Marijuana Decriminalization Bill
 

Good idea?
Seems to me - even though in the words of David Byrne, "I have tried marijuana, I get nervous every time."
The Dutch seem to be doing pretty well not spending money sending people to jail for drugs. We've got the largest percentage of people in prison in the western world.

"Legalize it, and I will advertise it...."
~Peter Tosh


Honestly, there are far more serious pressing issues that the money used to bust people smoking pot could be used for IMHO.

Im all for it.

alcohol is far more destructive than herb.. :smokin:

makes sense to me.

A fine for possessing small amounts would save a lot of taxpayers dollars. There is way too much time and money spent prosecuting pot cases in court. I do feel that if someone is caught with a large amoount, they should be prosecuted for intent to distribute.

With the "three stikes" law - it's possible to go to jail for the rest of your life over a bag of pot.
Police and DEA agents working on drug investigations cost becoup - particularly with their retirement packages. Same thing with the Coast Guard - a tremendous amount of money and resources.
Is this cycle of long imprisonment and costly enforcement realistically sustainable? Has it even made a difference?

:smokin:

I'll second that...does not make sense to me that booze can be legal and pot not...
at the least decriminialize it...

The Fact that it is illegal is what makes
it profitable ..... and worth 10 - 20 times
it's real value...

Look what happened during alcohol prohibition

it was a mistake when Richard Nixon
started the counter culture WAR
and it's been costing the tax payer ever since.

Yes.Legalize it.

Partnership for a drug free America,our government and the cops need to get their priorities in order.They focus almost exclusively on weed when it comes to talking to America's youth about drugs.Guess they forgot about crack,meth and smack...you know those highly addictive drugs that actually kill people and ruin families.

Weed really does have medicinal purposes both physical and mental.

The most dangerous thing about weed is its illegality.Its illegality promotes curiosity and that leads to use which means it has to be done behind closed doors with other illegal things.At some point in time the person smoking illegal weed will more than likely encounter someone doing illegal dope like crack etc....."try this."The only thing that makes weed a "gateway" drug is that the stupid laws governing weed has put it in the same category as crack,heroin,meth etc.

Btw I don't smoke pot.I'm just using common sense.

And before someone brings up alcohol as being legal lets not forget billions of $$$ is spent advertizing drinking alcohol as being "fun".Billions spent.

legalize it >>>>>....need a price drop ><><:uhuh:

[QUOTE=Karl F/2463[/url]

seen guys have one martini and think they are King freaking Kong...wanna fight the world...yet.. if they'd been puffin, alll they woulda wanted is a cheeseburger... and a nap...




good one..

Ben and Jerrys and a nap.

But seriously, the only thing i would worry about is people driving. Similar to alcohol it makes you less aware and less reactive, therefore causing accidents on the road. Since some people are just dumb and not stoned it may be tough for a cop to tell if theyre stoned or just plain dumb sometimes

America's real drug problem
 

are the prescription drugs...

the abuse has risen 700%

and yet the Doctor's keep prescribing
all this crap that makes people commit suicide
or they die from an over dose...
especially when combined with BOOZE

and that stuff is all legal

ridiculous as hell

it will never be legal. too many nonsmokers making the rules. they just don't get it and never will

im all for it.. booze (especially to much) is bad news..you end up in fights, doing dumb s#$%^, and regretting things the day after. with smoke you just chill out, relax, and enjoy what you are into doing.

the price of govt regulation, policing, prisons. all could be spent on better more important issues. i agree its not a gateway to harder drugs. never was for me at least.. cigs and booze was 1st things i did when i was young, still smokin cigs and got alot of incidents w/ alcohol i wish never happend. weed on the other hand..cant say its personally hurt me really. well wait there was that one time with the police.... :smokin:

:deadhorse:

oh yeah my uncle just scored a license to smoke..(100% disabled) i gotta say i am f$%^&*$ jealous. hopefully w/ people starting to have licenses to smoke it will work (hopefully) and help other people (polititans) realize its not that bad.

I definately say make it legal.The problem is that it can be
very dangerous if the quality is too high (pun intended) for
someone who doesn't smoke often.There is stuff out there
that will knock even the most experienced on thier arse :bl:

pots heads
 

thats right your all wrong. how many peaple have been killed by a stoned driver . or beat his girl friend up high on pot.. 0 its a joke ...tax it and sell it like booze... revise woodstock .problem is to many anti smokers....:cens::cens::cens:

Backbeach and I have an ongoing debate about this. Surprised he hasn't dropped in the first salvo... :^)

I'm for decriminalization all the way. Dozens of legal things more dangerous than smoke. I don't even smoke. (Anymore):as:
Probably wouldn't start either if it was legal, though I'd indulge in an occasional cookie.

How many violent crimes, suicides, etc.. related to it every year? Damn near none as far as I know. I'd much rather deal with someone on smoke than half in the bag drinking, though I doubt alchohol abuse would decrease if Marijuana was legal.

But even that Worst Case scenario just means they'll find you asleep on the Couch in your underwear with Bright Orange Finger Tips hugging a half empty 2 liter bottle of Coke.

Also, I think another reason that hinders its legalization is that it would be almost impossible to control. It is easily grown, in sand, mud, soil, hell rocks and never mind hydro:devil2:

I also do not understand how alcohol can be legal and pot not. I have the "pleasure" of slinging drinks and I gotta say, booze turns 50% of the people into instant A-hole.
I know I would much rather be passing a bong at a hash bar than giving 21yr olds a few drinks w/shots=bad news.

The answer to why alcohol is legal and pot isn't is simple. Money. Big companies produce, market and sell alcohol. Pot is grown in second and third world countries and sold by some guy with dirty hair standing on the corner playing hacky sack. If Big Business, Inc. could find a way to get rich monopolizing the sale of weed, it probably would become legal. Then it would be reulated and the small time dealers would be stuck selling Phish bootlegs and magic mushrooms.

Absolutely and when and if it ever happens I will be seriously investing in Twinkie futures at Hostess Foods.

:smokin: chasing down pot smokers and prosecuiting them is a waste of valuable time and resources for law enforcement.

Just look at your local court reports in the papers. Pot arrest, six months without a finding, 50.00 bucks court fees, no record.

Drunk driving 1st offense, 45 day license suspension, Alchohol counseling ( which you pay for 1000.00) 400.00 +/- court fees, record.

We have better things to worry about. Crack, unregistered guns on the street, Republicans.

Start investing in cheetos and dorritos now

Saw an interesting show several years ago and the Nixon War on Drugs was a result of our great nation sending boys to Vietnam and having them come home hopelessly hooked on drugs, including heroin and opium. Weed got caught in the net, right or wrong, who knows, but with it being illegal now it serves as a gateway to other substances like Basswipe described...

I think the dorito's with mild salsa is the best munchie resolver.

:rotf2: Did this happen TDF?

Its legal like tobacco is legal because of political graft

I was gonna post something but I forgot..
Dave's not here Man...
I remember when i was a kid..I thought Our Country would be so cool cause it would be my generation there to run it...
What the Hell happened..The dweeb I usta shoot spitballs at in the 5th grade is running the country..
They could pack it like cigarettes,sell it in liquor stores an tax the hell out of it.When U remove the money spent on all forms of enforcement and add the new revenue.I you would be talking about some large figures..
Here's what it comes down to..
Pot Smokers don't vote..
Right wing southern belt religious fanatics vote.How the hell else do u get George Bush for 2 tours..
Pipe Dreams..

If it ever does become legal, I will give a 30% discount to all SB.com members on some of the sickest bongs you will ever see in your life :hihi:

buy the S-B Brand chip

has a coupon inside

for m&D's :btu:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ob1/dorito.jpg

wow, something we all agree on. this doesn't happen too often....

Another example of Hedonism that is slowly bringing down society. History has shown that when we live in this "if it feels good do it" attitude ,,,it has produced men and women that are lazy, lustful and gluttonous. It demises. Everyone agrees that healthy families are the foundation to all cultures,,no brain er right? So how will legalizing weed attributed to a better society, it doesn't. It will only blind side us like other things the government has done that puts money in front of people. And when parents look at there kids and ask what went wrong don't forget to look in the mirror.

700% increase in prescription drugs.???? blame doctors - blame government - blame insurance companies - just blame. Looking at old footage from an amusement park of hundreds of people there wasn't one obese person in that tape. Today?? Family members have so many personnel issues that instead of them supporting each other they can't... so no chit there are false/temporary fixes to fill in the void before they go to drugs and counseling. IMO people will listen for about 1/2 hour then your on your own...go find something to keep you happy.

RITZ CRACKERS & ICE CREAM >>>

:eyes:

Mikey, you would definetly have to be stoned to think that Ritz crackers and Ice Cream go well together.

No Goose!
700% increase in prescription drug deaths from 2002 -2004

qoute:
A recent analysis of U.S. death certificates from the last two decades shows a sharp increase in accidental deaths due to at-home prescription drug use. According to the Associated Press, researchers “blame soaring home use of prescription painkillers and other potent drugs, which 25 years ago were given mainly inside hospitals.” The study found that “Deaths from medication mistakes at home increased from 1,132 deaths in 1983 to 12,426 in 2004. Adjusted for population growth, that amounts to an increase of more than 700 percent during that time.”
~
rav-
the legalization of a single drug... not every single one which is a Regan era tactic... You try to discuss just POT and instantly the conversation switches over to Cocaine and or heroin and others..
speed ...whatever just to take you off topic and lump them all together for the purpose of COMPLETELY avoiding the issue.
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(it's comparable to saying we should legalize BEER ...then also saying: well then people are gonna be chugging a quart of jack daniels and doin Shots and watching girls strip off their clothes at a strip club.) the subject of beer legalization being swept away by
issues of morality and the abuse of hard liquor..... (it's a game)
a ploy , a tactic to avoid the issue every time....
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legalization is what takes the profitability out of it...weed just weed.
making it less apt to be smuggled or distributed.
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I watched the drug movie last night and it was comical watching
Tricky #^&#^&#^&#^& Nixon ,"Ronald Regan and wife" and Bill Clinton all
claiming to have turned the war on drugs around with their new proposals for tougher laws and prosecuting drug offenders.

it hasn't worked after spending over a trillion dollars !!!!

it's the wrong approach...all it did was make it more profitable and desirable and in effect they caused the drug problem by making it profitable at ten times to twenty times it's true value.

I can tell you this, in my line of work I have seen the hell that the abuse of "legal" drugs have wreaked on people. It is a crime that these perscription drug companies turn this stuff out on a population and it destroys lives and families. Oxycontin is worse than herion, but, "my doctor gave it to me, it must be ok." I've seen that little pill can turn a hard working productive human being into a maniac. I haven't seen pot do that, and I have seen Budweiser do it.

I'd rather deal with someone on a bit of weed than a 12 pack of Bud anyday.

Well, unless you have terminal cancer, crippling back pain, etc. and the only reason you can now sleep through the night or go through life without blowing your brains out is extended release narcotic painkillers (i.e. Oxycontin). There are two sides to the OC story. Admittedly, the other side is that drug addicts like to crush them up to get the 12 hr dose all at once, and doctors can be criminals like anyone else.

Anyway, I don't see a reason for pot to be illegal either. Make it illegal to drive high and for kids - that's all that's needed.

There's no constitutional basis for the government to be able to legislate what people put into their own bodies.

Steve ;;

then I musta been high ><. F#$%^&*() ran out of crackers ;;;;

Now I,m waking up in the morning && the f #$%^&*( bed is full of F #$%^&*( popicicle stick ????:humpty: