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vineyardblues 12-13-2007 07:03 AM

Who on the redsox will be on the list?
 
Who do you think will be the surprise player on the list?
Rodger maybe? Even Pedro ?
Maybe Nomar, he always had the "jitters" lol

boot man 12-13-2007 07:15 AM

Roger, Trot, Nomar, Manny Alexander

BigFish 12-13-2007 07:57 AM

What list???

Fishin' Blues 12-13-2007 08:07 AM

Mo Vaughn, Clemens, Garciaparra

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2007 08:10 AM

No one on the Red Sox.....currently


If Pedro was on the Juice he should get his money back....

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2007 08:11 AM

I would love to See Gay-Rods name on that list

Andy D 12-13-2007 08:16 AM

It doesn't really matter who's on it . It's not like they will face any legal issues. A point was made on talk radio that if they can prove that any or all of these players recieved roids by mail from BALCO they are no different than someone that recieves a couple lbs pot by
U.P.S THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED. But that will never happen.
It will make for good reading/discussion but nothing else.
So I say who the F@%K cares

Bigcat 12-13-2007 08:41 AM

I bet A-Rod is on the list.
Jose Conseaco in a interview with the Steve Burton and the big show said he had the goods on A-Rod but would not spill the beans.
He did say it would be in his next book. :huh:

fishsmith 12-13-2007 10:32 AM

I see Rockets name all over CNN as being on the list ...... hmmmm, does this explain his rejuvenation as a Blue Jay????

EarnedStripes44 12-13-2007 10:52 AM

The Rocket

Uncle Matt 12-13-2007 12:13 PM

I'm thinking Gabe Kapler? Maybe Ortiz?

tynan19 12-13-2007 12:42 PM

List has been leaked according to WEEI. Check the web. Some pretty unsuspecting names. Tek and Tavarez to name a few but they were saying that the list doesn't make sense.

tynan19 12-13-2007 01:07 PM

Vaughn, Clemens, Damon, etc. etc.

Bronko 12-13-2007 01:20 PM

Varitek is on it.

Clogston29 12-13-2007 01:22 PM

There's not a name of the list that I saw that surprises me, including Veritek (takes alot to play catcher all season, muscle recovery for a catcher is as important as it is for a relief pitcher). I don't see how anybody can be surprised by anyone's name showing up on the list. Performance enhancers are a part of professional and amature sports. I would assume that if you're hurt and taking along time to come back or just not producing well, that alot of guys are questioning your commitment if your not taking something.

BigFish 12-13-2007 01:26 PM

I could care less! They have been beating this dead horse for too long!! The game is not what it used to be and I have lost all respect for it and the people who play it! They should be ashamed! Money ruins everything!

tynan19 12-13-2007 01:42 PM

Larry, what makes you happy, lol?

HookLine&Sinker 12-13-2007 01:56 PM

whens the list commin out to the public?

tynan19 12-13-2007 02:00 PM

Turn on WEEI. They are broadcasting the speech right now.

HookLine&Sinker 12-13-2007 02:03 PM

and on espn...


shut up and tell us the players!!!!!

Uncle Matt 12-13-2007 02:10 PM

Larry just needs an occassional hug.

BigFish 12-13-2007 02:20 PM

So I am grumpy! Tell me I don't have alot to be grumpy about?:rollem:

JohnR 12-13-2007 02:54 PM

Looks like Brendan Donnelly & Gange were the only recent Sox on the list and they were both shipped recently.

Sox names I've read so far:

Clemmens

Mo Vaughn

Varitek & Nomar are NOT on the list... (I searched)

You can download the report here: http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/...ell_report.pdf

tynan19 12-13-2007 02:54 PM

Turns out Tek is not on the list. Good news!

MartinD18 12-13-2007 03:04 PM

Read the communication between Theo and a Sox scout in '06 regarding Gagne. It seems they KNEW he was a juicer and didn't take care of himself passed on him then (for that reason or???) but they obviously chose to ignore those issues this year. That is sad. At least Gagne is gone but it speaks to the mindset of just one element in this whole mess, that of the owners/general managers.

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2007 03:23 PM

Looks like the media is ramping up to make Clemens the Scapegoat over this.

reading the report he got hooked up when in Toronto and then brought the guy with him to NY when he went there, then proceeded to hook up Pettite and Knoblauch while there.

Sox mentioned so far were Vaughn, Donnelly, and Gagne.....although they did mention a shipment being confiscated in 2000 heading for Arizona....hmmm

nightfighter 12-13-2007 04:23 PM

Guys on the other board, most reside....south of here....were drooling over the prospects of seeing names of major Red Sox players on the list. Sorry fellas, not seeing Papi's name up there with Clemens, Pettitte, Sheffield.........

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 546935)
Guys on the other board, most reside....south of here....were drooling over the prospects of seeing names of major Red Sox players on the list. Sorry fellas, not seeing Papi's name up there with Clemens, Pettitte, Sheffield.........

....Knoblauch, Giambi, Stanton

afterhours 12-13-2007 05:19 PM

rocket took the bit hit....he's the new baroid bonds. both of their records are tainted....bonds was about the records and roger was about the cha ching. about that list, those were just the guys caught- there are many more imo. new testing is needed- olympic level or better.

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 546935)
Guys on the other board, most reside....south of here....were drooling over the prospects of seeing names of major Red Sox players on the list. Sorry fellas, not seeing Papi's name up there with Clemens, Pettitte, Sheffield.........

And you KNOW I had to go over there and start some Crap.....:hee:

nightfighter 12-13-2007 06:53 PM

Yeah you did.....

And I quote you;
"I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

Ain't no Jersey boyz gonna trash talk our teams with Kevin here to meat out the discipline and put all in proper perspective! Priceless:claps:

Slipknot 12-13-2007 06:58 PM

so the last Yankee world series win is tainted and should get an ASTERIK!!!!!! right? I guess the new york post should do a story about that now :rollem:
i've heard enough of this cheating crap in sports.

BigFish 12-13-2007 07:03 PM

I am with you Slip!:btu:

Sorry....you don't mind if I pass through while you are workin' do you?:laughs::rotfl::bl:

t.orlando 12-13-2007 07:09 PM

Did any of you really think that Mitchell would name any of his fellow Red Sox???? So much for an impartial report. All a bunch of hearsay crap anyway. Selig is the one that looks the worst in this whole thing.

Slipknot 12-13-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 547002)
I am with you Slip!:btu:

Sorry....you don't mind if I pass through while you are workin' do you?:laughs::rotfl::bl:


:rotf3::rotf3: :D

Andy D 12-13-2007 07:24 PM

The " report " said there was no papertrail (canceled checks ect.) and no positive piss test that links Clemmens just the testimony of the person who injected him. Although the rest of his testimony was right on . I think all named in the report are guilty but I also think that alot of names were left off or just not persued. :rtfm:

vineyardblues 12-13-2007 09:48 PM

What freakin joke, all the money everyone gets paid all the hype on drugs, court time ....all for what ?

TAKE a F(*&%(kin blood test ...end of subject !!!
I thought Jimmy Hoffa was dead, nice union :faga:
VB

The Dad Fisherman 12-14-2007 08:22 AM

One of the guys questioned my ability to understand the subtle nuances of Python-esque humor. So I let him Have it....Old Kniggit style :hee:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 546997)
Yeah you did.....

And I quote you;
"I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

Ain't no Jersey boyz gonna trash talk our teams with Kevin here to meat out the discipline and put all in proper perspective! Priceless:claps:


Rockfish9 12-14-2007 09:31 AM

I'm with Slip, I'm tired of hearing about cheating, what ever happend to playing for the love of the game....

Gagne must have got a placebo before he came here....

The Dad Fisherman 12-14-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 547133)
Gagne must have got a placebo before he came here....


I don't know, that would mean he would be a part of a "Control" group, and from what I saw he didn't exhibit much of that


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