Well? Where Is All The RISSA Show Chatter?
 

Good show? Bad show? Just curious as I could not make it?:huh:

No. Great show. I couldn't believe how loaded the show was with quality custom plugs. No good deals but alot of good stuff. Gillette didn't bother me but it was rather nice having so much room to move around. Tattoo put a serious dent in my wallet. Love the jointed swimmers. Also got a nice deal on an Arra 1204. Well that was until they calculated the Rhode Island tax. WTF.

It was nice meeting Afterhours and doing some rod talk with Seawolf. I took my AH rascal out for a spin with the 1204 today. They like each other alot.

Thats the kind of chatter I am looking for....kind of makes me feel like I was there!:bgi:

I love the smell of cedar in the morning:uhuh:

I could not make it :(

I wanted some Tattoo darters...oh well :(

THere was another thread that was started last night, great show with alot of great people there. I had a great time and put a dent in my mad money fund. The Tattoo Jointed swimmers are nice I wish I could have gotten black. and I was 2 1/2 hours after it opened yesterday and all the Habs Jointed needles were gone and the Beachmasters were gone in like 2 minutes. there were not many of Salty's needles or spooks left either. but talking to everyone is sure worth the 10 dollars entrance fee. plus I added a few new spots to my list, it is funny how beer loosens lips

I wish you told me I would have scored some for you, If someone sees this maybe they will do you a favor and get some for you. I wanted some deep divers and totally forgot, I will get them though

I WAS having a good time.I got myself a decent filet knife finally,bought a few of Nebe's eels and bought my girlfriend one of Afterhour's Sliders and then the phone rings while walking down the isle and its my girlfriend's daughter.Someone tried to break in.

I was potentially going to have a great day but now I'm angry and want to go shoot the punk(s).

If you live in neighborhoods off of the Warren Ave. area in Tiverton keep an eye out for suspicious people.

Sorry to hear that Basswipe. Not feeling secure in your own home is NOT a fun feeling.

Also, RI sales tax. They love to mock "Taxachusetts" and its 5%, but RI is definitely brutal with its 7%.

The vibe at the show continues to be great. Met some great people today which is almost always the best part of fishing shows.

ihad agood time lots of stuff tuns of goodies ,,i loaded up on tuna junk ,for the tuna junkies its like a druk all those skirts and heads and birds and bars and chains etc,etc.and so on.....saw lots of faces ,tryed to talk to all ,,,i saw lots of plug HO,s,,the guys w/ thit 3 plugs in there top pockets and bags over there shoulders . seen j- habs ,hes a good time saw al gaggs he,s got good stuff ,tatoo to ,nice plugs ,,long talk w/ lone wolf ..salty bugger ,was there too talked to rod reps ,loked at the boats and wished for sprink i had a good time ....cap,t cupcake...

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yeha, same here. i didnt knwo that it was a funny looking rubber eel that was made by nebe. it looked cool. i didnt want to spend more. college budget. i will buy when i can. i chatted with some people there. habs is a guenientely COOLEST guy. the man could speak my language. i saw a lot of potential fluke setups and jigs...

Great show! Picked up some surf asylum and Nebe eels.can't wait to rig them up! Also, thanks to Pt Jude Joe and JBuck for the hookup:wave:

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Still not quite NY with 8.25% statewide, and 8.50% in Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Then there's that swell 5 digit LI property tax :doh: :wall:

Want to leave? Get ready to fork over that real estate transfer tax :rocketem:

"Taxachusetts"? Count yer friggen' blessings :humpty:

is Teddy Kennedy a blessing?? :eek:

well yeahhhh, if he'd only take hillary out for a couple a cocktails!!:grins:

Ted and Hillary
 

Good one Raven:bgi:

The Habs-Tattoo area was one o my Favorite places.We all now bout the high quality plugs..
thats not why it was my favorite.Well it was but.The Raffle girls supplied me with a special kinda wood.No not that U dirty minded bastage's. I won a free Tattoo plug in a raffle.Now take a girl thats Model Beautifull wit a very nice personality, an then she gives u Wood,I mean lures. Its enough to make even The Notorius NIB week in the Knees.I'm so in love wit tony...I almost had to beat down a coupla fellow NJ dogs...She said she was a teacher.I wanna be in the third grade again.:hihi:

Did anyone notice the Gibbs New three once Needle's.
It was a Hab's right down to the paint scheme.The white with the red splash around the eyes.
I started to bust thier balls on it but I felt sorry for the poor bastage.
So I stopped.Imitation is the greatest form of flattery he said.I Said well ur directly copyin his product an will be takin money out of his pocket an from his family.He went on an on how he don't make any money outa gibbs.How it takes up a very small part of his large facility that primarily makes displays or somethin.thats what I like to hear plugs made for the fisherman by displaymakers.No thanks...He was big on the tradition of the Gibbs Name that was good.But the new stuff is stilll mosly junk.Glad i got my older Gibbs stuff to hold me over.They sell em at custom prices also.For a good plug I would rather thro a Lex Lure. Anyone see the 3 oz. darters at the surfcaster.Model'd after a old small NJ builder that usta make em an sell em by the grosses at montauk.They swim great an at 14.99 tough to beat.Speakin of Darters Did anyone notice the new Tattoo 2 oz.models.Much nicer than the Beachmasters if u can find one.Coming in the fall, when they come out It'll be tough not to get the whole line.Mr.Tatdad gotta get busy I will need em for July/August when i come back up there.Some dude from NJ was tellin me how he has 15 tattoo plugs.I was like thats sick.well last night i was putting away the new stuff i got an noticed i had a few an couted em up.Boy am I sick.:wall:

Dennis from Gibbs is a nice guy.Everyone is copying somebody and that's called free enterprise.Hab seems to have enough buyers for his wood,no matter how many pieces he makes.The cream always rises to the top.

Had a good time. Peed before I left home and when I got there and nobody was rude to me. Boy.....real glad I left most of my money home. I don't need anymore stuff.......ya.......right. :smash: Like everybody else. :whackin: OK.......shows are over, let's get the fish in here !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smalley was the last name of the guy I talked to not sure if that is Dennis or his partner.Yes he did seem like a nice guy.
It is obvious there are no rules in the war(Free enterprize) of plugbuilding.I would be embarassed to blantently copy something like that.Needle styles are simple to vary on why not try something on thier own.I pulled a white HAB's outa my bag an showed it to my friends (not really up on all the plug stuff)they could not believe thier eyes.The prices won't be too different to matter an in Gibbs limited color selections I don't think they would do as well goin that route as if they came up wit something different on thier own.Really makes Poor buisness sense to me..Perhaps thats why they cry the blues at gibbs.I shouldn't Bomb as bad as the 3oz darter.because at least it'll catch fish.Sure copy from the best.why not.When it comes to the needle Habs is still # 1.

Howdy NIB :wave:
Just curious as to why you say the Tattoo's 2oz darters are nicer than beachmasters? The 2oz BM's I have dig better than anything I've ever used and look fantastic. What makes them..."nicer" or stand above the rest?

So what do you say to HAB-A-TAT when they make mureels?Gibbs was making needles before these guys even fished.Buy the best,buy Habs.But as far as blatantly copying plugs,I doubt any maker has been copied in one way or another than Gibbs.Of course it's not Stan but a company that bears his name.IMO the only Gibbs worth buying is the polaris.

I noticed the new needle had a spro swivel. I wonder if it will when it's finally available. That would be weird if they put theat plug out with good hardware and continue to put everything else out with sh*t hardware.

J-Habs, Don, Al, Norby, John, Pete & crew etc. :btu: :chatter

I noticed the gibbs needle too. They definately weren't too creative on the look of the needle but they guy I talked to said that it would be a floater, so at least that part is different. The thing that I though was kind of weird is that they're calling it "The Original Gibb's Needle" or something along those lines. I've never seen an early gibb's needle that looked like that.

The original Gibbs needle was like an ounce, maybe 3/4 oz, and it had screw eyes. I have a couple, still.

Dennis is Dennis Ryan, and Smalley is Dan Smalley.

And as long as you don't have the audacity to fish a darter in April :whackin:

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Yes everything has been done before.We all know that.Stan didn't invent the needle fish either.
No one on the next aisle over is sellin mureels.They also made sure the due respect was payed.Thats the difference.Its apples an oranges.

I have a few also.
I guess i spoke to Dan then.

Larry, you missed the candy vendor, overpriced plugs, some guy ripping off Beachmaster plugs saying they were as good as, some other guy selling cutom baits for 30.00 each that after inspection didn't pass muster by me. Bobby from Beachmaster was there and we had a long talk about the correct way to fish plugs. Saw Nib. The knife guy was great bought a new 7 inch filet knife and a couple new stones. Other than that, no real bargains. Gibbs gave me a rare tiger red over yellow danny, scored an old GooGoo eyes swimmer for a buck, Nice Tattoo hat and the NJ Tackle guys are always great to yak with. Habs was there, and the best was the chinese guys selling the offshore squids and tuna stuff, left some bucks there. If the guy wanting to clean my glasses asked me one more time, he would have needed some himself when he got out of the hospital.

Imitation is another word for respect.If you knew what I know then you would understand imitation is overblown.It has happened before and it might happen again.:grins:

I bought the Purple Magic, the only problem was he wanted to clean my glasses with paper towels thats a no-no.

i saw those guys. they have some squids that look to be potential fluke teasers. they never asked me to clean my glasses or soemthing.

Just rolled in to NJ,pretty tired but just wanted to say thanks to everyone that stopped by or I ran into and had the pleasure of chatting with. esp:Tattobob & his wife(make sure you stop out at M this year,no excuses) Flap, always a pleasure & you definitely one of the most knowledgeable guys ,Z (really glad you won at Foxwds) ,Bobby from Beachmaster, what a legend this guy is, and he really is much younger in person , Iron Mike anytime you want to go scuba diving bud let me know , Capt Don a true gentleman, DonG(awesome new colors) ,Mac & his better half, Pete G (you guys run a top notch operation) . Scott and Denise of course, "the veteran" Al Gags, The guys from the Surfcaster(that bunker snake oil was way too freakin funny).
Pt Jude Joe, always a gentleman.Dave from Surf Asylum,great to finally meet you. The guys from The Lonely Angler.
and last but not least Habsie, who shouldnt ever play poker with me cause I know all his tells now(just busting bud)
Hurley lures and the Buckos, guys thanks again,it was a pleasure .

Hey Bernie where u there.?
Would have loved to see ya again..
I said they where much nicer.I should have known the BM crowd wouldn't like that.Sometimes I don't think things thru all the way as beauty is in the eye of the beholder.The 2 oz. Tattoo I have swam great it does what a darter does dart.Not overly darty.an it doesn't dig too much but holds in current.I think Tattoo does a much better job painting em.Yes beachmaster has gotten a little more variations in thier color schemes in the past few yrs.Everybody knows the basic colors are all u really need.But I'm a plug freak an From what I seen at the show there is really no comparison.I know Ur A die hard BM guy but u should check out the tattoo's when they become available.Maybe I'll trade u one for a BM.:D

Well being As I am Not Kreskin an last time I tried I couldn't read into what someone else is thinking.Especially on the INTERNET. I can only go on what I SEE. It was plain to the eye a outright copy.To the point I could have taking a HABS out of the package an switched em on the table an the display guy would not have known the difference.I have no idea what u are talking about.It seems u have some hidden agenda.Good for U.U seem to agree an then disagree with my replies.Kinda like arguing with a woman.:tm: I really have no need to get involved in all the plug building BS that goes on up there.I get enough of it here in NJ.I am a Plug freak. I have many from all the builders.I even got some Salty's this yr.Imagine that.He tells me I may have a few more.Which is frightening really:D

I guarantee you Nib spent an hour that night closely inspecting every plug in his bag to figure out which one's he had :D

What's this plug war crap in the projo outdoor column? WTF is up with this drivel.

Blaming it on the internet isn't the entire story. Sure the internet helps it expand and can accelerate it but my feelings are that back in the old days when builders shared like we do in the plug forum, they did it because there were not many wooden salt water plugs out there. And they got along and helped the sport by providing quality plugs as an alternative to fishing bait. So the 3 or 4 guys doing it got along famously.
Go forward in time in this fast paced world we live in today and there's pressure to make a living so when money gets involved and competition causes animosity between some because of lying or whatever, then things get out of hand. Word travels quickly in the fishing community and rumors start up and accusations spread. Secondhand info gets pasted on the forums and it makes everyone look bad. If ya keep ya nose clean and have integrity then ya don't have to worry about all the backstabbing and two faced crap that goes on. It sounds like baby chit to me, that's why I will not go into the plug business. Someone once asked me if that kind of crap happens in my business and I really didn't know or think about it, but I guess it can happen. I just try to make a living, if another place cuts my price and gets a job then so be it, I am not a great salesman, I let the quality of my work speak for itself but these days you need more than that because most people just see dollar signs, not many are concerned with quality or know enough to care.
I wonder if the guy who wrote that article really thought that blurb in the paper would help sell newspapers:huh: I wonder why he thought it was neccesary to include it. I guess he reads the forums too.
So let's not start debating the plug wars here at S-B, we'll leave that to the other sites ;)

NIB, that's not what you told me. You said you COULD read others' minds on the internet.:musc:

Some nuts are tougher to crack than others.:wall:

Link? I tried to get it but didn't feel like loggin on to another site.......