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Sea Dangles 12-06-2019 07:38 PM

Latest poll
 
Shows Dems failed to provide enough to impeach. Couple this with Trumps surging numbers and the local nuts must be sleepless. A party without a compass will go in circles

spence 12-06-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1181341)
Shows Dems failed to provide enough to impeach. Couple this with Trumps surging numbers and the local nuts must be sleepless. A party without a compass will go in circles

No source. Good to see you’re scared.
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Jim in CT 12-06-2019 07:54 PM

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No source. Good to see you’re scared.
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You know he's not scared. He has no reason to be. Trump isn't going to get removed, and your side is fielding candidates with no wide appeal. I thought Biden was formidable, but calling a voter in Iowa "fat" and challenging him to a pushup contest, may not play well. That, and his admission that he likes it when young boys rub his leg hair...yeesh.

Sea Dangles 12-06-2019 08:09 PM

Many of the polls also show they do not want an impeachment.
Gallup
Monmouth
Quinnipiac
USA Today
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Sea Dangles 12-06-2019 08:10 PM

Poor Jeff , he has a difficult time acknowledging these truths.
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scottw 12-07-2019 05:49 AM

Representative Max Rose (D., N.Y.) pushed back Friday on efforts to include evidence from the Mueller Report in articles of impeachment against President Trump, saying that he “was very serious” when previously warning against impeaching Trump based on Mueller’s evidence.

“I was against going through with the impeachment previous to this Ukraine matter,” Rose told CNN. “So with the understanding that I’m not going to entertain any hypotheticals, I was very serious when I came out and said that.”

Earlier this week, Rose said he would wait to see the articles before deciding if he’d vote to impeach.





Rep. Collin Peterson (D)Minnesota

After his "no" vote, Peterson said in a statement that the process "continues to be hopelessly partisan."

"I have some serious concerns with the way the closed-door depositions were run, and am skeptical that we will have a process that is open, transparent and fair. Without support from Senate Republicans, going down this path is a mistake," Peterson said.

Peterson said in September that impeachment would further polarize the country.

“If anyone thinks a partisan impeachment process would constrain President Trump, they are fooling themselves. Without significant bipartisan support, impeachment proceedings will be a lengthy and divisive action with no resolution,” Peterson said in a statement.

Raider Ronnie 12-07-2019 06:22 AM

GREATEST PRESIDENT OF OUR LIFETIME 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍


I do have a few issues with our President Donald Trump.


This economy is so good (BEST OF OUR LIFETIME) that sitting in traffic is a daily thing because record numbers of vehicles are on the roads going to work every day and add in the fact price of gas & diesel has been low and stable, not bouncing up & down

Trying to go to a restaurant for dinner (any day of the week) long lines and waiting list for a table 🤭

Every where I drive there is unsightly construction going on. I go into Boston and cranes everywhere blocking the view of the city skyline 🤭

Rmarsh 12-07-2019 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1181353)
GREATEST PRESIDENT OF OUR LIFETIME 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍


I do have a few issues with our President Donald Trump.


This economy is so good (BEST OF OUR LIFETIME) that sitting in traffic is a daily thing because record numbers of vehicles are on the roads going to work every day and add in the fact price of gas & diesel has been low and stable, not bouncing up & down

Trying to go to a restaurant for dinner (any day of the week) long lines and waiting list for a table 🤭

Every where I drive there is unsightly construction going on. I go into Boston and cranes everywhere blocking the view of the city skyline 🤭


Ronnie....I have worked building homes for over 45 years. Right now the demand for new homes is as high as I have ever seen it. We are working like mad trying to keep up. Customers are not hesitating because they know if they dont buy..someone else will.
Obviously it is the very strong economy driving this buying.

Most all the guys I work with, (except those with questionable legal status) support the President and his policies.

wdmso 12-07-2019 08:20 AM

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/

Unlike dangles linkless offering this poll is 47 for and 43 against

But unlike the Trump fan club and Republicans who see any poll suggesting against impeachment.

As some kind of an affirmation of Trump and his conduct.. is based in fantasies.. their selling a narritave if he gets impeached anyone who was against it are magically going to be outraged and vote Republican..

Funny to see the data Republicans once called fake. They now embrace
Dems thought poll were right in 2016 ..

Heres a poll you'll call fake

President Donald Trump is unpopular. In fact, through 1,048 days, his average approval rating is back to being the very worst of the polling-era presidents. According to FiveThirtyEight, he’s at 41.6
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Sea Dangles 12-07-2019 09:42 AM

Once again you have overlooked the fact that he is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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JohnR 12-07-2019 10:57 AM

If only the Dems could run a true moderate :hs:

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1181353)
GREATEST PRESIDENT OF OUR LIFETIME 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

No he's not :rotflmao:

There are going to be negative order of effects probably approaching Jimmy Carter level (and you panty bunchers, Trump in some ways is an Obama failure :laughs: ).

But I am still not convinced this is near as bad as a Hillary Admin.

Got Stripers 12-07-2019 12:05 PM

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Once again you have overlooked the fact that he is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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Gee wiz, we haven’t heard that broken record enough, but it’s no surprise to hear that party line. You have your opinion, it in no way makes it so, I’d give him decent marks for holding on to a strong economy, but at a big expense that we all will have to pay later; this administration just like other keeps spending beyond its means.

I’d give him low marks on foreign affairs, he has emboldened Putin and legitimized NK without getting a damn thing in return and Syria and Middle East handling is beyond pour.

Environmental policies are a complete fail, but maybe your kids children can find a new planet to live on in the suburbs.

For a guy that claimed to get in to solve the immigration problem, he has just made a big fat mess of it, the problem expanding under his administration.

If he is the best ever, why do all the truly quality people run for the door after a short visit to the circus and we are left with countless temporary appointments and a nut job rogue lawyer handling foreign policy.

If all you care about is your bank account and a lower tax bill if your a higher earner, then your narrow vision sees what it’s capable of seeing, nothing off to the side or in the future.
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Sea Dangles 12-07-2019 12:22 PM

I appreciate your opinion.👍🏽
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detbuch 12-07-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1181381)
Gee wiz, we haven’t heard that broken record enough, but it’s no surprise to hear that party line. You have your opinion, it in no way makes it so, I’d give him decent marks for holding on to a strong economy, but at a big expense that we all will have to pay later; this administration just like other keeps spending beyond its means.

He is not "holding on" to a strong economy. He changed some of the things that he had power over which were holding the economy back, namely lowering taxes and eliminating a lot of economy choking regulations. Without that, we might be still "holding on" to a weak economy, or worse.

I’d give him low marks on foreign affairs, he has emboldened Putin and legitimized NK without getting a damn thing in return and Syria and Middle East handling is beyond pour.

I had an involuntary short burst of laughter reading that. Putin has always been a bold authoritarian. He invaded Ukraine during the previous administration. He constantly tested the West. NK was always been "legitimate." It didn't get any more so during Trump's era. He has harassed it more the most other Presidents. I'm not seeing a greater threat from nor a more burning mess in he Middle East now than during the previous administration. It actually seems to be quieter.

Environmental policies are a complete fail, but maybe your kids children can find a new planet to live on in the suburbs.

Our environment is fine. We are not in charge of every one else's.

For a guy that claimed to get in to solve the immigration problem, he has just made a big fat mess of it, the problem expanding under his administration.

I thought the number of border crossings is down,

If he is the best ever, why do all the truly quality people run for the door after a short visit to the circus and we are left with countless temporary appointments and a nut job rogue lawyer handling foreign policy.

They are replaced with other quality people who don't try to undermine him.

If all you care about is your bank account and a lower tax bill if your a higher earner, then your narrow vision sees what it’s capable of seeing, nothing off to the side or in the future.
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The whole spectrum of our society is doing better. If you're concerned about the national debt all of a sudden, it had already been unsustainable under normal conditions. The only way to have brought it under control is cut a lot of program spending and limit the federal government to only programs that are allowed to it under the Constitution, and to allow the economy enough freedom to produce enough wealth to create the revenue necessary to actually make payments on the debt rather than only on the interest.

Trump's main contribution to the spending problem was the money for the military. That is actually a constitutionally legitimate expenditure. And it was so large because the military had been underfunded. He is not as gung ho about the other giveaways that have been the hallmark of federal spending, though he may have given away a few goodies that he shouldn't. But he has fulfilled a great deal of what is needed to increase government revenue without crushing taxes that would shrink the overall economy.

Got Stripers 12-07-2019 01:06 PM

Never would guessed that would be your blue man group response, predictable and you of course are entitled to your opinion and it to doesn’t make it so.
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wdmso 12-07-2019 03:01 PM

If he is the best ever, why do all the truly quality people run for the door after a short visit to the circus and we are left with countless temporary appointments and a nut job rogue lawyer handling foreign policy.

They are replaced with other quality people who don't try to undermine him.



this is the funniest and scariest post of the day

Got Stripers 12-07-2019 03:12 PM

They are the best group of boot lickers EVER!
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Sea Dangles 12-07-2019 04:33 PM

Thanks for sharing
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Pete F. 12-07-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1181345)
Many of the polls also show they do not want an impeachment.
Gallup
Monmouth
Quinnipiac
USA Today
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In the spring of 1974, despite the indictment of top former White House aides, and Nixon’s release of what were seen as “heavily edited” transcripts of tapes of his aides plotting to get White House enemies, the public was still divided over what to do about the president. For example, by June, 44% in the Gallup Poll thought he should be removed from office, while 41% disagreed.

Only in early August, following the House Judiciary Committee’s recommendation in July that Nixon be impeached and the Supreme Court’s decision that he surrender his audio tapes, did a clear majority – 57% – come to the view that the president should be removed from office.
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detbuch 12-07-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1181386)
Never would guessed that would be your blue man group response, predictable and you of course are entitled to your opinion and it to doesn’t make it so.
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I'm no less consistent than you. Don't know why you'd expect something different.

detbuch 12-07-2019 07:59 PM

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this is the funniest and scariest post of the day

I was born on holloween.

The Dad Fisherman 12-07-2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1181406)
In the spring of 1974, despite the indictment of top former White House aides, and Nixon’s release of what were seen as “heavily edited” transcripts of tapes of his aides plotting to get White House enemies, the public was still divided over what to do about the president. For example, by June, 44% in the Gallup Poll thought he should be removed from office, while 41% disagreed.

Only in early August, following the House Judiciary Committee’s recommendation in July that Nixon be impeached and the Supreme Court’s decision that he surrender his audio tapes, did a clear majority – 57% – come to the view that the president should be removed from office.
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But, but, Nixon :rolleyes:
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Pete F. 12-08-2019 05:41 AM

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But, but, Nixon :rolleyes:
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Something some people would do well to remember.
History, more apt to repeat than not.
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Sea Dangles 12-08-2019 09:01 AM

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Something some people would do well to remember.
History, more apt to repeat than not.
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You must have a lot in common with history.
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wdmso 12-08-2019 09:32 AM

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But, but, Nixon :rolleyes:
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but but Hilary or biden seeing hearing facts dont seem to work I doubt reading them will work any better .... but lets Try anyway :btu:

Got Stripers 12-08-2019 09:40 AM

Your talking to a wall, they don’t care, the means justify the end; no matter how much corruption is involved. If this were happening in the private sector, they might be fitting him for an orange jump suit, be a perfect match for his face tone.
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Sea Dangles 12-08-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1181431)
Your talking to a wall, they don’t care, the means justify the end; no matter how much corruption is involved. If this were happening in the private sector, they might be fitting him for an orange jump suit, be a perfect match for his face tone.
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Just enjoy the common ground that you share with one another. America 1st sounds good to me!
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The Dad Fisherman 12-08-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1181429)
but but Hilary or biden seeing hearing facts dont seem to work I doubt reading them will work any better .... but lets Try anyway :btu:

Nope, didn't work
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scottw 12-08-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1181431)
Your talking to a wall, they don’t care, the means justify the end; no matter how much corruption is involved. If this were happening in the private sector, they might be fitting him for an orange jump suit, be a perfect match for his face tone.
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Complete nonsense. His was in the private sector for a LONG time and never did any jail time. Try to get a grip
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spence 12-08-2019 01:33 PM

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Complete nonsense. His was in the private sector for a LONG time and never did any jail time. Try to get a grip
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Because his crooked father taught him how to cheat very well...that line is ending.
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scottw 12-08-2019 01:56 PM

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Because his crooked father taught him how to cheat very well...that line is ending.
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More Triggered Nonsense
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Sea Dangles 12-08-2019 05:08 PM

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Because his crooked father taught him how to cheat very well...that line is ending.
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I feel bad that you ended up with this anger. Some day you will look back and understand why He is the greatest president of our lifetime. Enjoy the fruits of His labor.
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scottw 12-09-2019 07:52 AM

dempcraps are working very hard to re-elect him!!!

Jim in CT 12-09-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1181475)
dempcraps are working very hard to re-elect him!!!

they are indeed, and they don’t see it at all. Shhhh...
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Pete F. 12-09-2019 09:17 AM

Floridaman has accomplished little good and his ill considered attempts at policy will have long term effects on our place in the world.

Keep claiming he is a stable genius, he is as far from that as one can get.

When this passes the name Trump will end up in history books, used like Quisling and Benedict Arnold.

Trump’s self-absorption is total; his inability to accurately perceive external reality is profound. Because this renders our president deeply antisocial and anti-historical, his worldview begins and ends with “Trump.”

As a result, he entered office unable to appreciate America’s objective strengths in conducting our foreign relations. These matchless blessings included friendly neighbors; peerless economic vitality; our leadership of important global institutions; the strength of our alliances and multilateral relationships; and a reputation, for all our faults, as a democracy which embraces political freedom and human rights. Encased in his feral inner landscape, Trump saw these assets as vulnerabilities.

Thus Trump’s view of the post-World War II global order is essentially dystopian. The world’s liberal democracies built a system in which America promoted global stability by advocating democracy, free trade, and international institutions which facilitated cooperation and ameliorated conflict. But Trump saw it as trap in which America was played for the sucker by its “allies,” cheated by trading partners, menaced by Muslims, and invaded by foreigners spreading crime and taking jobs.

To repel these presumptive “threats,” Trump offered his own distinctive and boundless grandiosity—casting himself as a one-man solution, a peerless negotiator who would subjugate our foes (frequently, in fact, our allies) through the sheer force of his unique personality. He would make Mexico pay for his wall; seize Syrian oil; rip up unfair trade deals; force those chiselers in NATO to pay up; and exert his will without the trouble of maintaining alliances or exercising considered global statesmanship

Blinded by his insoluble inability to accurately process external reality, Trump had no design for realizing his most fantastical promises—let alone any grasp of the long-term consequences to America stemming from his zero-sum instincts. In his fantasies of greatness, Trump-as-Superman was strategy enough.

For nearly three years, we have seen the consequences of this worldview. He disparages our intelligence agencies when they reach conclusions which displease him. He treats the State Department with contempt, compelling an exodus of career professionals and eviscerating our diplomatic capacity. He replaces the language of democracy with venality and vulgarity, He greets the world’s autocrats as his geopolitical kin. The global image of America has become the gargoyle visage of a bigot and bully.

Inevitably, Trump’s craving for attention and inability to transcend his own impulses leads to verbal incontinence, intellectual incoherence, and contradictory actions. Nor is this likely to change: Trump’s subjective and ever-shifting sense of reality and addiction to instantaneous self-gratification leave him utterly incapable of thinking strategically.

For Trump, there is no strategic through-line. While the Chinese think in epochs, Trump thinks in fragments of news cycles dissociated from each other, his frequently self- cancelling behaviors driven by his oscillating needs of the moment. He threatens North Korea’s dictator with “fire and fury”; then conducts vapid kabuki summits and “falls in love” with Kim Jong-Un’s “beautiful letters.”And when Kim, unimpeded, treats America with accelerating contempt while developing a nuclear arsenal which could eradicate Seattle, Trump browbeats our South Korean allies about the cost of their defense, and compels the Japanese to wonder whether North Korean missile tests will require developing their own nuclear capacity.

In Trump’s mind, he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize; in reality, he has made the region a far more dangerous place.

https://thebulwark.com/trumps-person...oreign-policy/

Sea Dangles 12-09-2019 09:28 AM

Thanks for sharing. The country has a lot to consider.
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Jim in CT 12-09-2019 09:41 AM

Trump has accomplished “little good”.

In which a 50 year low in unemployment, an all time
low in black unemployment, and continuing to rout jihadists, is “little good.”

If Obama was president he’d have won a second Nobel in economics.

He’s also appointing judges who are likely to put personal
agendas aside and use the constitution as he rulebook, rather than using the bench as a platform for activism.

He’s doing a LOT of good. He’s just an unbelievable
jerk.
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Jim in CT 12-09-2019 09:45 AM

Pete, your article says Trump replaces the language of democracy with vulgarity. I agree he’s very very undiplomatic. My question is, so what? What actual harm has this caused? Is Canada going to sign a treaty with the jihadists? Leaders may not
like Trump, but I don’t see any evidence that it changes the way they view America at all. Not in the least.

Everybody said Obama’s apology tour was going to improve our standing in the world, and everyone says that Trump’s “America First” will ruin our relationships with everyone. I see little evidence that either happened.
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Pete F. 12-09-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1181490)
Pete, your article says Trump replaces the language of democracy with vulgarity. I agree he’s very very undiplomatic. My question is, so what? What actual harm has this caused? Is Canada going to sign a treaty with the jihadists? Leaders may not
like Trump, but I don’t see any evidence that it changes the way they view America at all. Not in the least.

Everybody said Obama’s apology tour was going to improve our standing in the world, and everyone says that Trump’s “America First” will ruin our relationships with everyone. I see little evidence that either happened.
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You could have just read the whole article that I linked
but here is some more since you asked.
As far as the "evidence" you require, diplomacy and foreign policy are skills not science, not seeing evidence means you likely need to look beyond right wing media.

Or read a foreign paper: https://www.kyivpost.com/?s=trump&ti...es&authors=all

But these head-spinning spasms of psychic subjectivity aggravate dangers in every corner of the globe. Trump threatens Iran with “obliteration like you’ve never seen before,” then withdraws American troops from Syria, licensing Iran to pursue its goals in the region. He confuses our allies and emboldens our enemies, both of whom understand that his emotional lability translates into geopolitical incompetence. Vladimir Putin can barely conceal his laughter—and sometimes does not try.

Writing in the Atlantic, William Burns summarizes Trump’s dysfunction:

However sound his instincts on some policy issues—such as pushing back against predatory Chinese trade practices—Trump has badly undermined American influence through his erratic unilateralism, disdain for expertise, and obsession with diplomacy as an exercise in narcissism. It is exactly the wrong prescription for this plastic moment in world affairs, when we are no longer the only country calling the shots, and when diplomatic tools to cajole and coerce friends and foes alike are more important than ever.

The results are predictably grim. Partners are insecure and hedging, worrying about the ‘brain death’ of crucial alliances. Adversaries feel the wind in their sails, with Russian state television crowing over dysfunction in Washington and vulnerability in Kyiv. The international landscape is hardening against us, and our diplomatic toolkit is being emptied by design and disuse…

Why shouldn’t authoritarian rivals conclude that the only thing that matters is the vanity of an eminently manipulable president? Why shouldn’t allies lose confidence in the requests of our diplomats when they can be overturned by the next tweet?

Why, indeed?

But there is no one left around Trump to point out these obvious problems. Because he is psychologically unable to abide dissent or respect expertise, Trump has replaced professionals with sycophants—degrading our State Department and demoralizing its best people. The epitome of these enablers is the pompous puppet Mike Pompeo, our shrinking secretary of State, who has survived this long only through abject subservience.

Pompeo is the opposite of James Mattis; he chooses sycophancy to serve himself. In his imagined future, he is not simply a future Republican senator from Kansas, but Trump’s eventual successor. Unlike Trump, Pompeo is sane: quite deliberately, he has catered to Trump’s narcissism, fronting for Trump as he trashes the State Department and repeatedly commits gross political malpractice.

The result of Pompeo’s calculating cowardice is baneful—a dearth of sound advice and institutional engagement which empowers Trump’s mindless solipsism. Pompeo countenanced Trump’s love affair with Kim. He choked down Trump’s betrayal of the Kurds. He watched as Trump publicly contemplated canceling our mutual defense treaty with Japan; threatened to pull U.S. troops out of South Korea; mocked our NATO allies as deadbeats; and dismissed the E.U.

Little wonder that Trump has said “I don’t think I’ve had an argument with Pompeo.” Why would he need to? Pompeo never disagrees with him, thereby encouraging Trump to pretend that the intellectual, moral, and strategic Sahara of his foreign policy is as grand as Trump needs to believe – freeing Trump to do his worst, unimpeded.

But it is Pompeo’s performance with respect to Ukraine which best encapsulates Trump’s degradation of diplomacy and perversion of policy. He stood aside as Trump attempted to blackmail the new Ukranian president into serving his personal political interests, allowing Trump to subcontract the dirty work to Rudy Giuliani. Pompeo licensed Trump to bully and then fire Ambassador Marie Jovanovich. He listened to Trump’s coercive call to President Zelensky, thereby acquiescing in the corruption of American aid. And then, when all this was done, Pompeo pretended to ABC’s Martha Raddatz that he knew nothing about the call before admitting, ten days later, that he had heard it all.

In sum, Mike Pompeo has pretzeled himself to be the flawless lackey Trump demands: spineless, mendacious, unprincipled, and disloyal to his own subordinates. As two seasoned former American diplomats write of Pompeo’s tenure: “At the very least, Pompeo enabled the smear campaign to go unchallenged, acquiesced in the Giuliani back channel with Ukraine and failed to say a word in defense of Bill Taylor, George Kent or Marie Jovanovich. These are breathtaking acts of craven cowardice and beneath the dignity of any Secretary of State.”

All of which perfectly captures the Trump effect: His immutable character disorder moves those who serve him to adopt the corrupt and cowering ethos of minions in a banana republic.

Sea Dangles 12-09-2019 11:47 AM

Thanks PeteF, that clears it all up. Great job and thanks for sharing with us.
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