Combined NC Beach Siene Carnage Video Thread
 

DISGUSTING!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbhE-tqNNc

makes me SICK watching that

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Are those guys actually promoting themselves with that??? I can't believe that sort of thing is still allowed, absolutely unbelievable?!!

That just made me sick to my stomach, I can't believe that is aloud

That is the most disgusting display of the

RAPING of our RESOURCE/FISHERY that i've ever witnessed.

These are the things that gives PETA and the rest of the tree-hugging universe ALL the ammunition that they need.

I think I'll go PUKE, now! How can those schlubs sleep at night?

w th fuuuuuuu

I'd like to seal club them guys ... right on that beach .. :gorez:
totally P's me off ...

Stripers netted from the beach in NC ..WOW
 

This just in from the SNESA email. That's a whole lotta fish comin out of the water.



this is what is going on in North Carolina right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbhE-tqNNc
Capt. Jim White

yeah, thats a bummer to watch, but...add up all the members here and add up the catches in a night from the members who were out fishing and its about the same as that haul. Who is worse??

The stripers belong to everyone not just recreational anglers.

That makes me sick, its just wrong , somebody needs to cut all those nets.

I'd wager the author of the video isn't an advocate for their actions.

-spence

Draggers do worse in our waters east of Chatham in the fall.

While that may be true from a Catch perspective,

our release ratio is quite another factor and a huge part of NE surfcasting.

Also, the majority of our NE kill is NOT dinks. There was a SIGNIFICANT number of shoolies in that haul. A DISGUSTING number of teeny fish that will never become Big Gurls.

I've no problem with the commershes taking their allotted amount,

but that sheeeet cain't be legal, so many rats, huh Nebe!??

I'm merging this with the other thread on this subject.

Looks like we have a new video to show on Truck Seining instead of the one on Long Island ten years ago. Painful to watch, eh?

"Who is worse??"


Are you kidding me???
Dude, you definately like to stir the pot.

Sure is John. That was yesterday too. What's striper a pound down there right now. That guys truck ain't big nuff to hold that many fish either.

MY GOD!!!

That simply is horrifying.

Comparing us to that is silly.None of us individually or as a whole(meaning sb.com members) will ever kill that many fish in a lifetime,especially that many undersized fish.

Carnage!!
 

Yeah ... I call those guys fishermen all right, and a few more names that shouldn't be said here because it's a family oriented site.

Outerbanks striper fishing?
 

As posted on You Tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbhE-tqNNc

I missed seeing your thread otherwise I wouldn't have posted it again.

that can't be legal, even during the comercial season.

Though it may seem carnage and a blow to the Striped Bass population, in three days these guys could never ever come close to the carnage imposed on bass by the recreational sector of the striped bass fishery along the easterb seaboard.

For example, one only had to sit by the Cape Cod Canal's banks during herring season to see and count all the fish going across Rt. 6 or into trunks and truck bed coolers. Then multiply that by the several thousand miles of Atlantic coastline and millions of fisherman.

Though abhorant, the numbers in this video don't come close.

it makes you wonder
 

just how big the population is

and how large it must remain

to sustain itself

And yet the rod and reel guys here in Mass catch hell for their fishery, by and large a very selective fishery with regard to size limits. If all commercial fishing were forced to use circle hook and handline we might just have sustainable fisheries...

And then get shoveled over the side in a lot of cases to rot b/c the season is closed.

Nobody likes seeing sausage made, but right now it is legal... change the system, change the tactics.....

Couldn't agree more.

Typical "shock" video where everyone gets all up in arms without ever considering the big picture, or better yet, the facts.

Change the law. Being a fish that migrates presents a tough challenge state to state. Whatever your opinion, it's legal. Whether by dribs and drabs or one fell swoop makes no difference to the final total and if reported landings are to be believed, Recs are definately the leaders over all. Slot limits, trophy tags, FDA inspection, restricting practices? All open options.
Again, change the law.

The posting of that video is like driving around with Bambi on the hood, common sense says don't do it. How bout posting the daily stat sheet from fish house's:smash: people who video that crap is asking for it.

I can't see the video on this computer and I am sure it would disgust me... However, I also agree that the commercial harvest pails in comparison to the rec. harvest in terms of #'s of stripers.

In 1999 the rec harvest was 6000 metric tons and the commercial harvest 3000 metric tons. In 2005 the rec harvest was 11,900 metric tons and the commercial harvest was still 3000 metric tons.

Probably comparable to a good day on upper Narragansett Bay this past June when the menhaden blitz was going on.
The seiners have a quota - when they fill it it's over for them. I used to get upset over this but not anymore.
DZ

are all of the guys freaking out opposed to all commercial fishing?

This doesn't bother me at all. very slow , very inefficient.

I would wager that the take in this three day season is a drop in the bucket compared to the Mass. comm season.

And neither of those are even on the same chart if you start comparing to what mid-water trawlers are doing to other species.

But I guess only us rec.'s are allowed to eat striped bass....

THINK

It's a 3 day season down there. All of the fish kept have to be tagged. Their quota is a little more than half of Mass' quota. There are commercial pinhookers up here who can put 800 pounds or more in the boat in one day. Multiply that by a full season. The discards left on the beach are troubling, but what about our release mortality up here, rec and comm alike? Some fish eat a broken off loaded pogy that was used to yo-yo. Some obviously survive and grow--others die. What's the percentage either way? How many comms and recs drift live eels, and let the fish run for a 10 count before setting up on it. How many of those fish wind up gut hooked? Fish under 34" will eat an eel, and can't be kept commercially. Some of them die after taking an eel, or another live bait, all the way down. When you're fishing for the dollar, even as a pinhooker, you often don't spend the time to properly release a short fish, as time is money. How many pinhookers cull? It's illegal, but are you all so naive to think that a guy will release a 30 pounder instead of dumping a 35" fish already dead in the box, when the one he just caught is worth twice the money?

It's an ugly method, I'll grant you that. How much cleaner are our hands?

Thank you.

and to reply to bassdawg, If i had my way we would only be allowed to keep schoolies and fish over 40 lbs..

schoolies are good because there are more males in the bunch.
over 40 is good because they have had dozens of opportunities to spawn.

Yea, and damn river's don't help much either.

FYI...
28" limit and 50 fish total .......more in HTML

NC rules and regulations regarding commercial beach seining...

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These are the penalties for those that break the commercial laws.... in PDF

IMHO it's a bloody joke...

How come pictures like this don't get people outraged. More fish are most likely killed and for what? A picture on the wall and to feed the neighbors. Although i do agree, filming anytype of commercial fishing especially of the beloved striped bass should be a no no, gets everyones panties all up in a bunch

wasn't there a truck commercial a while back where the guy was fishing from his pickup truck and landed his fish by driving up the beach with the rod hanging off of the back of his truck hauling the beast out of the water? maybe it was a beer commercial, this is the exact polar opposite of "skishing", a brand new extreme sport, "liquored-up hillbillie pickup truck fishing"....don't they have piping plovers in NC ?

DZ-

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video - probably similar kills when the pogies have been so concentrated in our own Bay the past couple years.