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wdmso 08-10-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230843)
many times you say the gop wants a big federal government. now you’re criticizing the gop for wanting to be free from feds. which is it?

talk about wanting to have it both ways!


wayne, the gop can be a bunch of fascists who want to impose their will on everyone through federal law. you’ve said they want to take over the federal government and impounded sharia law in the rest of us.

or they can be a bunch of anti-federal government looks who say that washington DC is the enemy.

They can’t be both! How can they be both?

But no, you’re not just saying these things because of partisanship.


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Yep keep ignoring what’s happening right in front of your nose ears and eyes

The Republicans you refer do not exist . In the House maybe a few in the senate

And keep thinking that flags is being used against big government

They want no government unless it’s their version. Freedom for me not for thee that’s their objective and Trumps willing to burn down the Us government if it gets him off the hook and promotes his and their victim hood
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wdmso 08-10-2022 10:59 AM

Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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Jim in CT 08-10-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230848)
Yep keep ignoring what’s happening right in front of your nose ears and eyes

The Republicans you refer do not exist . In the House maybe a few in the senate

And keep thinking that flags is being used against big government

They want no government unless it’s their version. Freedom for me not for thee that’s their objective and Trumps willing to burn down the Us government if it gets him off the hook and promotes his and their victim hood
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so democrats don’t bend government to do what they want, when they’re in power. only republicans. gotcha.
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Jim in CT 08-10-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230850)
Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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wdmso 08-10-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230854)
“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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Pete F. 08-10-2022 03:03 PM

So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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Jim in CT 08-10-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1230863)
So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

Jim in CT 08-10-2022 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230861)
Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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"Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want !"

Funny, isn't that the entire pro-abortion position, in one poorly constructed sentence?

"Society can go to hell. "

If the conservative view of freedom is "hell-ish", please explain why so many people and businesses are moving to red states? They're all masochists?

"your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things"

You're lying again. I never said "only liberals" do those things. I concede conservatives can be greedy and dishonest and hypocritical, I've said that 1,000 times. I listed those examples because you are the absolutist who will never admit democrats do those things.

"Like I said denial "

How am I in denial, when I admit that conservatives are guilty of every sin known to man? The one denying facts is you, when you deny that liberals are similarly flawed. I provided irrefutable examples of their hypocrisy. But you, the one in denial, will never admit it.

Make that wrong. Go ahead and admit that liberals, being human,. are flawed as well. You'll never admit it, you can't. Because you don't merely believe in liberalism, you are a slave to it.

Why not set aside the "conservatives are evil, liberals are noble" bullsh8t and talk honestly about policies, results, and what Americans actually want?

Pete F. 08-10-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230864)
"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

The poor victim never misses a right wing trope and as a Trump supporter obviously has no standards.

The Cult’s reaction to the search of Trump’s hotel reflects the belief that certain categories of people are subject to the law and it’s enforcement and abuses and others, like Trump, exempt from it entirely.

This is also why cult members argue that executing a warrant on a Republican is tyranny, but shooting unarmed civilians, abusing suspects in police custody, or brutalizing left wing protesters are all virtuous actions that should be rewarded.

As someone else said
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
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Got Stripers 08-10-2022 03:34 PM

I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

Pete F. 08-10-2022 03:46 PM

Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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Jim in CT 08-10-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1230869)
I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

scottw 08-10-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230872)

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again.

.

I don't want trump to run...you'd think the dems would be thrilled for him to run based on all their bloviating...but they seem terrified of him for some reason....

scottw 08-10-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1230870)
Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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it's a valid question....

Jim in CT 08-10-2022 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1230883)
it's a valid question....

the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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scottw 08-10-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230872)

If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

this will be fabulous fun....

Jim in CT 08-10-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1230887)
this will be fabulous fun....

the democrats do these things ( like only requiring 52 votes to confirm a judge), thinking that they will
never be in the minority, never be in the receiving end.
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wdmso 08-11-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230872)
Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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Got Stripers 08-11-2022 03:33 PM

Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

The Dad Fisherman 08-11-2022 04:00 PM

Define “Average American”?
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Pete F. 08-11-2022 04:09 PM

Americans have finally woken up and stopped focusing on what MSM talking heads & policy wonks were saying and discovered real people are damned upset about Roe, mass shootings, January 6th, the Big Lie, the assault on public schools and Republicans extremism in general.

Media blamed Biden for

…the formula shortage that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit for fixing it.

…gas prices that weren’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that they’ve gone down.

…inflation that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that it’s stemmed.

And Trumplicans think stealing classified documents is a winner?
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Jim in CT 08-11-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230938)
The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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"Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug. "

I posted a link, which unfortunately you didn't have someone read to you. The FBI director said it's "very concerning" to him the way it was suppressed. Those are his words, not mine, and I bet he knows almost as much about what happened, as you do.

"And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed"

Well, when they refuse to investigate, isn't it kind of hard to prove anything? Carter Page was never charged with anything, that didn't stop the same FBI from lying to a FISA court to get a warrant to spy on him. But Hunter is untouchable. For now.

Jim in CT 08-11-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1230939)
Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

Yet in the Gallup poll taken in the summer of 2020 (during the height of the pandemic), a record number of Americans said they were better off after 4 years of Trump. According to Gallup - Trumps 56% who said they were better off was "easily the highest Gallup has recorded among comparable points in previous incumbents' presidencies."

Lemme guess - Obama's policies were the reasons why so many said they were better off in 2020 than in 2016.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...er-off-1621962

spence 08-11-2022 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230884)
the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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You’re confusing his remarks.

Jim in CT 08-11-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1230949)
You’re confusing his remarks.

clarify them for me please?
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Pete F. 08-12-2022 12:54 AM

According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

6.5 million new jobs -528k in July
Unemployment 3.5% -- 50-year low
Covid Relief Deal
Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act
Inflation Reduction Act (includes major climate action)
1st Major gun safety law
-Zawahiri killed
-CHIPS Act passes
-PACT Act passes
-Gas hits 50+ day low
U.S. Federal deficit decreased by 30% in July to $211 billion.
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spence 08-12-2022 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230950)
clarify them for me please?
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You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

Jim in CT 08-12-2022 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1230962)
You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

Ah. donuts your interpretation of his comments, as opposed to his explicit comments, that would suggest i was confused. And we are all shocked that your interpretation of his comments, has a pro hunter biden result. No one saw that coming.

If the gop takes the house ( more of an if than i’d have thought), we will
see. No matter what facts get revealed,, we all look forward to your creative spin and denial.
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Jim in CT 08-12-2022 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1230962)
You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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Pete F. 08-12-2022 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230964)
Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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You’re correct, you’re confused.

Kennedy grilled Wray on Thibault’s alleged partisan actions on social media over the past few years, such as “liking” a Washington Post article titled “William Barr has gone rogue” and tweeting to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) that her father — former Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney — was a “disgrace.” Kennedy also mentioned Thibault’s retweet of a Lincoln Project post saying that “Donald Trump is a psychologically broken, embittered, and deeply unhappy man.”
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Pete F. 08-12-2022 06:41 AM

Back to the midterms

When you lose Fox “News”…

Steve Doocy confronts Minority Whip Rep. Steve Scalise: “Whatever happened to the Republican party backing the blue?”
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wdmso 08-12-2022 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230964)
Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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Yet Wray who heads the FBI has done nothing public in the Hunter case why do you think that is.

Please don’t say Biden because Of Trump a sitting POTUS a an not be charged with a crime ( and Iam not saying ones been committed)

2 it’s called chain of custody. It’s a real thing. No court or judges are going to allow that laptop which has been handled by so many conservatives and Republicans Biden Haters it makes Jeffery Epstein look like an alter boy . And if they do any good defense lawyer will have a field day


Hunters investigation has entered its final stages, prosecutors have narrowed their focus to tax and gun-related charges, the people say.

Wow getting a gun No Republicans care about gun laws

And now Republicans care about Tax evasion Or just Hunters

Do you make $75,000 or less?” tweeted House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. “Democrats’ new army of 87,000 IRS agents will be coming for you—with 710,000 new audits for Americans who earn less than $75k.” Richard Grenell, Trump’s former Acting Director of National Intelligence, wrote on the social media platform: “The FBI raids Trump’s house and the Democrats vote to add 87,000 new IRS agents to go after Americans. Wake up, America.”

But they won’t tell the Truth. They can’t

includes roughly $78 billion for the IRS to be phased in over 10 years. A Treasury Department report from May 2021 estimated that such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.
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scottw 08-12-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230971)

Yet Wray who heads the FBI has done nothing public in the Hunter case why do you think that is.


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I bet if trump or one of his family members took video of themselves with guns, crack and hookers....they'd investigate....and we'd hear about it:D

scottw 08-12-2022 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230971)
Y

includes roughly $78 billion for the IRS to be phased in over 10 years. A Treasury Department report from May 2021 estimated that such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.
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I saw the ad for new agents...."willing to use deadly force" was a prerequisite in Dark Brandon's Enforcement Brigade

Pete F. 08-12-2022 08:03 AM

Today in the U.S., corporations will steal $137 million in wages, rich people will steal $2.75 billion in taxes, and 1,300 people will die from poverty, air pollution, and medical error. Think about who benefits from the news ignoring this and focusing on how the IRS will get you
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scottw 08-12-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230971)

such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.

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what would they be then?

Pete F. 08-12-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1230972)
I bet if trump or one of his family members took video of themselves with guns, crack and hookers....they'd investigate....and we'd hear about it:D

You haven’t seen Don Jr and his honey, have you?
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wdmso 08-12-2022 11:29 AM

Homeland Security watchdog delays probe — with GOP help

Joseph V. Cuffari and his staff have refused to release certain documents and tried to block interviews for a long-running probe that has evolved into more than a dozen allegations of misconduct.

Another witch or just more of the same GOP integrity
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wdmso 08-12-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1230975)
what would they be then?

Now your playing dumb.

Classic, you think the IRS is made up of only of agents.
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Jim in CT 08-12-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1230966)
You’re correct, you’re confused.

Kennedy grilled Wray on Thibault’s alleged partisan actions on social media over the past few years, such as “liking” a Washington Post article titled “William Barr has gone rogue” and tweeting to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) that her father — former Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney — was a “disgrace.” Kennedy also mentioned Thibault’s retweet of a Lincoln Project post saying that “Donald Trump is a psychologically broken, embittered, and deeply unhappy man.”
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Kennedy grilled Wray for the FBI agents social media posts, AND for the allegation that the same agent didn't want to look into Hunter. 2 things. And Wray referenced things that were deeply troubling to him.

The "s" at the end of "things", means plural.


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