Roman Nikes, How
 

are they weighted? I'm going on a swimmer without lip binge. Help...

x-ray :eyes:

Jake/ Fred I been thinking of them alot myself .. want to try one too ... I'd say Vinyard Blues has to be the leading authority on those .. His collection is sick .. maybe he'll chime in .. I noticed making darters difference in weight of blanks,,angles on top,and wire locations are huge.. I bet its the same deal with those ..

YOU, are the reasom that I'm doing this. That yellow Dahtah you gave me has the sickest search and destroy that I've ever seen! It looks like it's tracking down fish, makes about a 6 foot wide "S".

I have one that bassassasin made a couple years back. Nice action to it :kewl: Hopefully he'll chime in and give you some input.

Jigman

Here you go, top one is an original, bottom one is mine with eyes :eyes:
This is the largest Nike that Floyd Roman made, it's about 3.5 ounces. Haven't swam mine yet but hopefully this weekend. I tried to imitate the color that vineyardblues had at the MSBA show. Hi Peter :wavey:
If it swims alright, I might make it for the lazy swap :tooth:

Love that color! How'd you weight it?

All in the pooper :bshake: Can't find any belly weight in the original.

Pissa! Thanks! :bounce:

is original weighted in the pooper ? How do you classify that plug ? swimmer? darter ? sweet work ,,I'd love one ..

Pretty sure it's weighted in the pooper, it's tail heavy. I'm guessing it swims like a bottle plug. Both original and clone are going swimming :hihi:
Don't worry Tagger, you'll get one :cheers:

Tagger
Can you show us some of those Swirl paint Darters you make. :kewl:

geeez don't want to mess up thread ,,..

Nice Job Andy, u dog :)
Looks reel-nice
I do not think their is any weight at all,
BA,Mr Pogie,Chum,and a few others have made them.
No help from me,sorry.
Have fun ,make a bunch,swim them and then send me one!

VB

Those are nice. I have never heard of them before. Ignorance is bliss. P.

FLOYD ROMAN lures were made with screw eyes and wire tru
If your having issues with the wire :)
90% of mine are screw eyes :faga:
I would guess the screw eyes are early,,, late 30's early 40's
vb

Ya, like u could mess up a thread. :rollem: :bL:

Ya, like u could mess up a thread. :rollem: :bl:

Whoops posted wrong one .. I sneezed in the epoxy on that one ,,,,just mixed it in ..Roman Nike ,,No weight sounds good,, lively ,,like musso darter.. What kind of wood.. hard maple , or a cedar , white pine ? what are they made of ..

While working today and thinking about those plugs, it occured to me that I hadn't asked what kind of wood. It would(wood?) make a difference. Thanks Tagger. Any pic of your work could never mess up a thread. Never.

not to beat a dead horse,, anyone know what kinda wood... thanks.. fred ..your on plugs for life list. little black danny is magic .. thanks for letting nephew ho u ..

I think it might be red cedar. Where there is paint missing on my original, the wood is very soft. The lure looks like it has about 10 coats of paint, pretty thick.

I did the "balance the lure in the middle" and the tail wanted to fall first and if the lure is made of red cedar, it wouldn't weigh 3.5 ounces without some weight. Just my observation.

these two seem to be red cedar..blue one is 3/4 at the tail while the yellow is 5/8.......blue is 7 1/2 long while the yellow is 7 1/4, both are 1 5/8 thick.
both are through wired, but the belly has screw eyes..I can also see abit of lead in the tail..3/16 thick by ??long..nothing in the tummy.


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weight on these are 2.55/ 3.0 0z.

thanks.. u swim one CS ? great looking plug

no I havn't, these are so dry they'd likely to blow up...when I looked at the belly screws,,they were drilled out like they were going to put swivels in,they have gromets..and if you look in the hole you can see what looks like glue that the screws are set into.if they weren't so hard to come by I'd split one in half :hidin:

If you split one in 1/2 call me up I would like to watch and have a drink and say a prayer :eek5:

Make sure it's the bottom one , the top one is a tuff color


VB

Weird, but I've been experimenting with a body shape not alot different than those in Capesams' picture... just a lot smaller... like maybe 4 inches by 3/4" at the thickest point.

Major difference, and point of frustration, is I have been cutting darter faces on them... in all kinds of angles and most common woods, without success. Won't dart for nothing, but they swim pretty good. Guess I should just cut slopes on them and paraphrasing what 10x10 used to say... invent the Floyd Roman. :rotfl:

I saw one Ed p had a few years back..brand new...I could sware it was much bigger than these two.....cut these,,no...if I get the chance I'll get it x-rayed along with a few other's.

I seem to remember someone here (not metioning any names) had access to an x-ray machine.Would be nice to post them for us to see>:)

Mine weighs 3.5 ounces. I'll get measurements when I get home.

andy, u get the pic's I sent?

vb

i don't remember? (know ) why, but i suddenly
got a wicked rush of de ja vu :huh:

nice fat swimmers for sure...

Got pics. Where are the big ones you have. I know you have more than you showed :beat:

What would the dia. in front of the front hook at the end of the slope coming down in the front, it kind of looks like it is a straight turning before the angle is milled on? Anyone know what the hell I am saying? Also dia. at the back end? Thanks Paul

paul go eat a meatball :jump:


Nike: 71/2 inch long 3 ½ oz
(The MISSILE that guides you to good Striper and other Big Game fish)

Nike Jr: 6 ½ inch long 2 ¼ oz
Little Nike: 5 ½ inch long 1 3/8 oz
Slick Nike: 4 inch long 1 oz
Fresh Water Nike: 4 inch long ¾ oz
Spin Nike: 3 inch long ¼ oz

Skindiver: 6 ¾ inch long 3 oz
(Long distance casting deep swimming plug which is very effective with eel skin drawn over plug for night surf casting, or without eel skin for day-time casting)


Slzzler: 7 ¼ inch long 3 ½ oz
Sizzler Jr: 5 inch long 1 ¾ oz
(Real Hot Popping plug for all Salt Water game Fish)


Dart N Dart: 6 ¾ inch long 3 oz
Dart N Dart Jr: 4 inch long 1 ½ oz

(Darts on surface when line is attached to bottom eye. Darts deep when attached to top
eye)

Sandee: 1 ½ oz and Lil Sandee: in ¼ oz size

(cast up stream at an angle .Let sink quit deep ,twitch rod tip 2 or 3 times. Retrieve 2 or 3 turns let drop back and repeat for best results. Very effective with eel skin at night.)

Hey you Irish Puerto Rican :scream: you got those dim. You must have a few hundred of those things hanging around..break out the calipers.. P.

P A Surfer.. u already make a very fine and unique darter.. holds in the ditch..I'm scared of loosing this one .. VB pics ?

Paul jump on 495 north and come on up !
I am sure you wil like dinner, stuffed cabbage, Italino style.

ps , bring some parmesian :bl:


VB

A Few Colors :humpty:
VB

Sorry for the hijack, but thanks for the words of faith, Tagger, glad you like it... and you'd better hang on to it 'cause it's one of only seven :uhuh: ...maybe the only one that works that well. :rotfl:

Back on topic... looking at VB's stats, the erstwhile darter -- formerly a popper body design -- that I'm fooling with falls right between the Slick and Freshwater versions, weight wise with no lead, and swims down to 3-4 feet in sweetwater. So I'm gonna cut a couple with straight face slopes between 30 and 40 degrees, and see what that does. Worst case, I could swim them with the darter cuts, but it just goes against nature... you look at it and say "darter", but it swims more like Ester Williams than a drunken sailor. The belly bulge is not as pronounced on mine -- I just liked the flow of the curves -- and maybe that's why I never made the mental leap to a Nike, until I saw Capesams' pic... now, I've got try it, too.

Dang you, Jake. :p Thanks for bringing this up. :cheers: