Editing Posts
 

This is the announcement on Editing Posts:
this is up for a couple reasons, first please make sure that you say what you want to say before hitting enter. It has long been rude but allowed to make all kinds of posts then edit them out. More than a few people have been doing this lately and it has gone overboard. Second reason is that some people have been using it to take shots at others. I really want that to end. Discuss and issue, don't add fuel to a flame war - pleeeze

Thanks,

John

John, I was wondering if we can allow editing for a longer period of time now??? Members have been good lately it seems:angel:

Went from 5 minutes to 30 - we'll see how it goes :tooth:

It is Winter JohnR and WE ALL KNOW WHAT SEEMS TO HAPPEN WITH SOME....................

Me being fast fingered and mind slow I appriciate the ability to post and then reread what I wrote after the gear smoke from my brain clears enough to see what I wrote. There have been some major sentences slaughtering on my part. Thanks John!

I think that is because they can't edit thier posts.
I like the short edit time. More than enough time to fix errors.
I say..Leave it as is, seems to be working fine.:gf:

There's always "Preview Post" for fixing errors and seeing if your emoticons look the way ya want...

Seems to me that edit rule was "do as I say,not as I do"after you and your brother in law had a not so private spat not to long ago.It must be good to be KING because I could have read that all winter.:huh:

A lot of things "Seems to" you. But if you really must know, it was something a few of us had been discussing long before the little "spat". But no matter what any of us do here, you have no problem pointing what "seems to you" out, do you. And it is getting old for those of us that put in a lot of hours trying to run a good site to have you do nothing but bitch and criticise it. If you don't like it, don't read and don't post. If you want to contribute around here and not be so damn negative all time, we'd like to have you... Your call...

And while we are on the topic of winter, we're not going to have a lot of the long distance pi$$ing contests this winter either....

Apology accepted

Start your own site and you can be KING S%@$#!:walk:

WTF
I just asked a simple question :wall:

:gu:

You ought to know better..It's %$#@! winter...:smash:

How is THAT for being the "KING", I just got moderated on my own board :rotfl: by Slip

I like the 5 minutes or so. Just to correct spelling. Then , you get stuck with it.

Sea Dangles , nobody cares about what you have to say or would care if you disappeared from this board. In fact , some would like the idea.

I like the 5 minute time limit...the only problem is when you are running a swap or something and you can't change the posts to add or subtract someones name.....no problem though...keep up the good work guys!:)

yeah, cause I quit posting. My buddy Sea Dangles is carrying the flag for me.:hidin:

I like sea dangles style, he isn't afraid of speaking out against the "internet heroes". Sorry for the off topic post but I like the new edit options:kewl:

I'm not against people calling out the "Internet Heroes" either, but it is a different thing to start stuff up for grins and giggles or just to keep the skewer in a subject or someone when should have died a long time ago.

As for SD's frequent rant against those that moderate and manage here, we can never seem to do it to his liking. Well, it gets kinda old. Recently, he has posted more constructive topics here and adds a little to the site, but early on, a lot of his comments were destructive and destructive to any chance of something that comes close to be smooth running here. And not to single him out but if there were less people stirring the pot for grins and giggles, there would be less need for uber moderation and maybe some better discussion could take place. But with him, we can't edit some stuff fast enough, and other times we edit what we shouldn't be editing. We can't seem to win. I think the guys that moderate here, volunteer to moderate here, do a hell of a job. Unlike at some other places, moderating is not a pat on the back "I'm King and want to be an Internet Hero" task. The guys that moderate here are first class, genuine people: Slip, Mike P, Saltheart, Specialist, and Fishpart - they have charachter, and I get tired of seeing them get slammed for doing a pretty damn good job.

I also don't have any illusions about wanting or thinking I am "King", I'm not a glory hound personality :musc: . What I want is a good site where people passionate about fishing can openly discuss stuff without worry that the peanut gallery are going to ram down one's throat at the first chance. What I want is for people, this community of people, to be able to do the right thing, be better anglers, more respectful of others and the fish, and do it some some kind of friendly respectful way. We put ourselves all thru too much unnecessary crap, especially in the winter time, that detracts from any kind of normalcy and god forbid, maybe some fun and discussing something.

Sorry for the rant :laugha: , I'd just rather see are more freindly climate on the site this winter. Maybe we'll have a penalty box with a one day minor and one week major no posting :tooth:

I didn't mean it as a jab against you JohnR, keep up the good work on the site. It is by far the best.

Not taken as a jab at all RR, I just wish people could be more open and I see this site as being even better if we weren't stuck in the mid from time to time, does that make sense?

Self-imposed sabbaticals work well, also.:sleeps:

Too bad they're not self enforced :devil: :heybaby:

-spence

Just a couple of things. There's a fine line when it comes to moderating a long distance urination contest. If it looks like the guys are hashing it out, I tend to leave it alone for the moment. When it starts a downward spiral, that's when it ends. Now, for offensive stuff, I have a pretty strong gag reflex. I figger, if some picture or link offends me, it's a pretty safe bet it shouldn't be here ;)

Also, those of us who've been around the site since the beginning know who's friends with who, and when what looks like flaming is just friendly ball-busting. But a lot of the new guys might not. Keep that in mind. Not saying you have to end poking your buds in the ribs, but give some sign for the noobs that it's all in fun. Smilies, whatever.

One last point. I know I enjoy pouring myself a couple of fingers of an amber liquid and settling in front of a computer screen on a cold night when I can't fish. Nothing wrong with it. I also feel it loosening my fingers, and I stop at the point where I might be tempted to post something dumb. I can see from a lot of posts, in the late evenings or early mornings, that more than a few people probably enjoy this too. If nothing else, spelling and grammar take a hit ;) At some point, you have to stop and say, "Do I really, really, REALLY want to go ahead with this post??" before you move your mouse over the "submit reply" button and click on it. Just some friendly advice, to avoid problems over the winter.

There's nothing like a classic drunk post to really make an ass of yourself :uhuh:

The next morning you find yourself trying will it down the list of threads. At least that's what I've heard...

-spence

I like the 5mins. too.Keeps ya honest.

:hee: :buds: :rotf3:

I've never done that!:angel:

john, i'm not sure how it can be set up or not, but maybe have the editing limit longer only on certain boards, such as the classified or sponsor specials. as far as the main forum, i am all for no editing. then, it makes people think before they speak, which has seemed to be one of the problems many have. then, after cooling off or rethinking it, they edit it. or, as the habit traditionally was, climb into a corner by removing/editing their spat. w/o editing on, you will be almost forced to review your post before posting it. then, you may find your spelling or grammar mistakes, or may even rethink the whole post. to me, editing is the easy way out of the battle you either started or added fuel to.

if my memory is correct, i dont think i have ever edited one of my posts just for that reason. and, i have been in several "heated" love-wars thru the years.

i also bet you would see less moderating needed if people knew they couldn't remove what they said after seeing the feedback.

Well - the five minutes worked well for a lot of clerical errors and we just went from 5 - 30 minutes so we weill see how that goes - it can always go back :hee:

I liked the 5 minute time frame, but I'd survive if it was somewhere in the mid range of 5 and 30 and it was set at 15 minutes.

I'd go with Seawolf though if I were only thinking about my preferences. No editing really makes people think.

less handbag fights with the edit feature turned off. :uhuh:

i appreciate
 

the 30 minute editing time....because i rarely start flame wars for one thing...but mainly because i like to make art that entertains the group by playing off what is said...as it gives me idea's for art work.

Sometimes though i was uploading the wrong picture because i have many steps (proofs) before i get the right effect or finished product. now however, i upload to the photo bucket so i can display it as 800 x 600 pixels. And yes, several times i read in the morning what i wrote the night before
while a bit enebriated.....and then i'm saying OMG i can't believe i wrote that....what was i thinking....heh heh heh and just like worshiping the porcilin god and saying i'll never drink again....you find yourself wishing that post would dematerialize.....:wall:, lol

:cheers:

The internet is a funny thing.People can write things that they otherwise might not say.I can see why John took exception to my post,in my opinion it is because I brought back an incident he was embarrassed of.He and and #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& had a knockdown drag through the mud battle played out on the keyboard that was entertaining for some.Fortunately the issue was resolved in private like it should have been.They are both good guys.But then the thread just disappeared into thin air.Deleted.When Slip recently asked for amendmants to the time limit on editing posts I took the liberty of pointing out that certain people have the advantage of deleting their mistakes whenever they want while others have a time limit on editing.
I don't ever recollect criticizing the actions,effort or discretion of any moderators in the past.However I do admit to stirring the proverbial pot on occasion.Sometimes the result is good banter like we have here,other times I have been embarrassed by what I wrote.
BTW Saltheart,do you know what sycophant means?

You kill me dude :laugha:

are those the Meds you forget to take all the time ?? :hihi:

just kiddin. :laugha:

your a complex dude seadangles.. i like it.. never a dull moment :D

"The KING" has spoken.:laugha:

Damn, I wish I could edit that.:wall:

Dangles - again, your take on what and why is wrong. My "exception" to your remarks being about me and Bill's little "spat" as it was called is not what it was about, now or then. I personally don't like to edit or delete threads, including removing them but if they don't belong then I will, and I did. I'm not embarrassed about it, regret that it got to that point, yeh, embarrased, no. Granted, you've only been here for a year or so, but I'm sure there has been a post or two before that one that has needed to get flushed as well. I think moderating here at S-B has been fairly consistant for the 5 or 6 years we've been around.

As for some of us being able to edit or delete beyond a time limit? Up until recently, everyone was able to edit their posts without limit but a few, often when in the middle of "banter", would type something out and then remove or alter or delete - too easy to type and not take responsibility for it. So, after 5 plus years, we had to limit the edit feature. Kinda sucks for the majority of people that a few screwed that up.

As for when you have questioned the mods, there have been a few instances where we could not edit a spot name fast enough, or shucks darn, we missed one or remove a post fast enough so we apparently sucked for not being quick enough on the trigger and there have been other times when you knock us for having the need to edit or delete at all - so damend if we do damned if we don't.

n : a person who tries to please someone in order to gain a personal advantage

Hmm , not sure if you are applying that term to me or yourself.

If you are applying it to me , please let me know who I am trying to please and what I might possibly have to gain?

If you are applying it to yourself , you are not fitting the description. You are not pleasing anyone here.

Around here , you are known as the guy who is jealous of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. You behave like a jealous high school girl. Jealousy may be cute when displayed by a teeny bopper but when a grown man is so obviously jealous of another fisherman , its ugly and I'm embarassed for you.

John,I never said any of you sucked.These are your words not mine.I have too much respect for you to say that or even imply it.But if you choose to use hyperbole to make me look worse that is your right.I think you are taking this thread a little too personally.Happy Holidays!!Saltheart,you should learn to speak for yourself instead of speaking for a supposed group.We are all individuals with our own opinions,if we were all the same this board would be boring.Judging from the response to my last few postings and the p.m.'s I received some people actually do enjoy what my opinion is.Your response indicates a lack of humor or understanding to the joke I made at your expense.Get well soon.