Alexandria Cortez is a GENIUS
 

She sure showed Amazon. Thanks to her bitching and complaining, Amazon isn't building their second headquarters in New York.

25,000 jobs, with an average annual salary of $150,000. Works out to $3.75B in taxable income flowing into that area, every year. Money that will be taxed, money that will be spent, money that will be used to shop and buy lunch in the area where te office would have been.

The fact is, Amazon doesn't need tax subsidies. And I don't like corporate welfare, I don't like governments picking winners and losers in the business world. But the other fact is, this is how the world works. Amazon would be stupid not to seek the best deal it can get.

So because Cortez is so brilliant and so principled, this part of New York misses out on annual taxable revenue of 3.75B being pumped into the local economy. At a time when the governor just bemoaned the states deficits (which he blamed on Trump).

Where does she suppose the money comes from, to pay for things like the Green New Deal?

Yes, she sure showed Amazon!

Do you really think Amazon cares one whip about what she thinks?

Well, she was happy about the loss

"Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world. https://t.co/nyvm5vtH9k"

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 14, 2019

This made me laugh today...

I don't know. Neither do you.

I know that Amazon picked Queens, I know she never stopped attacking Amazon, and now Amazon is pulling out, and they say it's because of political hostility.

Good for her! Her constituents don't need no stinkin' $3.75 billion per year...

Maybe you could convince them to go to Connecticut. Life seems to be purely transactional in your eyes.
Technology was not a great deal for people who lived in Seattle who can no longer afford to live there.
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If they even CONSIDERED CT, I would sell all my Amazon stock,

"Technology was not a great deal for people who lived in Seattle who can no longer afford to live there"

So why did so many areas kill themselves to put in a bid to get this Amazon office?

Remember when you claimed they where only looking at conservative areas - and yet they ended up in VA and NY.

No I don't recall that, but if I did, I was totally wrong, at least temporarily. NYC is unique in terms of attracting business, obviously.

VA isn't die-hard liberal.

the governor was whining THIS WEEK about tax receipts decreasing ( and he blamed Trump and FL, but couldn’t admit that NY is causing any of this), and then Amazon walks away.
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Wonder if it had anything to do with the 3 billion dollars of incentives they were offered.
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Cuomo was complaining about the SALT cap that was designed to hurt wealthy New Yorkers.
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They have got to be including Bezo’s salary for this to be true —> 25,000 jobs, with an average annual salary of $150,000
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this is hilarious.....

yes it does. andnthat would
have been an incredible investment. salaries alone would
be 3.75b a year, plus god knows how
much to construct the complex.

i don’t like corporate welfare. but it’s a bargain to get 25,000 jobs with average salary of 150k. let’s see what that neighborhood looks like i’m 20 years, compares to the neighborhood that gets it.

Cuomo is foaming at the mouth that they pulled out.

25,000 upper
middle class jobs. when you elect a Maoist with an IQ of 85, this is what you get.
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that’s backwards.

allowing the full deduction of SALT taxes, means people
in well run states pay higher federal
taxes, to pay for the deduction that is only available to people in high tax states. why should
people in NH and FL pay higher federal income tax, because the people
who run CT and IL and NJ are morons?

high taxes aren’t inevitable. it’s a choice. if you look at the financial health of states, it looks like a good choice. are CT and NY and NI and IL drowning in surplus, are people
moving to those states in big numbers?
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nope.

25,000 jobs, average salary of 150k. that’s what Cortez was opposed to. Brilliant.
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Perhaps NYC could have been as great as San Francisco
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Cortez was upset that amazon wouldn’t guarantee enough jobs to residents of a specific poor housing project. so now none of them will get anything.

Hooray!!!

how are they better off without this project? liberal democrat governor cuomo said tax revenues would have been tens of
billions.
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your point is what? it’s bad when technology companies reside in a town? the insane liberal
policies enabling homelessness, drug use, and public defacatiom, have nothing to do with it? it’s all silicon valleys fault?

how many places put bids in for this office? you know better than the people
who run all those places? wow!!! why aren’t you doing urban planning in distressed areas? think of the benefit your acumen could
provide!!!
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Kevin...

I’m not buying 25K jobs averaging $150K. That falls into the if it sounds too good to be true pile.
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that’s what amazon was promising. the governor of NY believed them.
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you conveniently left out Nashville, Nashville was the other big winner. amazon originally picked a conservative place, a middle of the road place, and a liberal place.
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Nashville got the smallest amount by far.
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What position does she have in New York city politics? If anyone should be yelled at it should be Generas. But that doesn't fit the agenda so most won't mention him.
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she’s very, very influential right now ( and i sincerely love it). she was one of the commies leadingbthe charge against it. she didn’t want wealthy people
(150k isn’t very wealthy there) changing the projects, so she’s getting what she wanted, those projects will
get zero lift.

Does she understand the concept that stuff has to be paid for? where does she think the money comes from? that’s theres some limitless atm out there, that we can use as much as we want, as long as our intentions are good?

she’s a child. a not-very-bright child. you want to see the difference between educated and smart, she’s it.
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Just like Mahty Walsh believed the BS GE promised for Fort Point in Boston.
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Yeah... that has been interesting this week.

This was not a great look for AOC. There may be reasons to be against the Amazon expansion but it was not a win-win to be celebrated.
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Now she is a commie. Tough to keep up with all the insults and name calling that you do.

hyperbole paul. a little bit of hyperbole. not a whole
lot of daylight between communism
and what the green new deal would
require.

she’s precious. but to you, she has no flaws worth discussing, your issue is with me for laughing at her. you don’t mind her writing laws and crafting budgets, but you object to me making fun of her for being a laughingstock. good for you.
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Minor character. If she and the woman from Minn? want to be treated seriously they need to tread lightly instead of throwing bombshells. she is naive and while I didn't read the green deal thing I would view it more as a target to aim for rather than something we need to do w/in 10 years. Needs to understand w/today's environment she needs to watch everything she says and does bf putting it out there.

Her 70% tax rate got some traction.

"Minor character"

On paper, in theory, she should be a minor character. But she wields a ton of influence, because her wing of the party (the progressive socialist wing) is where the national party is going. She drafted an absolute laughingstock of a green new deal, and I think every democrat presidential nominee endorsed it.

"If she and the woman from Minn? want to be treated seriously they need to tread lightly "

I view them very differently. Cortez is an energetic, young person who wants to serve, I respect that, I just think her ideas are a joke. But I think she's harmless. Omar in MN, looks to me like a Jew hater who absolutely despises the principles the country was founded upon. She is deranged and extremely dangerous, in my opinion. I get why someone like Cortez got elected, I can't fathom how anyone not in ISIS could elect Omar to anything. I don't know I've ever seen anyone more alarming in Congress. But thankfully, (to me) she doesn't have the influence that Cortez has.

"Needs to understand w/today's environment she needs to watch everything she says and does bf putting it out there. "

She would do well to have you advising her.

"Her 70% tax rate got some traction"

It did. I think our taxes can be more progressive at the upper levels. I wouldn't go as high as 70%, and I'd also go after capital gains and dividends, that's where the money is for the really wealthy, as opposed to ordinary income.

Go rent a place to live in Manhattan, park slope, Cambridge and see what gentrification has done. Just what do you think the problem in SF is, oh I know it’s liberals. The place should be like Oklahoma or someplace controlled by the right, no issues in those places they buy them tickets to SF
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Fixed it for you.

"Just what do you think the problem in SF is, oh I know it’s liberals."

That's part of it, is it not? Gentrification can also go too far. That doesn't mean that poor communities would benefit from laws that prohibit rich people from moving in.

Most of life is about balance. KS went too far with consevative tax cuts, it failed. CT has been a 40 year experiment in pure liberalism, it has also failed. What are the places that are booming, where upper middle class people are flocking to in huge numbers? There's Boston, which is big and liberal but still a great, well-run city. Most other booming places seem to lean right - TX, TN, Carolinas, FL. Many cities in NH can't build $500,000 houses fast enough. CT, which SHOULD BE a place that people are competing to get into, is shrinking. There is a reason for that.

"The place should be like Oklahoma ".

Once again, responding to something no one ever said. But there ARE places out there, thriving suburbs (which need a nearby job center) where families are flocking to in huge numbers. The 2 that are probably the most hot lately right now, are the suburbs of Nashville and the suburbs of Charlotte. There are plenty of crappy places near those cities. But there are some well-run places near those cities, with very low taxes, and a very high quality of life. It can be done. I have first hand experience with Franklin TN and Fort Mill SC.

Pete, how many liberal places are there, which have a very high quality of life, and a very low cost of living? Are there any? The suburbs of Nashville and Charlotte are right-leaning. CT has exactly zero places to live, which are (1) beautiful family places, and (2) cheap. None. Zip. Zilch. How come?

We just had 8 years of a Dem. gov. (Malloy) and 8 years prior of Rep gov (Roland - who went to jail and Rell). During which period did spending go up the biggest %? Did the Rep. gov. leave a bigger rainy day fund or did the Dem?

Edit - You're big on complaining about pensions. What did the Rep gov. do about the benefits (pension/health care, etc) vs Malloy?

As usual anything that is bad is liberal.
I think what drives regional economies is not just left or right and to say so is simplistic, just look at your examples of Boston and Nashville.

What makes suburbs beautiful in your eyes is beyond me and I do know something about suburbs and growth. I grew up in the fastest growing place in the US in the 50s and 60s. Suburbia is not the greatest place in my eyes. I could blindfold you and take you to most any suburb in the US and you would feel right at home with Applybees, Olive Garden, the chain drugstore, supermarket, Walmart and Home Depot, the same crap in people's yards and they better be up to your standards of neatness. If that is your idea of utopia, it's pretty sad.
But all of life is simple in your eyes, just pass a law that says you can't: #^&#^&#^&#^& in the street, do drugs, be homeless, not make enough money and when they don't comply just lock them up and get them out of sight. Welcome to the Middle class dream of the 60s, that got us to where we are today.

Yes, we've had Republican governors, who didn't do ANYTHING fiscally conservative, either because they didn't believe it or because the liberal legislatures wouldn't let them. Either way, the state's economic landscape is purely liberal, and has ZERO conse3rvative footprint. We have massive taxes, and even more massive spending, thanks to labor unions. Is that a conservative tactic, or a liberal tactic?

"Did the Rep. gov. leave a bigger rainy day fund or did the Dem?"

Malloy rammed TWO massive income tax hikes down our throats, and the state's debt and deficits are higher. Our credit rating has been downgraded multiple times under Malloy. The rainy day fund is because of tax receipts related to the stock market, which means it's thanks to Obama and Trump and the feds. Nothing to do with state policies. We're looking at multi-billion dollar deficits for the next two years, as always, despite the fact that the national economy is booming. Our real estate prices haven't recovered from the recession at the national pace, nor has unemployment. We're dying. We are in a self-perpetuating cycle of higher expenses (thanks to union benefits locked in by contracts) and declining revenues (people are leaving to avoid the collapse. But we have a rainy day fund, so to you, all is well.

"What did the Rep gov. do about the benefits (pension/health care, etc) vs Malloy?"

All governors have made it worse in my lifetime. Malloy extended the state's debt term out for many years, so kids not born yet will be asked to pay for things they had no say in. Hooray!!

Roland and Rell were complete disasters. They also did NOTHING conservative. Nothing.

You're so bound to ideology, that you deny our state's economic situation? How big do you think that rainy day fund is? Because the long term debt is many tens of billions of dollars.

We are at an inflection point, where higher tax rates lead to less revenue collected, because people are leaving. The liberal response? Tolls! Hooray! Never mind we have an astronomical gas tax already, which was specifically implemented to replace tolls. But now we need both.

How do you Kool Aid drinkers suppose things get the way they are in the suburbs of Nashville or Charlotte, compared to here?

We know its possible to offer citizens a high quality of life with low taxes. There is no debating that. It's irrefutable fact. There are places like that. Exactly none of them, are in CT?

Good luck making that wrong.

70 miles away in NH, there is no income tax or sales tax. And those places look even better now, with the limitation on deducting SALT taxes. Which means more people will leave, which means less revenue, which means higher tax rates on the patsies who stay.

Why is it that the majority of press photos of her have that "I'm not crazy I tell you, I've been tested numerous times!" look?

She could be the new face of "Bat Sheet crazy anonymous"...

I'm so bound by ideology? :jump:

You're the one who started this and yet can't answer any of the questions w/o dodging but will going to continue to blame the Dems. w/o really researching anything.

You really need to move (and get your family to move since you are staying for them) bc you obviously hate it here. Move to NH or somewhere very conservative - like that conservative utopia KY. Enjoy