Buh-Biden
See ya! Joe Biden. As many are predicting this could have been the shortest Presidential Campaign in some time....
For those that haven't seen it yet, here is Biden on Barak Obama.... “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” And were off! |
He didn't really say that....did he?
Thats not too intelligent. |
Oh he said it a couple of hours ago. It will blow up shortly. The liberals don't even know how to spin it at. They are still in shock. Will they try the "mis-quote" angle or "botched joke" approach.:huh:
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Biden is probably one of the brightest people in the Senate. His Obama comment seems to be dead on...
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It's like that billboard across the state "He's an articulate black man", no - it should properly read "He's an articulate man"...
If this is true and not taken out of context, it's more than a little oops. 'Course it will get piled on for the same reason a dog licks his you get the picture... |
Much ado about nothing...
I'd wager he meant clean as in clean cut. This is often how Biden speaks and seems to fit the context of his statement. And John, I don't think there's any getting around the fact that part of Obama's appeal is that he's one of the first black figures that's has universal appeal. Sounds like those who oppose political correctness are calling the kettle black. -spence |
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And the media is just waiting to find something to pounce on someone about.....you have to choose your words EXTREMELY carefully when you decide to run. |
The non-story angle doesn't play here, just ask John Kerry. News outlets like the conservative Drudge Report are already running.
http://www.drudgereport.com/ Even strict liberal Bloggers like DailyKos and Atrios are on it. What exactly is a "Mainstream" African American anyway? I know I wouldn't be comfortable asking a black man if he is 'mainstream' or not. Maccaca... "If not you'll get stuck in Iraq...." Welcome aboard Joe. |
Ant yet the Drudgereport dosn't even have the original source for the quote!
I like a man who can speak openly. This is what we need... -spence |
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So Obama is a pretty boy with loads of charisma, a cinderella story and no experience. Some tough words, but like I said he's dead on. -spence |
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm |
Looks like its cut and run from poor Joe among the liberal ranks. Here is the bloodthirsty nature of this game. Not only are the conservatives trying to whip this up, the Liberals who back other liberal candidates are stepping on his throat. This from an extremely popular super liberal blog.
From the Uber liberal DailyKos: It's sort of ironic that Biden stepped in it big time the same day he announces his exploratory committee for president. Let's recap: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” So some are saying that an editing decision could've made the quote sound worse. OK, I'm not a big Biden fan, so I wouldn't be disappointed to see him drop out. But I have to say this: what if the Observer punctuated casually? That is, what if there is supposed to be a comma before 'who,' making it a non-restrictive relative clause: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” Thus he would mean Obama is both a). the first mainstream African-American candidate for president and b). articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. It's within the realm of possibilities. But then is he saying that Carol Moseley Braun wasn't "mainstream" even though she represented the fifth largest state (in population) in the U.S. Senate? Is he saying that Jesse Jackson wasn't "mainstream" even though he won 11 primaries in 1988 and 6.9 million votes? The population of Delaware is 783,600. Heck, he won Michigan with 55% of the vote. So either 1) he's a patronizing %$%$%$%$%$%$%$, or 2) he's a historical revisionist %$%$%$%$%$%$%$. Either way, he's an %$%$%$%$%$%$%$. And either way, the racial element is inescapable. |
When he said "clean" do you think he was referring to his pers. hygeine or lack of scandal?
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Is someone like Sharpton mainstream? Is Jesse J. mainstream?
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Mainstream as in universal appeal. No, Sharpton and Jackson don't have mainstream appeal outside of the black communities.
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You'd think the called someone a Macca or something!
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If he's not the first he'd be among select company. Help me out by naming a few. -spence |
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It was all his opinion so he obviously thought Jesse and Shirley weren't viable, mainstream candidates. |
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As fate would have it he is scheduled to be on the Daily Show with John Stewart tonight. I wonder if he cancels. If he goes on, I am sure Stewart will throw a few cute little jabs at him, then they'll let him lick his wounds a bit as they both bash the President. Textobook slip-up triage.
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Fair enough - Its a new world with the net and youtube and anyone who doesn't adjust accordingly is going to be in trouble. |
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But in the end the people will decide, and his foreign policy expertise might just in the end make him a fine decider. -spence |
Another one for the Political forum :bgi:
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This just in... Al Sharpton takes a bath every day. :grins:
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Now that this silly story has been flushed from the news cycle, there is one observation worth making.
Biden was attacked from the far right and far left. To me this indicates: 1) Both extremes are very threatened by his running 2) He really is a centrist -spence |
Hoe did this end up here, instead of in the political section where its easier to ignore it?
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The far left wants the Kerrys and Bidens of the world out of the way in order to promote faces that aren't re-treads. They need to run with the 'grass roots' and 'fresh faces' theme that Howie Dean has instituted. So they stabbed Ole' Joe in the throat also. It is a Ruthless business. Don't get me wrong, Biden's qualifications are on par with the other candidates, but in my opinion, fair or not, he doesn't have the slightest chance. |
Joe Biden is a super Ball
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And it's pretty much gone. If there was any residue it will be washed clean by Bush's surge plan really requiring 35-48K troops and not the 20K he said they were sending. Oh, you meant all the troops? Hahaha, silly Administration. -spence |
i don't think it is as bad as when Ross Perot said "you people" though..
2008 is far enough away for this to evaporate. |
Spence, you're alone on this one, every talk show I listen to, left and right, said he is done.
I agree with you that what he said was not that bad, but we're two white guys. There is no way the Dems will back him now and he is the most qualified Dem candidate. Strike another win for the Hillary machine, she signed a good contract with the man downstairs. |
all this politically correctness is way over done and nauseating !
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not that articulate more like grandstanders with a preachy style of speaking imho and with Jessie Jackson you barely make out what he's saying... i think this is what Joe was "trying" to say.... although it didn't turn out that way ... and i think it's crazy to eliminate one's whole political career based upon a single sentence. Thats absurd. :hs: |
furthermore
I hereby Predict that Joe Biden will be our next president.
Thus far he's Still the Most presidential candidate i've seen. and with all the Blunders that Bush has done..... it's like comparing a mountain to a mole hill. |
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For one it's a long time till the election, and two Biden is perhaps one of the most qualified in the field. Regarding foreign policy, he's by my estimation clearly the leader of the pack. And this is going to be a huge qualifier come election time. -spence |
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