Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168829)

Hmmmm, I assume this is acceptable.
President Trump has promised to cure cancer, eradicate AIDS, and ensure that American astronauts land on Mars if he wins a second term. “We will push onward with new medical frontiers. We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases—including cancer and others and we’re getting closer all the time,” Trump said to a cheering crowd at his rally in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday night. “We will eradicate AIDS in America once and for all and we’re very close. We will lay the foundation for landing American astronauts on the surface of Mars.”
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168845)

again, it would be nice to have a set of rules
applied consistently to presidents of both parties. both sides engage in this hypocrisy, but Trump has taken that hypocrisy to new heights.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168855)

did trump explicitly promise a cure, only on the condition that he get elected, bryan? if he did, well, we already knew he was a jerk. if he didn’t, dont compare him to someone who did.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168862)

Yes, though probably he was joking again.
SAD, it's acceptable if it's your hero. (that you don't really like)

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168864)

let’s back up. when i said biden said some awful things, you said it was “bizarre” of me to believe he said them. so i posted the videos showing he said exactly what i claimed he said. exactly.

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

obama separated
kids from parents at the birder. No one said anything. Trump expands in that, and he gets accused of setting up concentration camps, if being this monster. Why was it acceptable for obama to do
it?

this is the hypocrisy and derangement. pointing that out, doesn’t make me a trump sympathizer. i hate trump, but i think criticism should
be fair and accurate. not tinfoil
hat wearing gibberish.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168864)

did you ever respond to that? is it still bizarre for
me to claim Biden said those things?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168875)

The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168877)

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168879)

this is dumb

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168875)

The difference between Trump and almost any other politician is quantity. No politician has been perfect in beliefs or gaffe free to my knowledge, but none have broken the envelope in the way Trump has. Apparently he is acceptable to you. SAD

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168877)

What is bizarre is your insistence on claiming moral parity when there is none.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168883)

You dodged my question completely. Was it "bizarre" for me to claim Biden said those things? Or is there proof that he actually said them? Do you stand my the insult you threw at me?

So you agree that past presidents, some of whom you support, did the same things Trump does. He just des it more often.

I completely, 100% agree with that statement. So stop acting as if the others didn't do the same exact thing, with your approval.

"Apparently he is acceptable to you"

His behavior is unacceptable to me, for the 1,000th time. But like with my CEO, I can put up with him being a jerk, if he makes my life better. Trump is making my life better IMO, so if he wants to be a world-class jerk along the way, that's better than a well-mannered idiot who can't do anything right. Isn't it?

It's also worth pointing out that his opponent in the 2016 election, also took lying, greed, and corruption to new heights. She wasn't as crass or as vulgar as Trump, but a disgusting person nonetheless.

Character wasn't on the ballot in 2016.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168887)

Sorry if you are insulted, I assumed you were happy that you found the backup for your claim and your ego didn't need my approval.

Everyone can screw up, the difference between a moral person and in immoral one is knowing that you did, apologizing if needed.
Still waiting to see Trump do that once.

Trump is a congenital liar and that is unacceptable to me.

Not many CEOs i've worked for or known have been jerks, a few but they were not the most successful ones. One was comparable in narcissism to Trump, he committed suicide eventually.
I'm sorry that you have to work for a jerk and perhaps you should make your feelings known, I'm sure he'd appreciate the criticism and comparison.

Hillary lost the electoral college years ago, get over it.

Hopefully there will be a worthy candidate and character will count in this election.

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1168932)

Jim. Just saw a clip of Trump at a campaign rally Monday Stating were going to fix cancer ... spin that.

At the president's official re-election kickoff event on Tuesday, Don Jr. mocked Joe Biden over his cancer moonshot. And the crowd went wild. !!!! And a mere few hours later President Trump said 'we' will come up with a cure for many diseases, including cancer.

What reality does his supporters live in ??
I
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168939)

here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

However, from what i saw, Trump didn’t say that curing cancer was
contingent to his getting elected. he didn’t say we’d cure cancer, only if he was elected. Really? As usual, you try and use semantics to excuse Trump and demonize others to justify Trump's behavior. Typical Obergruppensplainer behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7zOgxQ5E38

i liked the cancer moonshot initiative. setting lofty goals
and sharing hope, is good. telling people that they will live only if you get elected, is bad.

Here’s the reality I live in. Trump signed the “right to try” act, which gives sick people who haven’t been helped
by established treatments, the right to try experimental treatment not yet approved by the FDA. no one before trump bothered to sign what is such an obvious thing. He signed it, and it’s irrefutable fact that people are alive today because of it. Obama or bush could easily have signed that, they chose not to.

trump absolutely deserves credit for that. is he a jerk? hell yes. did he do something no one else bothered to do, to save lives? hell, yes.

what do you think?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168939)

here’s my spin, i saw it too. i don’t like when biden makes promises he can’t keep, i dont like it when Trump does it. I hold them both to the same standard. Anything hypocritical about that?

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168945)

Ask your physician about Right to Try and get his opinion.

Talk about giving false hope.

Or do a little research outside of the far right media, follow the money. I bet you'll end up at CTCA.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168948)

trumplican always defending trump and his base!!!#$#@!!!

trump didn't sound as dumb as biden and that has them perplexed...also, trump fills stadiums biden can't draw flies :jester:




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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168951)

i still don’t see how trump could beat biden,

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168955)

you said the same thing about hillary


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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168950)

“we’ll come up with a cure for cancer and we’re getting closer all
the time”. what trump said. not how i would have liked him to say it.

“if i’m elected...i promise we’ll cure cancer”. what biden said. there are semantic differences, you’re right!

they’re both disgusting people.

gotta get back to puttin y’all back in chains! which you denied he said, then never ever commented on it after i showed the video, because unlike me, you are physically incapable of criticizing politicians whose policies you like.
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