Oct. OTW
 

Got Spots? :doh:
complete with park here, stand here, and cast here..
great for the Mc'Fishermen....
Rhody Guys, I feel your pain.

wow, is the article that detailed? i don't get that magazine, and they don't sell it anywhere near me here in southern NJ, but i'd be bent if they did an article that is super specific. one of the two major saltwater fly fishing magazines just had an article about the western coast of CT that was super detailed. it's one thing for a publication to point out how and why, but exactly where is another issue altogether.

by the way, once i get a copy of October's OTW, who wants to join me in RI? :rotf3:

thats what happens with all the internet experts out there . all of a sudden they have writing skills . So they give up the info that someone else told them . Its not all the writers just some of them .

I like the writers that give how to info .

Chris, it wasn't an internet writer :(

I could not belive what I was reading either, and it wasn't just RI :doh:

If a spot is common knowledge, that is one thing mentioning it but to take ya by the hand and explain what to throw, when and where, that's a bit much :bsod:

OTW
 

has changed............. :doh:

OH well..

The past year and a half I have noticed the OTW has been doing this
to many out of the way spots. It just isn't right let these newbies find
there own spots, do the leg work

i havent seen it yet who wrote the article?

Steve McKenna

oh boy... :(

I dont subscribe, can someone relay the info. on ri via pm. :rotf3:

Ron Powers from OTW does it month in and month out....burning all the south shore spots...he is a jackass! :mad: Lays out the entire where to park...where to go, where not to go....how you shouldn't be there but do this anyway!!! :mad:

somebody has to talk to that boy :hang: :behead: :gorez: :nailem:

:bsod: :exp:

So which writer is the "Hero"????? :exp:

WoW - what is that guy thinking :huh:
The only thing missing are the 8x10 color glossy photo's, hand drawn will just have to do.

Why did he do it?

Speculations;

Axe to grind with someone or thing?
Doesnt realize what he did?
Doesnt care?
Why did the editor let that get out?

Better install a deli counter number machine... "Spot open for number 74, anyone got 74?" :hs:

I wonder if he is listing all the places he used to fish and omitting the spots he fishes now. I saw a post once by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, steves fishing buddy, that was spot specific and his reason was that he could be specific because he doesn't fish there anymore..........

I got mine today and was floored by it. I even showed my wife, I just could not believe what I was reading.

Anyone try and find the good color sluggo's after the last OTW article on them :hs:

I guess they are like any other business, and need to sell magazines to a large demographic. Lets face it, most of the guys that fish aren't all that serious or comitted, and this will appeal to them in a big bad way.

Reminds me of the pre-tied striper bait hooks I got for xmas one year from a well meaning relative who knew I liked to fish. Hey it says striper on it, that must be what he needs.

Next thing you know those spots are gonna look like the east end of the canal on a saturday night.

Time to break out the lantern boys, it's getting dark..

The new OTW hasn't shown up in the shop yet.

And I'm scared to even look in it when it does.

No one wants to let us who don't have our copies yet know who the fool is? :behead:

Did you read the whole thread?

bigfish, read the thread again, it's here :nailem: :thanks: :sick:

Look up a few posts Bigfish

No wonder Larry has so many posts :laughs: :laughs:

Got it...sorry missed that post! Thanks...what a cheesehead Steve McKenna is! :behead:

quoted by nebe: well i had a freind read it to me over the phone.. im not pissed at all.

those spots are 'has been' spots. kinda like some of the old spots you read about on the cape that no longer produce like they used to.

if anything i am glad, as it will send the googans in the wrong direction.

Steve is no fool.. i fish with him occasionally and while i am surprised at this, i'm not going to loose sleep over it.
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come on nebe, when's the last time you fished at the knob?
I understand what you are saying though.
It's still surprising to see it all laid out you have to admit.
alot of people are gonna be pissed off, what about trash and parking issues that can happen when crowds show up because of this?

good point, i should say that the 2 spots close to me have been slow producers for the past 2 seasons.

I guess the key to the game is to stay off the map and avoid any areas where people already fish.. 'make your own spots'.. kind of like bassmaster's 'make your own reports'

i will have to read it in person though.

Most places he mentioned are well known, by name, the thing that got me, was the detail, and the hand drawn maps with the X's,. and the park here, stand here, cast here, 5 spots to better your chances at a forty this fall :yak: ....
is he trying to divert a crowd, if these spots are passe as ebay, er, nebe (;) )
said?
A generic mention of a place, fine, but 8x10's with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back explaining the circles and arrows :huh:.. c'mon (apologies to Arlo Guthrie for stealing his line)
One thing to steer someone in the right direction,but, this was waaaay too explicit, and like Slip said, do these area's need more pressure, traffic, litter, and increase folks ire over overcrowding, and what goes with that?....:huh:

I agree w/ Nebe on his statement above.


I went to Steve's seminar on that was held at the Jamestown Striper Club. There were about twenty people that attended with me being the only one from S-B. There was a similiar seminar at the West Valley Inn the previous nite that I did not attend but there were 300 people.


I have yet to read the article but it must be the same information he described at the seminar.

I am applying this knowledge to better understand how to fish other locations that I'm presently aware of and those that I yet to explore.

Steve is a cool guy. There are worst things in life to bicker about then castrate a sharpie that is trying to better others lifes if they can make the connection.

At one of these spots there has been talk on this site, of parking problems already.

I havn't got my copy yet but regardless of his intentions it sounds pretty moronic if you ask me. What good can possibly come from being that specific?

Next thing you know, Powers will be including hand drawn maps too and GPS coordinates just to one up him.

Karl F, I knew someone was gonna jump all over the Arlo Guthrie thing :hihi:

Eben :doh:

Eben - always remember, "has been" spots to one are "prime" spots to another. With all the constant talk about spot burning on this site, I'm surprised anyone would give him a break since he mentioned exacts vs generalities. One of them is definitely a spot I fish every fall and there is very limited parking to begin with. Just some food for thought.......

like BF said.....R.P. does it all the time...in VERY sensitive areas!!!....he just don't care.........just tryin to sell magazines, I guess...

RP is a tool! :gf:

I don't even want to read it.... :yak: :yak4:
It's getting harder and harder ...

otw needs to change or we need to stop buying it! :eek: :yak: :yak4: :eek5:

Steve is my partner and best friend, I cant sit here and see you rip the guy apart for something you all know you want SPOTS ! The spots he talks about are very well known and in now way "secret" or more importantly PRIVATE.

They all have public access and public parking and are for the most part already over crowded, I think his thought process on this was whats the difference? if there are going to be a hundred guys at a spot , they may as well at least fish it right. Sure some people are going to get pissed off, pile on the crap, look cool by saying what a spot burner he is etc, etc, etc..

Does he fish these spots anymore? nope, very rarley, would he have mentioned them 10 years ago? no way in fact he was pushed out long ago from overcrowding, you may occasionaly see him at the river but thats it.

The number one question he gets asked in the baitshop is about spot, 24/7 all people want to know is spots, spots, spots... So he gave them some, as for the kowledge he gave, If your smart, you would read it 10 times and apply what he has written, you may just get yourself a dream fish, If I was new I would take it as a blessing, you may end up shaking his hand.

So if your this unhappy and dramatic over this then be straight up and go see him at the shop and tell him to his face, stop knocking the guy on the internet when he has no defence here as he does not have a computer.

Steve has helped many people improve there fishing, he is nothing but helpfull at the shop, and does whatever he can to better someones experiance on the water....Lay off and take a time out , I think you will all see that those are spots that every googan with a surfstick has already fished... Its crap like this overblown thread that make me stay away from the boared :yak4: :yak4:

It also makes me sick that some of these people will smile to his face and then rip him here you, know who you are.

Go to Bed /// write thigs down // :gf:

As an occasional contributor to fishing publications I read this with more than a passing interest.I got a feeling after November otw my a$$ is going to be sore as much as Steve is reading this stuff.But I am getting ahead of myself.
I got these felling (and correct me if I am wrong) that spot burning is ok as long as the spots are not your own.Because when someone s talking about a rip off Montauk Point ,NY or Sandy Hook ,NJ you read it with drool in your mouth ,taking in every sentence and imagining standing in with stripers bumping at your boots.Written words take places you only heard of and makes them familiar .But when it comes to places you fish ,oh no.God forbid somebody even mention about their existence ,even if they are not as productive as they used to be.Send everybody to Cape ,I say.
I'll reserve my judgment until otw shows up a week or so ..........