What does Bill have to do with Hillary's running for Pres?

Bill's cheating should not have been an issue (as sleazy as it is). In my opinion the impeachment hurt the Repub. (in a similiar fashion how Bengazi seems to have hurt them).

Paul, I have said I don't support Carson. Been saying that for some time. What else do you want?

Yes, I get worked up over sillt little things like the fact that Obama's spiritual mentor, his political mentor, and his wife, all despise the country. I'm such a perfectionist, I know...

Many of the claims against Carson have been proven false. The WSJ questioned claims about a stunt during a class Carson took at Yale. Turns out it happened the way Carson said. Politico said Carson's camp admitted to them that he lied, then that turned out to be horsebleep.

If Carson stood up for someone who committed fraud, I don't think he has the moral authority to be POTUS (obviously, neither does Hilary). But given all the false accusations against him, I want to see if this one proves true.

If there's a speck of hypocrisy in there, I'd like you to point it out.

Didn't he lie about talking to Westmoreland? He wasn't even in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. Also, he lied about his relationship w/the supplement company.

Why does Hillary not have the moral authority not to be Pres.? Bc she said she was shot at by snipers?

If Bill's character says nothing about Hilary, why does the character of Carson's friend say anything about Carson?

Hilary stuck up for Bill, to the point that she denied Bill cheated, but rather, claimed that the Republicans framed him. That statement makes her either a liar (if she knows her claim is false), or a lunatic (if she genuinely believes her claim).

So far this one is likely the most problematic, but it's got a lot of competition.

"Didn't he lie about talking to Westmoreland?"

I don't know, I thought he got the date wrong.

"Why does Hillary not have the moral authority not to be Pres.? Bc she said she was shot at by snipers?[/"

That, and she said that Bill never cheated on her, but rather, he was being framed by the Republicans. If she truly believes that, she's far too stupid for the job.

What do you think about her claim thatthe GOP was framing Bill, as part of the "vast right wing conspiracy"?

Again, how come lies only matter when told by Republicans?

Obviously he wasn't framed. Again, I believe his cheating should not have been an issue in the hearings - if someone wants to use that as part of how they view someone's moral character than it certainly is legitimate.

Edit - I question the use of the word scholarship bc I've never heard that word used when someone actually is admitted to WP (I know 2 people who went there). I can understand a 17 year old having talked to someone about going to WP using that word, but not a grown man. And he claimed he was offered one - not that someone said he prob. would be admitted and wouldn't have to incure any costs (which I think is prob. what happened - but I don't believe he said that).

"Obviously he wasn't framed"

True. But she stood in front of the cameras, and said he was framed by the vast right wing conspiracy. Which makes her either a liar, or delusional. If there's a third choice, what is it?

When you make mistakes in life, it sure would be good to have a true friend like Ben Carson .
If you were Hillary's friend, you just might have had an unfortunate accident
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remember when Hillary tried to join the Marines in 1975....yeah...that was great.....

So you're admitting he's a liar? I'm not sure he is, actually he's probably a very honest guy. I'm just surprised you'd come right out and say it. :huh:

Nope. But you seem to be suggesting that if he did lie, that's pertinent to his qualifications.

"I'm not sure he is"


Are you sure Hilary is?

I am Catholic,just like you.
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Except you're proud to be pro abortion ... You wear it like a badge of courage , and it's anything but .
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I respect your right to believe otherwise.
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Pro-Choice does not equal Pro-Abortion. Your choice can be Life.
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Who's pro-abortion?
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I keep seeing the term inserted in arguments in place of the term Pro-Choice.....just making an observation.
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just wondering...an observation...

how is pro-abortion....allowing someone to kill someone

and

pro-choice...allowing someone the choice whether or not to kill someone...

any different?...

again...just wondering

The choice part.....
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Not the babies .
If you kill a pregnant woman you can be charged with double murder when in reality you only took away a choice . I see
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My choice would be life......
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so you're pro-life....

I'm pro-everybody-can-make-their-own-decision.
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well......not everybody

wanna try again?

just wondering...an observation...

how is pro-abortion....allowing someone to kill someone

and

pro-choice...allowing someone the choice whether or not to kill someone...

any different?...

again...just wondering

The Choice Part.....
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Dog, meet tail
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Again, the liberals take great liberty here in describing their position dishonestly so as to appear righteous. They call themselves "pro choice". That's pretty broad, isn't it? They sure aren't pro choice when the "choice" involves a poor mother using a voucher to send her kids to a different school, nor are they "pro choice" when a Christian baker wants to choose to be left out of gay wedding. God forbid we call this what it is.

On this issue you are either in favor of abortion rights, or not.

God forbid the liberals call it what it is. Because if we admit that it's about abortion and nothing more, it makes it harder for liberals to demonize the opposition. This way, they can say the opposition is anti-choice, waging war on women, blah, blah, blah.

Am I the only one who considers blahblahblah the most intelligent part of that thought?
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If you are against abortion, don't have one. If you want to worship a plate of spaghetti and meatballs, go for it. If you want to take it in the ass by a bear named Raul, go for it. But... Who are you to tell someone else how to live their life. ;)
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sounds funny coming from someone supporting a socialist for president:kewl:

I do.
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Using that "logic", I can say "if you are against rape, than don't rape anyone, but who are you to tell anyne else what they can do with their reproductive body parts".

Same, same.

Sounds like good logic to me.

Maybe I am a libertarian at heart.
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Funny, you didn't tell me, exactly, where I was wrong.

No one is anti-choice in a broad sense. No sane person is pro-coercion.

This issue isn't about "choice". Every single criminal law on our books, limits the "choices" we can make when someone else is hurt, and no one complains about that.

This issue, then, has nothing to do with "choice". It has everything to do with whether o rnot an unborn baby represents "someone else".

Pro-abortion folks like you won't frame it this way, because when framed this way (read: honestly), my side looks like the side of empathy and compassion. Which spits in the face of what much of liberalism is based on.

Someone who cares about the rights of the innocent & defenseless to, you know, exist.

Sounds like you are pro birth.
What if I told you that most of Bridgeport CT's welfare recipients were pro life ? Would you still support their rights to have tons of babies and would you happily cut the welfare check to support all those babies?

So many pro lifers stop caring the minute the baby is born.
(Not saying that you are one of them)
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"Would you still support their rights to have tons of babies and would you happily cut the welfare check to support all those babies?"

Absolutely, and so would any other person with a minimum of empathy. It is a liberal myth, pure fiction, that conservatives would rather lower taxes even if it meant people starving to death. That's yet another example of liberal lying about what w eare saying, rather than responding to what we are actually saying. I like paying taxes to help people who are truly in need.

"So many pro lifers stop caring the minute the baby is born"

Says who? Just because Jenine Garafolo says that on MSNBC, doesn't make it true. Why do conservatives actually give more money to charity than liberals? Google a study called "Who Really Cares"?

You need to re-think from where you get your news.

"Not saying that you are one of them"

Sincerely glad you said that!