Don't TASE me bro
 

http://www.local10.com/news/14138122...s=mia&psp=news

Watch the entire video and tell me if the kid should have been arrested and TASED.

I'm curious what people think.

Utube also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&NR=1

The dude SHOULD NOT have been TASSED, IMHO

excessive force, wtf...5 cops on him and then they do that. OMG, sure hopes he sues..that was disturbing :hs:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

This is a raw video after they tasered him. The kid is kinda whacked out but WTF they tried to say he was INCITING A RIOT? It's on film so there's no disputing it now. NO way that kid was inciting a riot.

I would not have tazed him. But they were justified to do so, he was actively resisting. the second you pull your arm away you are actively resisting, but I do think they could have handled him with out the tazer

No offense to the officers, but they almost seemed to be acting like glorified "G-Men" (or hyper security guards).

Back in the day it would have been a simple billy club to the head.

I would rather be tazed than hit in the head with a billy club

what ever happened to freedom of speech? those cops should be fired and then tazered

cops that are well trained would know the techniques that are needed to place handcuffs on the subject. I can't believe it, that five ccps can't place the handcuffs on his wrist. These were campus cops? well that explains it.

I counted 7 cops total.

Freedom of speech gives no one the right to enter a public building refusing to follow the rules of the forum, refusing to follow the orders of police and to be a general, obnoxious PITA. I dont know the degree of resistance he put forth so I dont know if the Tazering was justifed but in this case (and in most) I give the cops the benefit of the doubt.

http://www.local10.com/news/14138122...s=mia&psp=news

I think they profiled him. If you read this article then you can understand why I say this. That's probably why they were standing around the microphone before he started speaking. Kids not an angel but I don't think he deserved to be arrested or tased.

His 1st amendment rights were violated.....that kid can sit back for life on the settlement he is gonna get! Can you say Gloria Allred??? All he did was ask a question and Kerry seemed to have no problem with it...he was gonna answer it!

What, if anything, did Kerry have to say about the incident???

The police in that instance initiated the confrontation, then escalated it. I think that they wanted to try out their new tazor. They simply had to let him finish his rant, and escort him out. End of story. Now they're gonna get sued and lose. Idiots.

You wouldn't believe the %$%$%$%$ that cops get away with. trust me on this one.

Absolutely uncalled for! it was kinda funny though.. perhaps I'm just sick like that :), maybe because it wasn't me getting tasered.

jducketts they were laughing about it on WZLX this morning, playing the ow ow ow ow thing over and over. It does kinda make you laugh when you hear it like that but it's not really funny if you were this kid.

Kerry, D-Mass., said Tuesday he regretted that a healthy discussion was interrupted, and said he never had a dialogue end that way in 37 years of public appearances. "Whatever happened, the police had a reason, had made their decision that there was something they needed to do. Then it's a law enforcement issue, not mine," he told The Associated Press in Washington.

What a shock, another cop bashing thread. I wonder what some of your experience with the police has been. You all think it's easy. Carry on and continue to sh!t on us.

UNCLE MATT I didn't start this thread to %$%$%$%$ on cops. I thought what these guys did was totally out of line. What's YOUR take on what happened from a law enforcement view. I'd be very interested in hearing your views on what happened here...after you watch the videos.

Uncle Matt....being a cop I thought you might have thicker skin for this type of discussion. I think that was way over the top! How bout all them LA Cop incidents......none of them were over the top??? All on video! I don't envy a Police Officer his job at all.....it has to be a tough job....naturally I cannot imagine as I have never been one. However, all the guy was doing was asking a question which....first of all he is allowed under the Constitution! Second he is allowed under the type of forum they were using.....so.....what did he do wrong?? Anyone???

IMO, most cops deserve the reputation they have.....

if it wasn't on camera, i'm sure they would've charged him A+B to cover themselves

There are way to many things wrong with this scenario. He didn't ask a simple question, he had pages of notes in his hand. He refused to give the microphone up when asked, even when it was turned off. The cops (7?) were already near him when he got to the microphone. They took him out through the middle of the crowd. They stopped inside the room to handcuff and zap him in front of the cameras and crowd. If he was really zapped it shouda left him very docile and quiet man as he recovered, not a screaming idiot. As the article pointed out he was a different person off camera.

I would have zapped him first to shut him up, sounded like a tree hugging seal lover to me.

The cops could have handled the situation with a little more finesse but the guy is an %$%$%$%$%$%$%$. The sad part is that every politician who speaks at some public fourm has to run the risk of some butthead who wants his 15 minutes or worse. Being a democracy there is not much we can do about it.
It would be interesting to know why they were so focused on him before and during his rant. Did he have a reputation on campus? Was he acting strange in the room prior to asking his question?

Shoulda zapped him just for being a dumb ass. He resisted when the cops confronted him. They had right to zap him.

I agree, it didn't look or sound like he got tasered. I think they should hold him and taser him again and see how he reacts, then we can tell if he was really tasered or looking for more notoriety for his web site.

I couldnt get to my camera in time to record his entrance but this guy basically comes running in with 4 or 5 cops in tow and says he has been running around trying to get in to ask a question and the cops are going to arrest him for it

From one of the witnesses.

Wish he got alot more than tazed......jackass.

I'm really curious to see Kerry's response. Democrats really court the police unions.

Clearly it's excessive force. Is that even really up for discussion? Pulling your arm away is actively resisting? You wonder why some people have a negative opinion of cops? So if your wife got in an argument with a cop, pulled her arm away, then got tazed, you'd be ok with that? BS

Drag him out of the room and write a ticket. I'm no veteran of political speeches, but I would guess that outbursts happen quite often.

Freedom of Speech does not give someone the right to be an A$$.

you say the cops instigated the situation.....there wouldn't have been a situation if the guy just calmy asked his question instead of ranting and raving and swearing....in a public forum....with a politician who probably gets threatened by some kind of whacko on almost a daily basis in the room.

he was fine while he was being escorted to the back of the room but once he tried to shake off the cops and make a run for it he got exactly what he deserved.

Cops are like IT Guys.....you don't even know they are there until something goes wrong, and they get no credit for all the time that things are going right.

Thats what they were trying to do....Charlie Chucklehead was making it difficult

This kid got exactly what he wanted. Set-up from the start. I'd like to know what went on outside before he came in.

The zapped the intern on ZLX, NOT FUNNY, and replaying it over and over.

I'm with you. There are a lot of nutjobs out there and cops are the ones who usually have to handle them. The minute someone starts resisting arrest, cops have to make a decision as to what type of force to use. They don't know if someone has a concealed weapon on them. If somone is going to resist, they are already acting in a threatening manner and who knows what they are going to do next. I'd hate to see a cop hurt or killed while trying to protect good citizens because they underrestimated what an idiot like this guy was going to do. This pansy, loudmouth, liberal punk just wanted to get attention for his "cause" and knew the consequences of his actions. He probably has never had to do any real work in his life and doesn't care about cops or firefighters or anyone else who puts their lives on the line to protect rectum heads like him.

Oh, and the part where he was screaming at the end was precious. I hope all of his buddies got a kick out of him screaming like a little baby. He probably pissed his pants when the cops threw him on the ground. And if he didn't then, I'm sure he did when they threw him in the jam with the real bad guys.

I reread my comments, and want it to be clear that my "you" was meant to be generic, and that I was arguing the issue, not directly speaking to any poster.

Here's the music video: :laughs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMkGOpAF4s

Too many details not known to know if he had a right to even be in the room. Just cause kerry is a Senator , doesn't mean that someone didn't arrange this thing for a private or invited audience. george bush is preaident but i have no right to walk into his next speach or whatever without a ticket! If he did have the right to be in the room , did he have the right to take up the whole time for his questions and commentary or do other people have the right to participate? Who decides that. If the police decided to shut him up , that is wrong. If someone truly in charge of this event said your time is up , leave , and he didn't , then the police should get him out.

On the other side , is the taser safe to be using it on people to shut someone up. The police like to say its not lethal but people have died. He could have died. If he had died , would his death have been justified for any reason seen on the tape. I think not.

I guess my opinion is that a court will hear why he is charged with some crimes and decide guilt or innocents. Another court will hear his civil suit to decide if he was abused and if he was , he will get money.

There is no doubt in my mind that if potentially lethal force is ever used by law enforcement , either a criminal or an officer must subsequently be charged with a crime. If either is found not guilty , the other needs to be charged and face a jury. Let the courts with full knowledge after gathering evidence decide the matter.

My gut feeling is that upon his refusal to leave when asked , the campus police should have formed a protective curtain between him and Kerry and the real police should have been called to deal with the guy , Predeiction , he gets charged and convicted of some minor crime to make sure the civil suit goes away. All the campus police officers rolls in this will be reviewed and the person or persons responsible for the use of the taser are let go for exercising poor judgement.

Who guards the guards .. wait until they get him off camera.. nighstick to the ribs I bet ..