Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1173635)

I see a clear pattern from our resident Trump Supporters and liberal haters

Most of their responses are canned responses as if they cant articulate a reasonable argument that is Fact base .. aka TDS, snowflake , spelling

you think Climate change is real . ( response its a hoax and it any attempts to fix will destroy the economy and our way of life happens all the time ) evidence non provided

support gun control even if you own a gun and have a license to carry ( response you want to take our guns and rights seizure ) evidence none provided

Against a wall but not against fixing the issue (response you support open borders or illegal immigration ) evidence none provided

Against police who shoot unarmed people ( response you hate the police or do as your told )

Trump changing the forecast map, lying daily Pence staying at Tump property in Ireland so on and so forth , Trump supporters oddly enough have nothing to say about theses topic .. ( other than the canned TDS or snowflakes)

they only have comments towards those who highlight their existence... they even ignoring their past paper trail of written words exposing their Hypocrisy .. some who had extensive detailed posts who now only only conduct Drive by post's others who feel 1 or 2 critical post for or against response is all it takes to show objectivity with hundreds of post in 1 direction ..

Clearly My Views of the Direction Trump is taking the USA (not talking economy) is a road to Nationalism hiding behind Patriotism...

and will be seen by the cult personalties or Trump supporters as hating America again with no evidence given


A cult of personality, or cult of the leader,[1] arises when a country's regime – or, more rarely, an individual – uses the techniques of mass media, propaganda, the big lie, spectacle, the arts, patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies to create an idealized, heroic, and worshipful image of a leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.

And here I thought this ^^^^^ couldn't happen in America How wrong i was

NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama (don't question the leader .. fact not one forecasting map had the hurricane map any where Alabama...



After the president's tweet, the National Weather Service, in Birmingham, Ala., responded with its own tweet, saying "Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east."

they also must be trying to embarrass Trump liberal operatives have infiltrated the national weather service in Alabama .. its the only logical explanation

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1173622)

How can we not be caught up in it, it's something stupid or dumb coming out of his mouth or twitter account week after week and when he gets called out on something he got totally wrong he reverts back to his childhood. Only a child caught in a lie takes out a sharpie to recreate the hurricane track to make his lie the truth.

Maybe some just find it too difficult to not get caught up in stupid stuff. I've never got caught up in Biden's constant nonsense. Maybe a sardonic chuckle or so. But never considered them relevant. My only significant opposition to him is his policies.

You MR. (Detbuch) CONSTITUTION, you seem to be OK with Trump steeling money from the military to build his wall. The constitution was set up to prevent authoritarian leadership to have control over our tax payer money, yet now apparently you don't see a problem with him taking control of the purse. Where are you now when our Potus is ignoring the intent of the constitution, or is it as I've stated before; the means justify the ends and a rule bent here or there is ok?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173621)

As of Friday evening, Trump had posted 15 tweets and five maps about Alabama and the storm to try to prove his original tweet was correct, despite the fact that he'd been publicly rebuked by the National Weather Service.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173656)

You focus only on one side of the barrage. Trump is constantly being bombarded by accusations and characterizations. I find no fault in him retorting back in whatever number of tweets he wishes. He may not always be right, but he often is. He was (and is) voluminously portrayed, and "publicly rebuked", as a traitor, Russian collaborator, Nazi, Fascist, homophobe, misogynist, alt-right, racist, and it has demonstrably been shown that he isn't. But if he didn't fight back, with lots and lots of tweets among other ways, he probably would have been destroyed. And it is obvious to me that the intention has been to destroy him.

So I give him kudos for defending every millimeter and ounce of personal turf that he still has. Even when he is mistaken, I understand the gravity of what is being attempted against him and the need to counter it. And I understand why you so strenuously speak in accord with those who oppose him. And why every little possibly denigrating word or move he speaks or makes must be weaponized against him when the big, important, stuff he is accused of fails.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1173637)

this is dumb...trump did provide the dummies with something to blabber on about mindlessly and endlessly though....marker gate.....he and his family are probably robbing the bank while the dummies talk about magic markers

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173656)

You focus only on one side of the barrage. Trump is constantly being bombarded by accusations and characterizations. I find no fault in him retorting back in whatever number of tweets he wishes. He may not always be right, but he often is. He was (and is) voluminously portrayed, and "publicly rebuked", as a traitor, Russian collaborator, Nazi, Fascist, homophobe, misogynist, alt-right, racist, and it has demonstrably been shown that he isn't.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1173658)

last week, cnn had the head of the psychology department of Duke university on. he said trump has killed millions more than hitler, stalin, or mao,
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173669)

Trump sets himself against anyone who doesn’t support him.

How do you know such a thing? How do you know that there are not many instances in which he doesn't? Just because your preferred media hasn't reported it or isn't even aware of it? You seem to be an absolutist for that which you think you know. Yet it is apparent that you're ignorant of a whole lot more things than the limited number of things you think you know.

And, anyway, what's so wrong about being against those who do not support you, especially when you are in a war with those who want to destroy you?

He consistently denigrates anyone who criticizes him in any way and demands praise that in his mind and perhaps yours is due.

Again, what makes you think you know of every instance where someone criticized him? How do you know that there are not times when he was criticized and he not only didn't denigrate, but thanked or agreed with someone who pointed out his error? And what's so bad about denigrating someone who unfairly criticizes you, especially when you are in a war with those who want to destroy you?

His base, of which you seem to be part, has shown no growth despite the good economy.

I don't know if that is true or significant to me if it were. I have no faith in media statistics. They have so often been wrong. And about stuff that is irrelevant to what is politically important to me.

I have seen no demonstrable evidence that he is not any of the things he has been accused of, and far more evidence that he is.

I don't believe that you would accept demonstrable evidence. I have, many times, pointed out how long lists of what you consider evidence were neither demonstrable nor correctly applicable to Trump. You never were able to demonstrably refute me. You seem to just keep throwing out stuff you read or saw which denigrated Trump, some of which you haven't fully understood or which actually refuted your opinion. But which ultimately are no more than opinion. Biased, unsubstantiated opinion.

Claiming that you are the least........does not make you so, but in most people’s minds, reinforces the belief that the converse is true.
60% of Americans are too smart to fall for Trump.

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173652)

He has not taken control of the purse. Congress still has that control. But, as I pointed out to you, Congress is made up of two constitutional parts, the House and the Senate. Both have to agree on spending. If the Senate supports the President against the House, then the President, constitutionally, gets his funds.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1173686)

I’m sure our forefathers didn’t want the president having the ability to call anything an emergency in order to steel money appropriated for military use. Congress using the power of the purse approved those projects and Trump is being so fing desperate to get some of his fence built ahead of 2020, he feels he can overstep and steel those funds.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173711)

Baloney
Congress specifically did not authorize the funding for the wall.
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1173686)

in order to steel money appropriated for military use. he feels he can overstep and steel those funds.

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1173695)

Do you mean steal?
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173652)

He has not taken control of the purse. Congress still has that control. But, as I pointed out to you, Congress is made up of two constitutional parts, the House and the Senate. Both have to agree on spending. If the Senate supports the President against the House, then the President, constitutionally, gets his funds.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1173718)

Regardless it seems pretty depraved for our some of our service members families to have their children's education and safety compromised just so Trump can have a talking point.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173711)

Baloney
Congress specifically did not authorize the funding for the wall.
Trump decided to declare an emergency and said in public in the Rose Garden that he did not need to declare said emergency.
If you can spin that into Article 2 powers, you have a very broad interpretation.
He was probably just kidding, or misconstrued.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1173715)

definitely smarter than the average beer...hang on....spence is asking me to be more pacific

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173720)

There are several billion dollars of UNOBLIGATED funds in the military budget that can be transferred to other projects, such as wall construction, that the Pentagon deems necessary or appropriate. Which it has. And you guys seem to miss that the Senate is the other half of Congress. In order for "Congress" to disapprove of how that money is spent, it would take both the House and the Senate to agree. At this point, the Senate is backing the President.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1173722)

Boy you two are a couple of gems, I couldn't care less to get readers on when posting from my ipad and if you can't get the meaning of the word I suspect you two might be the slower of the group. Auto fill works fast and I couldn't care less to proof read everything before I post, but hey keep up the childish insults it only proves what I already know.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1173724)

that's a great philosophy in life...."I get stuff wrong and everyone else should just deal with it if they don't like it(or find it amusing;)) because I don't care"...hopefully you don't build things :rotf3:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173723)

That all works as long as you declare an emergency, but when you claim you didn't need to it ought to make you think. I suppose it was just hyperbole, puffery or it could be another lie.

He did declare an emergency. So, as you say, it all works. Enough for me when it comes to the question of leglality and unconstitutionality. As for whether an emergency is needed for the Pentagon to spend unobligated funds on other things, I don't know. I don't think an emergency is needed to do so. But I don't know. I was responding to the objections that Trump was somehow trampling the Constitution. And that he was stealing. It seems that you have come around to seeing that he was not illegally messing with Congress's power of the purse

There are other programs being cancelled.

The military construction budget was gutted to build 175 miles of wall and fencing along the border with Mexico, which is about 2,000 miles long.

Sometimes priorities suck.

Just remember your justification when the next president declares an emergency

I didn't create a justification. I stated the legal process that exists. If you don't like that legal process, then remember how we got to the point that the federal government has far more power than the Constitution originally gave it.

to solve one of these problems.

1. Divert military money to fund renewable energy and climate-related construction projects
2. Block domestic oil drilling
3. Restrict car emissions
4. Overhaul trade with countries that buy and sell fossil fuels
5. Change gun regulations
And when you say they could not, keep in mind that at the beginning of the year it was thought that Trump couldn't.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1173727)

Are you two that lame that when two might get auto filled into too, or steal gets turned into steel by a bit of software built in, that it’s hard to fathom the meaning. Or maybe it’s even more lame that you continue to find a need to comment, it’s really not painting either of you two (or too) in a good light.
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1173738)

Geez,GS.
You already have said multiple times that it doesn’t bother you. If you keep commenting about it then people might get the wrong impression. I think between the cheetahs and the software that you are getting a bad wrap.
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