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ReelinRod 11-12-2019 11:51 PM

Here's the schedule for the Best of Show competition next week; I hope Schiff has plenty of treats!


Nov 19
Jennifer Williams
Kurt Volker
Alexander Vindman
Tim Morrison

Nov20
Gordon Sondland
Laura Cooper
David Hale

Nov 21
Fiona Hill

Pete F. 11-13-2019 07:21 AM

Never seen a prosecutor start a trial if he didn’t think he could convict
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Sea Dangles 11-13-2019 07:34 AM

I feel you may be too invested here PeteF. The stupid is flowing at a rapid pace with little to show for it.
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PaulS 11-13-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179232)
NY Post cover for the Shiff Show tomorrow . . .


Nails it!


https://i.postimg.cc/v8X24wXg/EJOEAj3-Wo-AEWXPH.jpg


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I forgot - so who is guilty of sedition?

ReelinRod 11-13-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179240)
Never seen a prosecutor start a trial if he didn’t think he could convict
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And there's the rub.

The Dems know they can't win a conviction as an actual conclusion to impeachment proceedings; they are doing all this for a "conviction" in the ream of public opinion.

Trump haters are with them just because, well "TRUMP!" . . . The objective is soften support among Republican's so they engineer an ending like Nixon, a resignation from shear lack of confidence.

Problem is, this has only demonstrated the duplicitousness of Democrats and the testimony will show just what Trump was up against . . . Not being able to trust anyone in government, the FBI, the Intelligence Community, the diplomatic corps, none could be trusted to execute their duties to actually fulfill the objectives of the new administration. All they could be counted on was to spy, leak, sabotage and undermine . . .

All this will only solidify support for Trump out of shear hate, fire-breathing, bulldoze the bodies hate in those who see what liberals / leftists / progressives / statist authoritarians actually are and recognize that they believe in nothing but scorched-earth. Any talk from your side about cooperation and civility is only to calm us down before you slip the knife in our backs.

Congratulations, you have exposed yourselves as the contemptuous children you really are and let everyone know that you are completely incapable of playing nicely with others and put us on notice that we are in for a real temper tantrum in 2020. That's OK, you should watch yourselves though; bongs, double ended dildos and butt plugs aren't really weapons one can fight real battles with.


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Jim in CT 11-13-2019 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179240)
Never seen a prosecutor start a trial if he didn’t think he could convict
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Tell that to the liberal activist Moseley in Baltimore, or the Duke lacrosse prosecutor. Nah, lawyers are never motivated by politics.
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ReelinRod 11-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1179244)
I forgot - so who is guilty of sedition?


Why don't you post a definition of "sedition" that you agree with and then we can go through each person's actions.


Off the bat I do rescind my belief that the Vindman might have been an honorable man (giving him the benefit of the doubt out of respect for the uniform). Rep Ratcliffe practically walked Vindman into admitting UCMJ Article 92 and Article 88 violations, and would have if Vindman's attorney didn't recognize where the questioning was headed.


F him and his twin brother (the NSA's ethics lawyer LOL, that Vindman told of his "troubles" with the call).

PaulS 11-13-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179251)
Why don't you post a definition of "sedition" that you agree with and then we can go through each person's actions.
Well I'm smart enough to know the people you've tried to slime aren't guilty of sedition.

Off the bat I do rescind my belief that the Vindman might have been an honorable man (giving him the benefit of the doubt out of respect for the uniform). Rep Ratcliffe practically walked Vindman into admitting UCMJ Article 92 and Article 88 violations, and would have if Vindman's attorney didn't recognize where the questioning was headed.


F him and his twin brotherclassy (the NSA's ethics lawyer LOL, that Vindman told of his "troubles" with the call).

nm

ReelinRod 11-13-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1179249)
Tell that to the liberal activist Moseley in Baltimore, or the Duke lacrosse prosecutor. Nah, lawyers are never motivated by politics.


As we see across the nation with Soros backed leftists winning DA elections. Those scumbags are quite willing to sacrifice the lives and fortunes of law-abiding citizens to advance the corrupt social-justice agenda.

And when any prosecutor can nail up a scalp that advances their career, the rule of law, officer of the court duty, ethics and honor go right out the window.

Pete F. 11-13-2019 09:06 AM

We are moving to the point where the election will de the authoritarians vs the Democrats.
Many people say that if Floridaman wins he will rename his party
The Trump Party 🥌
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Pete F. 11-13-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179248)
And there's the rub.

The Dems know they can't win a conviction as an actual conclusion to impeachment proceedings; they are doing all this for a "conviction" in the ream of public opinion.

Trump haters are with them just because, well "TRUMP!" . . . The objective is soften support among Republican's so they engineer an ending like Nixon, a resignation from shear lack of confidence.

Problem is, this has only demonstrated the duplicitousness of Democrats and the testimony will show just what Trump was up against . . . Not being able to trust anyone in government, the FBI, the Intelligence Community, the diplomatic corps, none could be trusted to execute their duties to actually fulfill the objectives of the new administration. All they could be counted on was to spy, leak, sabotage and undermine . . .

All this will only solidify support for Trump out of shear hate, fire-breathing, bulldoze the bodies hate in those who see what liberals / leftists / progressives / statist authoritarians actually are and recognize that they believe in nothing but scorched-earth. Any talk from your side about cooperation and civility is only to calm us down before you slip the knife in our backs.

Congratulations, you have exposed yourselves as the contemptuous children you really are and let everyone know that you are completely incapable of playing nicely with others and put us on notice that we are in for a real temper tantrum in 2020. That's OK, you should watch yourselves though; bongs, double ended dildos and butt plugs aren't really weapons one can fight real battles with.


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Interesting that a Trumplican claims that others don’t play nicely and then goes on to demonstrate just how to play nicely
Floridaman can move his base from 40% to 41% and Americans outside that say NFW do we identify with his ideology.
🍑🤡
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ReelinRod 11-13-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1179252)
nm


Laughable position.

Do you believe that there is a general risk for an incoming administration in allowing "holdovers" to remain in sensitive positions?

If so, why?
If not, definitely explain why . . .

Do you deny the existence of "The Resistance" in current federal government employees and that they were, and are, motivated to frustrate if not sabotage the Trump administration?

What were your thoughts on the NY Times "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration" anonymous essay published in Sept, '18? It was very well received by the left, the author was granted instant hero status.

On the Wiki page about the essay it is said,
"The author of the essay writes that they, and many of their colleagues, deliberately fail to follow some directives from the president when they feel the proposal would be bad for the country, "working diligently" to block his "worst inclinations"."
Do you believe it was just fictional political porn for leftists to fantasize about?

There was news recently saying the same source has written a book, coming out in less than a week! I'm sure it will be a flop because really, such a story is ridiculous isn't it?

ReelinRod 11-13-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179254)
We are moving to the point where the election will de the authoritarians vs the Democrats.


Correct, on the Democrat side it will be a primary pitting rights eliminating statist authoritarians against the few reasonable Democrats cowering in the corner fearing for their lives.

The general election will simply be a choice between load your enemies in cattle cars communism and not communism yet.

Pete F. 11-13-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179258)
Correct, on the Democrat side it will be a primary pitting rights eliminating statist authoritarians against the few reasonable Democrats cowering in the corner fearing for their lives.

The general election will simply be a choice between load your enemies in cattle cars communism and not communism yet.

Take another hit on that pipe

Authoritarians have hidden in many ideologies but most have been populists like Floridaman
Believe only me, not your eyes or ears
The media is fake
It is us against.....,,,
Label your enemies

Keep believing
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PaulS 11-13-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179257)
Laughable position.

Do you mean that it's laughable that I know the people you constantly try to slime aren't guilty of sedition or that you have no class for saying "F" to Vindman and his brother?

ReelinRod 11-13-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1179261)
Do you mean that it's laughable that I know the people you constantly try to slime aren't guilty of sedition or that you have no class for saying "F" to Vindman and his brother?

Well, I know you will not post a definition of the word sedition nor will you address my questions in the context of the actions of some people that were working within, but in opposition to, the Trump administration.

It's clear you will not consider any discussion on "The Resistance" and its operations within the Trump administration, even when presented with self-admitted screeds attesting to such actions.

Such bald superficiality is not a good character trait.

Thus it's clear you have no intellectual integrity so that's why I understand that the only reason you vouch for the veracity of these people is that they are being employed in this attack on Trump, an attack that you would support for no other reason than it is opposing Bad Orange Man.

That's why no one takes you seriously and we laugh at your sorrowful bleating about Trump.


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ReelinRod 11-13-2019 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179260)
Authoritarians have hidden in many ideologies

No laws for some, authoritarianism for others.

The leftist way.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/11/...reet-business/

Pete F. 11-13-2019 10:56 AM

Floridaman thinks he's creating a diversion by having Erdogan at the WH for a presser this afternoon.
He’s wrong. Erdogan is the enemy of the U.S. and Floridaman allowed him to slaughter Kurd families.
He's just giving Senators on the fence cover to jump it.
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PaulS 11-13-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179267)
Thus it's clear you have no intellectual integrity so that's why I understand that the only reason you vouch for the veracity of these people is that they are being employed in this attack on Trump, an attack that you would support for no other reason than it is opposing Bad Orange Man.

That's why no one takes you seriously and we laugh at your sorrowful bleating about Trump.


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What a clown. As I said your claiming people are guilty of sedition shows your scumminess and your saying "F" to Vindman and his brother shows your lack of class.

scottw 11-13-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1179270)
What a clown. As I said your claiming people are guilty of sedition shows your scumminess and your saying "F" to Vindman and his brother shows your lack of class.

like a broken record....

Pete F. 11-13-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179268)
No laws for some, authoritarianism for others.

The leftist way.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/11/...reet-business/

Quite comical to claim as a Trumplican that the rule of law matters and people #^&#^&#^&#^&ting in the street is a sure indicator of the failure of Democrats
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Sea Dangles 11-13-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1179271)
like a broken record....

All he does is comment on people’s posts with nothing to add.
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wdmso 11-13-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179206)
What do you want to see, screengrabs of the call that I mention, quotes from Volker's statement?

This entire "thing" is about Trump's intent, why was the aid held up????

I contend the reason is simply what Trump has always maintained; he wasn't sending millions of dollars to a corrupt government.


Plenty of people have said that was a primary concern of Trump's, plenty of people have acknowledged that corruption was Normal Operating Procedure for all things Ukrainian and Zelenskyy ran on a platform of eradicating it . . . Trump wanted assurances that was happening before he released the $$$$$$.


OTOH, you guys have an ever evolving Rube Goldberg of feelings and interpretations of impressions of second hand water-cooler innuendo and gossip of Trump-hating leftist A-holes.

A-holes who resented to their core that Trump would dare proceed with any foreign policy without their direction, approval and hand-holding, thus the Marxist pogrom of seditious leaks and duplicitous backstabbing of Trump, all towards undermining him with supporters and culminating in this attempted soft coup, disguised as impeachment intended to influence the 2020 election.

May you cry inconsolably when he is reelected and be rendered so emotionally incapacitated that no therapy can help; you deserve nothing less!


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A lot of words ..just to say you got no factual infomation to back up everything your spewing..

Ps what kinda of American are you trying to get back to? When was it acceptable?

LOVED Nunes opening statement at the hearings . All conspiracy and but but Obama and Hillary. And the steel dossiers

Key phrases that give guys like you a woodie
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PaulS 11-13-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1179271)
like a broken record....

You haven't added anything in months. That is what happens when you post in the same forum as SD - your brain turns to mush.

PaulS 11-13-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1179273)
All he does is comment on people’s posts with nothing to add.
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You've bc a parody of yourself!

scottw 11-13-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1179276)
You haven't added anything in months. That is what happens when you post in the same forum as SD - your brain turns to mush.

don't come back till you get some new material

PaulS 11-13-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1179279)
don't come back till you get some new material

ok

Pete F. 11-13-2019 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1179249)
Tell that to the liberal activist Moseley in Baltimore, or the Duke lacrosse prosecutor. Nah, lawyers are never motivated by politics.
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An impeachment is a political proceeding per the Constitution
The criminal trial could come later and would be based on the rule of law
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wdmso 11-13-2019 12:42 PM

Next phase Republicans move into character assasination
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Pete F. 11-13-2019 12:48 PM

Sources say this is going so poorly for House Republicans that after a break Nunes is going to bring in Brett Kavanaugh to scream at everyone.

scottw 11-13-2019 02:51 PM

I hope these continue for a long time...dummycraps look dumber than they did during Kavanaugh...I would not have though that possible...hope they find a rape train witness or something to save this mess for them...will schiff ever learn who the whistleblower is??? :rotflmao:

PaulS 11-13-2019 02:58 PM

I did get a laugh when White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said President Trump not watching the impeachment hearings but was working.

2 lies in one sentence is pretty impressive, even for members of this cabinet.

scottw 11-13-2019 03:00 PM

they need to stop putting schif on camera...America's children will be having nightmares:eyes:

Pete F. 11-13-2019 03:07 PM

Q: In your decades of military service and diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the President of the United States?

Ambassador Taylor: No ... I have not.
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Pete F. 11-13-2019 03:08 PM

"You described in your text message exchanges that engaging in a scheme like this is 'crazy.' Can we also agree that it's just wrong?

TAYLOR: "Yes...holding up of security assistance...for no good policy reason...no good national security reason, is wrong."
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Pete F. 11-13-2019 04:00 PM

Welcome to the land of Floridaman aka Bizzaro world, where we see Republicans attempt to make career civil servants & war heroes the bad guys in defense of a life-long liberal, draft-dodging conman, and only Democrats stand up and defend our national security & the rule of law.

ReelinRod 11-13-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179294)
Q: In your decades of military service and diplomatic service representing the U.S. around the world, have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the President of the United States?

Ambassador Taylor: No ... I have not.

And truthfully still haven't, your question is predicated on a conclusion that has only come being though multiple layers of other people's impressions of how they felt about what they heard other people supposedly said . . .



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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1179295)
"You described in your text message exchanges that engaging in a scheme like this is 'crazy.' Can we also agree that it's just wrong?

TAYLOR: "Yes...holding up of security assistance...for no good policy reason...no good national security reason, is wrong."

Let me rephrase for the sake of facts and truth, IF it happened it would be wrong . . .

wdmso 11-13-2019 04:39 PM

Saw a ton of but but Obama..

To funny they want the whistleblower to be subpoenaed.

Yet anyone with 1st hand knowledge have refused to appear if after being subpoenaed... LOL

Guess Republicans have never heard of Commanders intent, and how it works..
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Sea Dangles 11-13-2019 05:29 PM

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Pete F. 11-13-2019 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 1179298)
And truthfully still haven't, your question is predicated on a conclusion that has only come being though multiple layers of other people's impressions of how they felt about what they heard other people supposedly said . . .

Let me rephrase for the sake of facts and truth, IF it happened it would be wrong . . .

Perhaps there are witnesses who should or could testify with first hand knowledge
Bolton
Mulvaney
Giuliani
Trump
Sounds like Sondland has splaining to do also about his phone call with Trump, though it seems it was on a non secure phone and is now just one more thing Putin has on his Puppet.

Gym Jordans defense strategy (currently) is that asking Zelensky to investigate the Bidens/2016 elections was a “corruption test,” which he “passed” by not doing.
Was this part of The Stable Genius’s plan or did the Nunes/Jordan brain trust put their combined mind to work on that.

Because by claiming this they admit that asking them to investigate was corrupt, and that aid was withheld bc of it.
Not the sharpest tools in the shed

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