Only a very sharp tool can relay that info PeteF.

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Perhaps indeed!
About as much chance as Ciaramella appearing. . .

Sure does, it might be nice to finally hear someone, under oath, directly quoting the President instead of third-hand Presidential mind-reading, assigning Trump all manner of motivations and purposes.

Short of that I guess Sondland will keep with the program with his "testimony" and offer what his impression was of what his aide's impression was of what Trump's intentions were on the phone conversation the aide overheard and relayed to Taylor.

SMH, what compels you to write such stupid crap? What makes you think the US Ambassador to the European Union wouldn't possess a secure phone and/or the line he was speaking on with the President wasn't secure?

That probably made sense to you and sounded like, really compelling when you wrote it.

Much like your Trumplican baloney tastes to you
Keep telling yourself bull#^&#^&#^&#^& is tasty
You could get a position directly behind Floridaman with your nose up his but, but you’ll have to fight Nunes, Jordan and Ratman for position
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Just think if Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney, Rick Perry and others had anything to say that would help Trump in his impeachment battle, Trump would personally drive them to the hearing to testify. The fact that Trump ordered all of them NOT to testify proves he’s afraid of what they’d say.
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After today, I guess that's the best you can hope for.

And this was before the Floridaman’s idiots spoke today
Poll: Almost 50 percent of Americans in battleground states support impeaching and removing Trump
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I'm surprised it isn't higher given the 90+% negative media coverage of Trump.

It's even worse on social media. Over half of my FB friends are loyal robotic Democrat union members, fellow building trades guys and family has teachers and nurses and the political stuff they share is 110% liberal narrative Occupy Democrats negative.

Quite a few are posting that today was a huge victory for the Democrats; I know they worked today without much if any chance to actually watch. It's clear they are parroting what they are hearing on media or scrolling over in their feeds. I have no question how they would answer your poll question but I know they would be unable to answer the most basic civics or political questions I would ask them.

I'm retired, I watched all but a few minutes.

Just a little logic and it becomes obvious why he’s Floridaman

Has any GOP member explained why — if as Jim Jordan says Ukraine is “one of the three most corrupt countries on the planet” — Trump trusted them to investigate two U.S. citizens for...corruption?
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Seeing the new arguments are direct conversations.

I bring up . Commanders intent.. and I'll dump it down

1st the commander (Trump) instructed his officials. What he wanted from Ukraine direction with the (three amigos) face to face

2nd these people carry out the commander's intent. By instructing people lower in the chain this is what needs to happen

3rd the planned intent of Trump is established

Lastly the plan is excuted

The success or the Failure of the plan or the lack of its completion.

Doesn't change the Truth that it was clearly conveyed as Trumps intent.. from those who Trump told

Yet Republicans spin they need to have direct conversations with Trump To understand his intent..

Is a lame defense unless you a cult member .. or never worked in a factory been in the . Military

Every man on D-day clearly understood Gen Eisenhowers . Intent with out speaking to him directly... funny it worked then,
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:huh:

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Perhaps you should direct your question to George Kent who testified that he had complete confidence in the Zelenskyy government now.

Kent also said he would love to see complete investigations begun by the Zelenskyy government into Burisma's theft and the corruption of former Ukraine officials -- Officials, including prosecutors, who were bought off to end the earlier investigation and allow all that money (some provided by the USA) to vanish.

"George Kent, deputy assistant secretary at the State Department, said he believed alleged corruption related to Ukrainian gas company Burisma should be investigated, a point Republicans have emphasized in their defense of President Donald Trump.

“To summarize, we thought that Mykola Zlochevsky had stolen money,” Kent said of the oligarch head of Burisma. “We thought a prosecutor had taken a bribe to shut the case, those were our main concerns."

“Are you in favor of that matter being fully investigated and prosecuted?” asked Steve Castor, Republicans' counsel on the House Intelligence Committee.

“I think since U.S. taxpayer dollars were wasted, I would love to see the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office find out who the corrupt prosecutor was and who took the bribe, and how much was paid, and that’s what I told the deputy prosecutor general on February 3, 2015,” Kent replied.

When asked if he thought individuals or organizations responsible for the bribes should be prosecuted, Kent replied, "I agree that the Ukrainian law authorities should uphold the rule of law and hold people accountable for breaking Ukrainian law.""

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/new...ed/4180372002/

The call to Zelensky that is at the crux of this investigation wasn’t just “inappropriate.” It was one part of a conspiracy to withhold aid for Trumps personal gain, that took numerous people (Trump in coordination with Guiliani, Sondland, Mulvaney, Fruman, Parnas, Volker and Perry at a minimum) months to put together to bully Ukraine into announcing a politically motivated investigation. Yesterday’s hearing confirmed that and subsequent ones will build on it.

Trump claims it was not inappropriate. And his modus operandi tells us that if he gets away with something like this again as he did with Assange and Wikileaks, he’ll do it again. Because he has done it again.

I guess he took “dumbing” it down literally


Either that, or we’re no match for his superior intellect
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I watched the hearing and have yet to see an official transcript, but when Kent was asked that question he qualified his answer quite carefully and did not say he had "complete confidence"

There was also another line of questioning about the timeline of Biden, Burisma and investigations that I don't have time to look up on video.

Some other things Kent said:

“It was unexpected, and most unfortunate, to watch some Americans — including those who allied themselves with corrupt Ukrainians in pursuit of private agendas — launch attacks on dedicated public servants advancing U.S. interests in Ukraine,” he said.

"You can't promote principled anti-corruption action without pissing off corrupt people."

“To your knowledge, is there any factual basis to support the allegation that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?” Goldman asked, to which Kent replied, “To my knowledge, there is no factual basis, no. … I think it’s amply clear that Russian interference was at the heart of the interference.”



Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Michael Carpenter also had some applicable comments:

"What strikes me about President Trump‘s efforts to smear Vice President Biden and spread a pro-Russian conspiracy theory about the 2016 election is both the degree to which Trump was willing to abuse the office of the presidency to achieve his aims, but also the types of people he and Rudy Giuliani enlisted in their effort. Partnering with henchmen like Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman is bad enough. But look closely at who Trump and Giuliani worked with in Ukraine. Viktor Shokin, Konstantin Kulyk, Yuri Lutsenko, and Dmytro Firtash are all associated with major corruption scandals. In other words, President Trump and his lawyer enlisted the most corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs and officials to carry out their scheme of pressuring the Ukrainian President. Rather than helping Zelensky to fight corruption, they dragged him into their own corruption scandal."

moving the goalposts. i was responding to your laughable comment that lawyers don’t proceed with a case unless they feel they have a good case. they’re a group that’s well known for
being motivated
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you could try to tell me how I am .. if you could ... :faga:

Is your position that prosecutions in the USA occur largely for political reasons and are not governed by the rule of law?

You know how Democrats think the typical Trump voter is backwoods hillbilly trailer trash?


Here is an engineered diagram that intended to fully explain to those rubes the Democrat's argument for impeaching Trump:


https://i.postimg.cc/gkRZqrgx/Goober.jpg

probably this one :btu:

Actually the Democrats are saying Trump organized a conspiracy to get Ukraine to publicly say they were investigating Biden and that picture is pretty close to the machinations of Floridaman and Colludy in their attempt to reach that goal.

The GOP defense theory for the debacle in Ukraine is a combination of the following: a) it ain't a bank robbery if you don't end up with the cash; b) it ain't a bank robbery if you dislike some of the bank's employees; c) I can rob any bank I want; d) it ain't a bank robbery if—look! a bird! e) it ain't a bank robbery if the robber says it isn't; f) it ain't a bank robbery if the bank's employees are too scared to finger the perp; g) it ain't a bank robbery if another bank got robbed a long time ago; h) who cares about this bank? i) bank robbery isn't illegal; j) you can't lose your job just for committing a bank robbery; k) some of the bank's employees didn't immediately realize they were being robbed; l) I'm not the only one who robs banks—everyone does it!
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Your opinion is important to....PaulS
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Well he certainly is much smarter than you.

Here comes the bus, look out Coludy

Meadows: Having spent seven hours with Ambassador Sondland, I think what you’ll find is anytime he had direct contact with the President of the United States, and not Rudy Giulinai or others, the message was clear. There was no condition placed on aid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0Quq36c5s

Hmmm............
President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani says in a new interview that he isn't worried about the prospect of the president turning on him, but joked that he has "very good insurance" in the event that he does.

Yup
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Treason, BRIBERY, or “other high Crimes or Misdemeanors”: George Mason expressly urged including “OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES OR MISDEMEANORS” in place of “OR CORRUPTION” in order to cover all ATTEMPTS to subvert the Constitution.
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Sondland and Trump calling each other on unsecured cell phones. Amateurs
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Hey he's the smartest president of all times, I'm certain that line was secure, he wouldn't be stupid like that. I'm sick of all this impeachment crap, we bribe foreign governments all the time to interfere in our elections, just get over it.

you'd think the liberal tools would be full of glee now that their impeachment wet dream has commenced....like dour Nancy however, they seem particularly prickly and less than confident :bl:

You must have watched a different hearing, the panic I saw was clearly the GOP, can’t wait for this to wrap up. They will impeach, Moscow Mitch will have a quick damn it I have to do it trial and then we can finally get the people to make up their minds in 2020. I think he should dump Pence and put Steven Miller in as his running mate, then the agenda will be right out in the open.
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I hope it goes on for months

Nothing will happen to the white nationalist. Another low for the cess pool in the WH.

todays line with be Ambassadors server at the POTUS pleasure he does not required a reason to remove them or shes a “Obama holdover”

President Barack Obama fired General James Mattis, the head of Central Command, the right had a meltdown.. (no support for at his pleasure)

But with Trump it is ok because he is POTUS , Trump heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend (Rudy Giuliani) Marie Yovanovitch stood in the way. ..... Trump never met of spoke to her .... Gone

its amazing to See Republican complaints about no direct contact and 2nd hand info but do the same thing and thinks its different..

these butt hurt bureaucrats are pretty funny...i wonder what schif offered them in return for their cooperation?

"heard it from a friend who....heard it from a friend who...heard it from another you've been messin' around" :hihi:

panic over what? did you see jim jordan question the star witness, who admitted zero first hand
knowledge of anything?
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Jim Jordan got out the skewer.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s don’t like him.
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well he was at ohio state when some other guy assaulted a woman, so clearly that’s his fault.
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