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MotoXcowboy 01-23-2012 04:23 PM

I'd like to have a Senator that walks the talk
 
Rand Paul stopped by TSA after body scan anomaly - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com

spence 01-23-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy (Post 916546)

Sounds like a silly stunt.

I fly quite a bit and find the TSA to be consistently professional.
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striperman36 01-23-2012 06:58 PM

I think it was a stupid act. I do think tsa is a little anal , shoes?, at least I can keep my nail clippers now.
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JohnnyD 01-23-2012 07:24 PM

Sounds to me like he thinks the TSA is an impotent organization that does a better job of making every flying American feel like a criminal than it does at preventing people from taking dangerous items onto a plane.

A very timely example, a friend of flew the other day and realized he had a pocket knife on him. Went through the X-Ray with the rest of his stuff, he goes through the strip-scanner. He was an hour into his flight when he though "oh crap. Did I forget to take that out?" And there was his knife.

Yeah... continue to be complacent and accept being required to check your civil liberties at the door.

Rand Paul has been a consistent critic of the TSA and actually had the pull to not be bullied into submitting to a strip-search or being put into a holding cell.

MotoXcowboy 02-07-2012 01:08 PM

They are breaking down your will to resist. The congres and the states can stop it anytime they want.all 50 states have laws against it. It is called sexual assualt. 1st degree outside of pants 2nd degree inside of pants. 1st is a misdemeanor and 2nd is a felony. Kids are 2nd degree.everyone is scared to do there job.

PaulS 02-07-2012 01:14 PM

If I don't like it, I can take a bus.

JohnnyD 02-10-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 919438)
If I don't like it, I can take a bus.

I'm on the west coast for work pretty frequently. I'd like to see you take a bus out there.

justplugit 02-10-2012 08:29 PM

JD, buses no, but if you ever get a few extra days, take the California Zepher out of
Oakland to Chicago and fly from there.
Best train trip I ever had, the scenery and wildlife is unbelieveable.
Just make sure you get a sleeper. :hihi:

Fly Rod 02-10-2012 09:04 PM

Sorry!

When I went through Tsa with my breathing apartartus I elected to go through the shaig down ,,,They were very gertious had no problem, maybe he thought because he was a senator he was priveliged.

RIROCKHOUND 02-11-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy (Post 919436)
They are breaking down your will to resist. The congres and the states can stop it anytime they want.all 50 states have laws against it. It is called sexual assualt. 1st degree outside of pants 2nd degree inside of pants. 1st is a misdemeanor and 2nd is a felony. Kids are 2nd degree.everyone is scared to do there job.


Your tin-foil hat is starting to show...

spence 02-11-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 920086)
Your tin-foil hat is starting to show...

Bryan, Obama already has secret death camps ready for deployment under DHS control. He's just waiting for Soros to send the signal...
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justplugit 02-11-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 920099)
Bryan, Obama already has secret death camps ready for deployment under DHS control. He's just waiting for Soros to send the signal...
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Prolly not, but a bigger push on Agenda 21 would be a possibility.

PaulS 02-11-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 920037)
I'm on the west coast for work pretty frequently. I'd like to see you take a bus out there.

Then take the train if you don't want to put up w/the requirements.

spence 02-11-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 920120)
Prolly not, but a bigger push on Agenda 21 would be a possibility.

Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

JohnnyD 02-11-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 920126)
Then take the train if you don't want to put up w/the requirements.

I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.

PaulS 02-11-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 920170)
I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.

I've flown plenty of times for work - not as much recently. I've never been bothered by the searches. Flying isn't a right.

MotoXcowboy 02-12-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 920130)
Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

That has been his plan for the last year. He was heard telling the Brady family that last year. Hinted at increasing the price of shells to the point that you cannot buy them.

spence 02-12-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy (Post 920340)
That has been his plan for the last year. He was heard telling the Brady family that last year. Hinted at increasing the price of shells to the point that you cannot buy them.

It's funny, the NRA just makes stuff up and the gun crowd goes nuts.

Sorry to break it this way, but your assertion is bogus.

-spence

striperman36 02-12-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 920170)
I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.


Anywhere out of Acela range you can't get there via train, the train price is reasonable but be prepared. BOS to CHI is a 25 hour trip via DC with a 2 hour layover in DC. I could drive to CHI faster, total cost 1 way with a sleeper is 300 buck. 90 min plane ride plus SEECURITY

MotoXcowboy 02-12-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 920356)
It's funny, the NRA just makes stuff up and the gun crowd goes nuts.

Sorry to break it this way, but your assertion is bogus.

-spence

A box of 20 Win. 270 bullets before Obama's ammo tax, 6.00 now after the tax laws, 17.00

thats enough said in my mind to prove he doesnt like gun owners.

spence 02-12-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy (Post 920436)
A box of 20 Win. 270 bullets before Obama's ammo tax, 6.00 now after the tax laws, 17.00

thats enough said in my mind to prove he doesnt like gun owners.

What is Obama's ammo tax?

I think you're confused.
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The Dad Fisherman 02-12-2012 07:53 PM

FactCheck.org : 500 Percent Ammo Tax?

justplugit 02-12-2012 09:49 PM

Posted 6/29/09?

The Dad Fisherman 02-13-2012 06:14 AM

Shows you how long this rumor has been kicking around.....

Right about the same time as the "Obama Wants your Guns" mindset was around (or probably is still around).

likwid 02-13-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 920130)
Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

I wonder how much Remington/Sturm Ruger/etc paid LaPierre to say that.

buckman 02-13-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 920499)
I wonder how much Remington/Sturm Ruger/etc paid LaPierre to say that.

Why would they waste the money, if what you claim, with zero to back it up, is true???
Maybe the "Fast and Furious" program can be used to show that he wants more guns on the streets.

justplugit 02-13-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 920531)
Maybe the "Fast and Furious" program can be used to show that he wants more guns on the streets.

LOL Buck,tears in my eyes. :hihi:

likwid 02-15-2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 920531)
Why would they waste the money, if what you claim, with zero to back it up, is true???

Do you know where the NRA gets most of its lobbying money?

Here's a hint.
Not its members.

I know, its hard to stomach, I know you're feeling sick and you want to scream "LEAVE THE NRA ALONE!" but its ok, just accept the fact that they're just another lobbying group with more interest in itself and big corp than you.

It'll be OK, I promise.

buckman 02-15-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likwid (Post 920955)
Do you know where the NRA gets most of its lobbying money?

Here's a hint.
Not its members.

I know, its hard to stomach, I know you're feeling sick and you want to scream "LEAVE THE NRA ALONE!" but its ok, just accept the fact that they're just another lobbying group with more interest in itself and big corp than you.

It'll be OK, I promise.

4.3 million members...I'm not one of them. Back up what you spew!

likwid 02-15-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 920959)
4.3 million members...I'm not one of them. Back up what you spew!

Wayne LaPierre Falsely Claims "All" The NRA's Money Comes From Small Donors | Media Matters for America
Yawn.

Since 2005, corporations--gun related and other--have contributed between $19.8 million and $52.6 million to the NRA as detailed in its Ring of Freedom corporate giving program. In a promotional brochure for the program, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre promises that the "National Rifle Association's newly expanded Corporate Partners Program is an opportunity for corporations to partner with the NRA....This program is geared toward your company's corporate interests."


"Corporate Partner Program" is a nice clean way of saying "We take lobbying money"

Isn't it so nice sounding?

You think corporations sponsor groups like the NRA out of the goodness of their heart?


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