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quick decision 11-29-2004 05:10 PM

Is the Government going to legalize it?
 
Should it be legalized for medical purposes?

bart 11-29-2004 06:12 PM

yes

BigFish 11-29-2004 06:20 PM

No!:mad:

Vectorfisher 11-29-2004 06:25 PM

In the case of the woman I was watching the other night on TV who could not walk or normally function without it the YES, but there are far too many people who will abuse it so I dunno.

quick decision 11-29-2004 06:30 PM

FDA?
 
What if the FDA says its ok for medical purposes.

I am just throwing it up for discsuion. I am not advicating drug use.

BigFish 11-29-2004 06:32 PM

If people need something to ease the pain of an illness....there are other things they can be prescribed......its just an excuse to smoke it!:smash:

kippy 11-29-2004 06:48 PM

It's an untapped source of revenue for the government..so I say legalize it..
:smokin: :jump:

spence 11-29-2004 07:10 PM

I think widespread medical use is sure to happen. There simply is no credible reason not to.

I doubt you'll see the Feds legalizing recreational pot any time soon. Perhaps in a generation.

Me, I'm against drug use. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go make another double scotch and tonic :rolleyes: ...hic

-spence

bart 11-29-2004 08:18 PM

like taking oxycontin/ demaroll/ morphine/percodan is any better for you?

Nebe 11-29-2004 08:33 PM

Absolutly without a doubt, marijuana should be allowed for medical use. There are so many bogus reasons for it being illegal in the first place. You can bet your botom dollar that all the big drug companies are lobbying hard to keep it illegal.

God gave it to us, why not use it??

NJTackle 11-29-2004 08:34 PM

Legalize it for everyone and tax the hell out of it!!!! :cool:

NJTackle 11-29-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kippy
It's an untapped source of revenue for the government..so I say legalize it..
:smokin: :jump:

Pack of smokes in NJ - $6.50
Pack of smokes in Maryland - $3.00

:confused: Go figure!?!?!?

Raider Ronnie 11-29-2004 08:37 PM

Ricky Williams says YES YES YES YES YES YES YES :laughs:

BigFish 11-29-2004 08:53 PM

I will just let you guys "hash" this one out!:smash:

Slipknot 11-29-2004 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vectorfisher
In the case of the woman I was watching the other night on TV who could not walk or normally function without it the YES, but there are far too many people who will abuse it so I dunno.
every drug that comes along gets abused, so what?
if it helps then I say why not

Nebe 11-29-2004 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
I will just let you guys "hash" this one out!:smash:
stoner :smokin:

Slingah 11-29-2004 10:32 PM

booze is legal and causes many more problems than weed
for medical reasons..legalize it

Karl F 11-29-2004 10:42 PM

NJ Tackle, Slingah, Yup, couldn't agree more.... been sellin' booze for 26 years, know all too well the damage, and down side of that stuff, on the other hand, I know people who been smokin chit forever, and don't have the problems, legal, family, or medical, of the heavy boozers, nicer folk to boot!... know one guy in his 80's that still puffs it...
Legalize it, tax the chit out it, cripes, costs more to enforce the "law", and it gets broke all the time.... know some people that should take a puff once in a while ;) ;)
And if it helps somebody with cancer, or glaucoma, go for it!

me, don't do either no more......... too many other things to do!

Nebe 11-29-2004 11:07 PM

Anything will mess up your life if you do it too much.. even fishing !

Clammer 11-29-2004 11:41 PM

Y E P

CAL 11-29-2004 11:50 PM

I say make it legal. I could be wrong, but doesn't the stuff grown for medicinal use not have the THC in it? Even if not, if it has legitmate benefits it should be legal. Can't do any worse than OC.

spence 11-30-2004 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CAL
I say make it legal. I could be wrong, but doesn't the stuff grown for medicinal use not have the THC in it? Even if not, if it has legitmate benefits it should be legal. Can't do any worse than OC.
Nope, it's full of THC...otherwise what would be the joint, er a point?

What's silly is that they extract THC and sell it as Marinol in pill form. They are very strong. So strong you're pretty much a vegetable all day. With the real weed you can regulate your relief very well and stay as productive as possible.

Having seen a close friend go through cancer, and having a Mom who's severly debilitated by MS...I think it's freaking absurd that the Government thinks they have any right to limit what they can do to feel better short of suicide.

Perhaps it means some fuddy fat white men in Washington are actually going to have to think about addiction behavior and the messages we give our kids.

-spence

The Dad Fisherman 11-30-2004 08:27 AM

People won't have to go to Canada to save 80% on the script....its pretty much the same price in either country.


I think we have a LOT more serious things to worry about as a country than someone sparking one up, especially when someone is suffering through a chemotherapy treatment or from some other disease.

besides
Drinking + Driving = 20 miles ABOVE the speed limit
Smoking + Driveing = 20 miles BELOW the speed limit, and you'll start to slow down because the light is getting ready to turn yellow.

***Disclaimer: Neither one is right, it was just a joke so don't start ripping my head off ***

cheferson 11-30-2004 08:58 AM

Dont see what the stink is about, just leaglize it.:smokin: I dont understand why they bust potheads anyway, when coke and heroin are much more available and more damaging. Ive lost more then one friend to heroin and have had many friends who have battled or still are battling coke addiction. I havent had any friends die from smoking a lil herb, or out stealing stuff or selling there body to smoke a joint.:huh:

RIROCKHOUND 11-30-2004 09:01 AM

Legalize it...
It's one of those things that whether its legal or not people will get it if it helps their illness... like everyone else said, why cant unkie-sam make a few bucks off it....

Now where is my Pikie shaped bong :smash: :D :smash:

cheferson 11-30-2004 09:05 AM

Thats another reason they dont want it legalized, cause it would be very hard for the goverment to make any money off its sale. Its hard to tax it when you can grow your own.

chris L 11-30-2004 09:28 AM

yes it should with out a doubt !

ThrowingTimber 11-30-2004 09:52 AM

Wont happen cant tax it. You see that lil stamp on the bottom of your cigs? You know how much it would be taxed? You think an 1/8 is steep now, wait til they tax that chit outta that 1/8. Nope wont happen, they cant tax any home grown unless they make it a tax everyone pays yearly and that wont go either....I dont advocate its use either just arguing a point of view :)

Flaptail 11-30-2004 10:56 AM

Legalize it period. There are worse things, like alcohol. If they ever do I am going to invest heavily in Hostess Cakes and Drakes bakeries not to mention Nabisco.:D

jugstah 11-30-2004 11:28 AM

They should just legalize it.

Did you know that herb grown in an acre provides more oxygen to the air than 10 acres of trees?

Did you know that herb can be used to make paper, clothes, shoes, etc and could make these substantially cheaper?

Strider 11-30-2004 01:07 PM

Yaaaaaa Mannnnn! We be takin doobie snacks :D

t.orlando 11-30-2004 01:21 PM

They sure should.....Think of all the cool tye-dye plug patterns.

Flaptail 11-30-2004 01:25 PM

It's 100% percent natural. You can't cook it up in a lab using all kinds of nasty chemicals to cut it with. I cruise the court reports in the paper most every night. One guy gets caught drunk driving. He gets 45 day suspension of license, 30 day alcohol couseling, which he has to pay for and it ain't cheap, 350.00 in court costs and a record. Next guy gets caught with some weed. He gets 30.00 court costs and continued without a finding for sixty days after which his records get sealed. The courts know the weed laws are a joke and they should be spending time on more important things. I agree. Let the guy who wants to grow a little patch for his own enjoyment do it and if it helps someone forget the pain and anxiety of a cancer or other dibilitating desease what is the harm? I personally would rather drive with someone who just smoked a joint than drank a six pack.

You want to fight drugs then go after the crack dealers and the guys giving ecstasy to kids. The heroin dealers and coke heads. Now those people should be drawn and quartered.

NJTackle 11-30-2004 01:27 PM

Would someone please explain to us how different weed is to Tobacco? I really don't see how the government can justify legalizing tobacco and not weed! Think of the similarities? Think of the revenue? Think of the $ saved from drug traffic control?

Off topic - while their at it they should also legalize prostitution! And yes, tax the hell out of it! Mandatory health physicals (HIV tests) annually, etc. It would definitely help clean up the streets. NOW - I'm not saying I visit or need prostitution. I'm a happily married man! Trust me.....porn is a multi-million dollar industry and I'm not the pervert here!

Skip N 11-30-2004 01:37 PM

Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get. Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it. As if people arent F'ed up enough in this country we should make drugs even more common place?:af: What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next:rolleyes: :af: From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need:rolleyes:

quick decision 11-30-2004 01:49 PM

poll report
 
y-19
n-3
yesnomabey-1

I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get.

People who are looking for a alternative medicine should be allowed to pick the drugs they use. A lot of people over abuse pain killers every day. If pot was leagle, it would be abused to.


I dont like the government moderating anything more than is nessesary. I would say yes on medical but no on public use.

NJTackle 11-30-2004 02:14 PM

Re: poll report
 
Quote:

Originally posted by quick decision
[B]y-19
n-3
yesnomabey-1

I think it is probaley in some cases it is easier for kids to get pot than beer or cigs. I think this is bad. I'm not sure if pot was made leagle if it would make it easier or harder for kids to get.
I agree. You'd be surprised how easy it is. If they are going to try it behind my back, I'd certainly rather have them try weed grown by a pharmaceutical company then some jackoffs basement not know what chemicals he may have used.

Simply put - if a parent doesn't know his kid is smoking weed then that child should be taken away from the parent, period! Yes, there should be a strike 1, 2 and 3 or other. My point is there is no way, as a parent, that you can NOT know your kid is smoking weed. Or the he is not building explosives in the basement, guns, over 18 video games - the list goes on and on. Unless of course, you travel 99% of the time and are never around. Then the more important question is who's really raising the child, and are you really responsible enough to have children? Damn...why not make having children illegal. There is no license or qualification for that. You don't have to be a certain age. There is no test. You can have as many as you'd like no matter your financial status. And if you can't afford them, the rest of us will help pay for them! We need to be more responsible for our own actions and not depend on the government or other agency to guide us through the road of life!

It blows my stack when society blames society when things go wrong. What is this world coming to when we need huge bold notes on coffee cups stating 'contents may be hot'. That we need to be told that smoking may cause cancer. Drinking & driving impairs your reaction time. You need to buckle up when driving. Guns should be made illegal as they kill, not the people pulling the trigger. And when there isn't something there to remind us so we don't forget to breath (cause, you know, we may forget and drop dead)......we immediately seek legal counsel.

I digress....and am going back to work. Need to pay for my kids college fund....

cheferson 11-30-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip N
Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get.
You havent been in a town school system lately, i take it. My friends in High School could score a bag of herb easier then they could get alcohol. Ussally score it right in school too. If they cant keep drugs out of high security prisons, how the heck do they expect to rid a free society of them anyway???

bart 11-30-2004 02:27 PM

i wouldn't go as far as to say its 100% natural. some is, but most isn't.

booze and cigs kill more people in this country than anything else, yet they remain legal. i think this one is of the great hypocrisies(sp?) of our time.

if it will help someone who is terminally ill feel the slightest bit better why not legalize it for medical use?

The Dad Fisherman 11-30-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skip N
Nope....it will make it even easier for kids to get.
How could it possibly be any easier for kids to get. Right now if they want it they can get it....no problem. At least if it was legal and sold at a store proper ID could be required. Some stores really do ID Kids for Cigarettes and Booze


Quote:

Originally posted by Skip N
Only the druggie stoner types want that chit legal so they can smoke it.
Funny there wre a lot of people on this board that want it legal and I don't think they're the Druggie Stoner types.


Quote:

Originally posted by Skip N
What the heck, crack and coke aint too bad, maybe even heroin next
The big differnce betwwen these drugs and weed is that if you take too much of these you DIE. I've never seen anyone OD on pot before


Quote:

Originally posted by Skip N
From what i hear weed is more harmful to your body than cigarates. Just what people need:rolleyes:
I agree that if you smoke a Pack of bones a day the same way you smoke a pack of butts, yes it probably is worse for you than smoking....but nobody, in reality, smokes 20 joints a day


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