Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1138402)

Here is a site, admittedly antigun, but it has a list of school shootings since Newtown. Look at the categories and see how many are Gun fired unintentionally with injury or death resulting.
It might make you think about having more guns in schools
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1138436)

Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1138438)

yeah....whenever I see one of these teachers doing the..."I'm an educator and Trump wants me to carry a weapon and I can't afford paste and crayons for my kids to eat"....I'm thinking....yeah, I don't think he had you in mind...:laugha:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1138435)

Are there any Republican action or words or in this case threats that you dont support ? heres a site so you'll love

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...es_to_boycott/

ORGANIZATIONS TO BOYCOTT:
Pepsico

MACY'S

Amazon - owned by Jeff Bezos

The NFL - this is a big one but has been requested multiple times. Any opposition?

GrubHub (CEO is a total cuck) and their subsidiary, Seamless

OREOS (moved production to Mexico)

CARRIER Air Conditioning (moved production to Mexico)

Moz

Dreamworks

Netflix - spreads propaganda for Al Qaeda

Lifeway Foods - CEO Julie Smolyansky trashed President Trump.

PacketSled *

ConAgra - they're closing up and moving to MEXICO

Comet Ping Pong, Besta Pizza, Terasol, Politics and Prose and Beyond Borders - see r/pizzagate

Required mention: social media such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, Imgur, YouTube - all censored pro-Trump stuff. If you use these to post pro-Trump stuff, weigh the benefits. Trump did use SM to win the election.

Disney - they're cucked and many are clamoring for them to be added.

Ben & Jerry's for supporting BLM

Starbucks (by popular demand)

Dell


Love that Info wars is on they support them section

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1138436)

Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1138445)

If you read this and can figure out where in the current police scenario depicted herein a teacher with a gun fits in and can feel safe, feel free to explain it to me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...o-kill/305313/

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1138442)

67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website. :rolleyes:

some were people with no affiliation to the schools.

and a large number were students who brought guns in from home.

don't see where this has much of a bearing on allowing legally licensed employees the right to carry.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1138351)

When the towers fell on 911 we immediately changed airline security guidelines. Armed Marshalls, armed pilots, Metal detectors at every entrance, Steel doors on the cockpits

We didn't tell people they couldn't buy box cutters, we shored up security everywhere that could be a weakness.

A bunch of kids get killed and the gut reaction is to outlaw the "Box Cutters". Why wouldn't we put Armed Guards in the schools, Allow teachers to carry, metal detectors at the entrances to the school and secure doors on the classrooms. We need to change security procedures to ensure their safety.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1138448)

Simple, they don't.

A teacher shouldn't be cruising the halls looking for an active shooter.

Students/teacher shelter in place (classroom), lock doors til threat is over. Teacher armed, with focus on door of classroom. 26 people in room, better chance of 26 people leaving at the end of the day.

Not a fan of this fleeing mentality, just leads to chaos that the shooter can take advantage of.

This would also rely on the Deputies entering the school to track down the shooter instead of waiting outside for the fairy god mother to help.

Now if the Active shooter finds them, at least they have option to defend themselves.

Everybody is under this impression that the teachers are going to be some rogue SWAT team for the school.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1138450)

TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1138452)

Darwinism doesn't play favorites

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1138341)

I think 26 would be better since that's the age that they're consider adults now thanks to Obamacare....

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1138402)

Here is a site, admittedly antigun, but it has a list of school shootings since Newtown. Look at the categories and see how many are Gun fired unintentionally with injury or death resulting.
It might make you think about having more guns in schools
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1138450)

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TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1138459)

You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138460)

Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1138459)

You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138460)

Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1138459)

You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138460)

Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1138474)

I think there might be a bar in Boston that caters to people who expected their Insurance premiums to go down under Obamacare, but didn't. You should check it out, maybe you can commiserate with them.

I think Tuesday night is 1/2 price well drinks for those who didn't get to keep their doctor.

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1138469)

Get a new accountant and congrats on the raise! Get 15 years and you will make out great.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138482)

Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138482)

Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1138488)

Can't deduct all your mortgage interest, eh?

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1138460)

Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1138512)

I expect to pay more for 2018. I have no kids, and no mortgage. I pay well over $10K in property taxes (as do most my friends in town). I noticed a slight increase in take home pay but don't think it will offset the cap on state tax deduction.