or put a bug in the Colts ear about it, then it went from there.

And Bill did his job trying to find out how they came in under inflated, he came up with a plausible reason and I believe him. I have no reason not to believe him. With all the crap they endure, there is no possible chance anyone with the team did anything to alter the balls once they went to the ref. If there was any evidence instead of just accusations, then it would have been settled by now.

I didn't say that the 12th ball was the correct pressure, just that it was reported that 11 of the 12 were under pressure. The 12 could have been under pressure as well but seeing how it was in possession of a biased team, they can't include that one as under inflated. Is that more clear? I see things the way I see them because I wear a Pats t shirt and care about the team enough to defend them. They don't deserve all this bashing and pig piling and being accused of cheating just because of their awesomeness and success :D

I laughed and thought some of it was funny

but it wasn't spot on

It makes perfect sense to me but you forget that they are not in possession of the balls before the game and are not allowed to check the air pressure, that is up the the refs. I would say that if there was a sting operation going on, then the NFL should have done that. I suppose at the next game maybe they will recheck them moments before gametime, or maybe they will prepare them long enough beforehand to get them tacky and allow time for equilibrium to take it's course now that they are aware of that. Does that make any sense?

Are the Seahawk players going to have to give blood samples pre-game to make certain they are not on drugs? where is this going to end? never I guess

LOOOOONG past that Raven

Its not when you are guilty......
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Fixed it for you:bshake:

Pats picked up their biggest juicer. That is why he couldn't play the first 4 games Bruce.
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Seahawks?? Who are they?

biggest? as in height?

As in suspended for ped use
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Monday morning and Deflategate is still the NFL topic of conversation throughout the country The week of the game instead of the game.
Can't be good !
Like I said.
This will be their legacy.
Greatest run in NFL history, But......
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Blame Indy !
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So what you are saying is that the Raiders showed the Pats how to cheat? But not how to lose?

I think people are going to realize just how stupid this entire hype cycle really was.

I know against Seattle is not going to happen, but boy wouldn't a big blow out win shut everyone up.

Even if the balls were checked by NASA every play the haters would still be claiming we cheated...

There was talk of ticket prices for this game being low, and the general interest in the Pats saturated around the country due to their long term success, and the Seahawks far from a favorite team with their scandals. It makes you wonder how much of this talk is the media trying to create a hot story to artificially inflate some interest in less than fully inflated Super Bowl week.

Could it have been the one they took from the back-up supply to replace the one that got picked? Are they required to have 12 balls in the game supply?

Players who make a monumental play--first career TD, first 100 yard rushing game, first 1000 yard season, DBs who make picks, and so on, almost always take the game ball of the play to the sideline for posterity. That's probably why teams are required to have a back-up supply. I've been watching football since 1961 and can't ever recall a situation where a ball was so damaged in play that it couldn't be used.

It would certainly make sense that the backup balls if to be used by either team could/would be inflated or even prepped differently.

The more the Pats dig in the more I believe them. There's no way they could be sure evidence of tampering didn't exist if it indeed did.

John.
I said from the start I thought this is silly.
The Raiders for 40 years prided themselves on playing outside the rules and if others down like it tough #^&#^&#^&#^&.
The Pats just the oposit.
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I wonder if the locker room attendant acted alone
Hmmm
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No, it was this crazy situation where the Pats balls deflated due to the temp and the Colts didn't. Likely there was a polar vortex caused by Bellychicks ego or Gisele's thigh gap that caused a lower temperature around the Patriots balls. The attendant is just a scapegoat for mother nature.

There's a perfectly good explanation for that. The Colts balls were inflated to the high end of the NFL regulation psi.
From what I understand they are looking at the 6 to 10 minute window from when the balls removed from the referees locker room and taken to the field.
Nothing will come out of this .
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This is getting really old. WTF America ?
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