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Pete F. 03-28-2020 09:34 PM

Justify this
 
Honest question: Why would Trump float a tri-state quarantine, cause panic & confusion in those states, and then announce he’s not doing it?
In the face of the biggest national crisis in decades, what is the strategy in that?

spence 03-28-2020 09:35 PM

He learned it by being a game show host, I’m surprised we didn’t have a special episode for the reveal.
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Sea Dangles 03-29-2020 07:32 AM

It’s just another case of the most transparent president in history thinking out loud. He has big shoulders. America 1st.
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Nebe 03-29-2020 07:50 AM

Fear = control.
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Nebe 03-29-2020 07:52 AM

Also.. the number one negotiation tactic is to ask for far more than you really want so you can negotiate away things to get you exactly where you need to be and let the other party walk away feeling like they won something.
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Sea Dangles 03-29-2020 07:52 AM

Don’t let the media scare you.
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scottw 03-29-2020 08:54 AM

it's fun to watch their twisted little minds at work each day:conf:

PaulS 03-29-2020 09:40 AM

BC he isn't prepared, lacks critical thinking, bases his opinion on who he hears last, is not disciplined enough to stick to the script and doesn't understand that his words matter

Jim in CT 03-29-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1189336)
BC he isn't prepared, lacks critical thinking, bases his opinion on who he hears last, is not disciplined enough to stick to the script and doesn't understand that his words matter

do results matter more than words, for an executive?
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PaulS 03-29-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1189346)
do results matter more than words, for an executive?
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yes I could totally overlooked his words if we had good results but he made things worse with his constant lying down playing the playing virus. And then his administration screwed up the tests. How many lies did the incompetence of this Administration cost
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Jim in CT 03-29-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1189351)
yes I could totally overlooked his words if we had good results but he made things worse with his constant lying down playing the playing virus. And then his administration screwed up the tests. How many lies did the incompetence of this Administration cost
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right, downplaying. he restricted travel from
china on day one and was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so.

so back then, he did too much. now, he didn’t do enough. it would
be nice if the tds wing could
at least get their stories straight.

it doesn’t matter what he does, you all spin it as ineffective and evil.

60% of americans approve of the way he's handling it.
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wdmso 03-29-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1189355)
right, downplaying. he restricted travel from
china on day one and was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so.

so back then, he did too much. now, he didn’t do enough. it would
be nice if the tds wing could
at least get their stories straight.

it doesn’t matter what he does, you all spin it as ineffective and evil.

60% of americans approve of the way he's handling it.
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President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration.

Jim in CT 03-29-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1189357)
President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration.

a huge, huge number of people agree with that statement.

MSNBC said trump should be charged with a crime for every american who dies. that’s not crazy.

wdmso, more than 10,000 americans died from H1N1 when obama was potus. you tell
me, how much less press did that get? who blamed obama for responding slowly?
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PaulS 03-29-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1189355)
right, downplaying. he restricted travel from
china on day one and was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so.

so back then, he did too much. now, he didn’t do enough. it would
be nice if the tds wing could
at least get their stories straight.

it doesn’t matter what he does, you all spin it as ineffective and evil.

60% of americans approve of the way he's handling it.
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A good article how they screwed up the testing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/u...-pandemic.html

scottw 03-29-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1189365)
A good article how they screwed up the testing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/u...-pandemic.html

paul...ny times has a paywall and only an idiot pays for the garbage in the ny times :D

Sea Dangles 03-29-2020 01:04 PM

🙀
#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& bible
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scottw 03-29-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1189306)
Honest question: Why would Trump float a tri-state quarantine, cause panic & confusion in those states, and then announce he’s not doing it?
In the face of the biggest national crisis in decades, what is the strategy in that?

appears as though you and president Cuomo overreacted....just listened to our Gina very politely but firmly spank president Cuomo and send him to the corner for a timeout....

Pete F. 03-29-2020 02:33 PM

Bet that Ezpass could track the surge in traffic after he blurted that
The team covered for him again
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Got Stripers 03-29-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1189355)
right, downplaying. he restricted travel from
china on day one and was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so.

so back then, he did too much. now, he didn’t do enough. it would
be nice if the tds wing could
at least get their stories straight.

it doesn’t matter what he does, you all spin it as ineffective and evil.

60% of americans approve of the way he's handling it.
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Boy you are so stuck on the one thing Trump did, but completely ignoring the multiple mistakes following and the terrible messaging that still has people thinking this is all media driven.

wdmso 03-29-2020 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1189360)
a huge, huge number of people agree with that statement.

MSNBC said trump should be charged with a crime for every american who dies. that’s not crazy.

wdmso, more than 10,000 americans died from H1N1 when obama was potus. you tell
me, how much less press did that get? who blamed obama for responding slowly?
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So because people believe Trump that statments true, wow and can we wait for this to be over before you compare things that aren't remotely the same . Read this its spot on

The president will try to blame someone else—but in this case the “someone else” is a virus, not a Mexican immigrant or a reporter with a disability, not a Muslim or a Clinton, not a dead war hero or a family of a fallen soldier, not a special counsel or an NFL player who kneels for the national anthem. He will try to use this crisis to pit one party against the other—but the virus will kill both Republicans and Democrats. He will try to create an alternate story to distract

Its allready working on you
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spence 03-29-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1189394)
Boy you are so stuck on the one thing Trump did, but completely ignoring the multiple mistakes following and the terrible messaging that still has people thinking this is all media driven.

Not to mention he’s still wrong about most of it and not is clinging to a single poll taken when the reported infections in the US were 4-6 thousand.
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scottw 03-29-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1189397)

Not to mention he’s still wrong about most of it and not is clinging to a single poll taken when the reported infections in the US were 4-6 thousand.

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he's trying to take your title - King of Wrong...watch out :shocked:

Sea Dangles 03-29-2020 03:53 PM

Lots of gibberish from Jeff the daydrinker today.👍🏿
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spence 03-29-2020 04:03 PM

Guys, please, you’re hurting me.
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Pete F. 03-29-2020 04:19 PM

I actually checked three times to make sure this wasn’t one of those parody Trump accounts before posting this. It’s hard to believe that given all that is going on ratings are still job #1 for him. Only the favorable parts are included by Trump* The red is what was skipped in those paragraphs, the blue is where they skipped the body of the article.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
“President Trump is a ratings hit,and some journalists and public health experts say that could be a dangerous thing. Since reviving the daily White House briefing— a practice abandoned last year by an administration that bristles at outside scrutiny — Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ And the Numbers are continuing to rise..., driven by intense concern about the virus and the housebound status of millions of Americans who are practicing social distancing.
...On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — ‘Monday Night Football’ numbers. Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites(Because of the way Nielsen ratings are measured, reliable numbers are available only for cable news.), and the audience is expanding And the audience is expanding even as Mr. Trump has repeatedly delivered information that doctors and public health officials have called ill informed, misleading or downright wrong.. There are ten paragraphs skipped between the prior and this. On Monday, Fox News...
...alone attracted 6.2 million viewers for the president’s briefing — an astounding number for a 6 p.m. cable broadcast, more akin to the viewership for a popular prime-time sitcom...This past weekend, Fox News recorded its highest weekend viewership since its 2003 coverage of the gulf war.
...Americans’ trust in the news media is also split along partisan lines.The CBS News poll said 13 percent of Republicans trusted the news media for information about the virus.” versus 72 percent of Democrats.Michael M. Grynbaum @NYTimes

Here's his recent victim tweet by the Stable Genius on fake reporting, sounds like he is saying he shouldn't be trusted.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Such Fake reporting by the @nytimes, @washingtonpost, @CNN & others. They use a small portion of a sentence out of a full paragraph in order to demean. They really are corrupt and disgusting. No wonder the media is, according to polls, record setting low & untrusted.

Pete F. 03-29-2020 04:54 PM

The claim "I stopped it" by stopping flights and the accompanying lies about complaints about that are fake news at best. I'm only slightly surprised that John Baron has yet to make an appearance, though I think there is a possibility he lives in CT.

This is only based on publicly available information, the intelligence that was provided to the President and is being concealed by the administration will tell a much more damning story.

January 3, 2020: The CDC is first alerted to a public health event in Wuhan, China (This fact was revealed publicly later by HHS Secretary Alex Azar.)

January 6, 2020: The CDC issues a travel notice for Wuhan due to the spreading coronavirus.

Note: The Trump campaign claims that this marks the beginning of the federal government disease control experts becoming aware of the virus. It was 10 weeks from this point until the week of March 16 when Trump began to change his tone on the threat.

January 8, 2020: The CDC issues an official health advisory about COVID-19.

January 10, 2020: Former Trump Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert warns that we shouldn’t “jerk around with ego politics” because “we face a global health threat…Coordinate!”

January 18, 2020: After two weeks of attempts, HHS Secretary Alex Azar finally gets the chance to speak to Trump about the virus. The president redirects the conversation to vaping, according to the Washington Post.

January 20, 2020: First U.S. case is reported in Washington state.

January 21, 2020: Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease at the CDC tells reporters, “We do expect additional cases in the United States.”

January 27, 2020: Top White House aides meet with Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney to encourage greater focus on the threat from the virus. Joe Grogan, head of the White House Domestic Policy Council warns that “dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.”

January 28, 2020: Two former Trump administration officials—Gottlieb and Borio—publish an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal imploring the president to “Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic.” They advocate a 4-point plan to address the coming crisis:

(1) Expand testing to identify and isolate cases.
Note: This did not happen for many weeks. The first time more than 2,000 tests were deployed in a single day was not until almost six weeks later, on March 11.
(2) Boost flu vaccination efforts to reduce the load on hospitals.
(3) Prepare hospital units for isolation with more gowns and masks.
Note: There was no dramatic ramp-up in the production of critical supplies undertaken. As a result, many hospitals quickly experienced shortages of critical PPE materials.
(4) Vaccine development.

January 30, 2020: Dr. James Hamblin publishes another warning about critical PPE materials in the Atlantic, titled “We Don’t Have Enough Masks.” At the time, it was clear that mask shortages would be a serious problem. Other countries coping with COVID-19 were already running short on masks and ordering them from America and, in addition, almost the entire CDC stockpile had been consumed during the 2009 flu season.

January 31, 2020: Trump puts into action a temporary travel ban on China.

This has been the centerpiece of his claim to have responded to the coronavirus. But even here, the truth is somewhat different.

Trump’s Chinese travel ban only banned “foreign nationals who had been in China in the last 14 days.” This wording did not—at all—stop people from arriving in America from China. In fact, for much of the crisis, flights from China landed in America almost daily filled with people who had been in China, but did not fit the category as Trump’s “travel ban” defined it.

Pete F. 03-29-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1189366)
paul...ny times has a paywall and only an idiot pays for the garbage in the ny times :D

There are foolish comments and stupid comments, you qualify for both with that one.

WASHINGTON — Early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America against the coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House Situation Room, consumed by crises. They grappled with how to evacuate the United States consulate in Wuhan, China, ban Chinese travelers and extract Americans from the Diamond Princess and other cruise ships.

The members of the coronavirus task force typically devoted only five or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing, several participants recalled. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.

But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives.

The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.

scottw 03-29-2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1189416)
There are foolish comments and stupid comments, you qualify for both with that one.

WASHINGTON — Early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America against the coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House Situation Room, consumed by crises. They grappled with how to eva



See...your cut and paste proves my point
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Pete F. 03-29-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1189426)
See...your cut and paste proves my point
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How's your math.......Everything Trump* touches dies

Sea Dangles 03-29-2020 09:33 PM

He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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