Palin? The race is over, all hail Pres Obama
 

Who the heck is Palin? Can you imagine the debates between her and Biden?
Its all over for McCain.

I don't know Jim, I think this is a very interesting pick. Doesn't make me want to NOT vote McCain, but I want to know more. It does however, take away the inexperience charge against Obama doesn't it? I think it's a pretty good pick.

Hillary must be cheering, broke that glass celing, eh Hil? Just not how you thought it would happen right?:rotf2:

I just read that she fishes!
You are right, its wait and see since we know so little of her. I think that the VPs for both parties are a very good balance to the candidates.

I have read in National Fisherman that she is very well liked up there, a strong supporter of the fisheries, both commercial and rec alike. That's a plus for those of us on this site. We shall see....

Yep - Cute too :hihi:

A few people have been calling for this a little while now - Hi Phib :wavey:

Its a little funny, and expected that the Obama campaign is syaing that experieicne os off teh table, but noone suggested Iraq is off the table , or the "same old government" is off the table with Biden. He was a supporter of the invasion and a 30+ year politician

I can imagine--I'll bet you she chews that old retread up and spits him out. :humpty:

She's hauled crap traps for a living, and her nickname when she played basketball was "The Barracuda".

cool, now Im getting excited

This may lead to a "cat fight" in 2012.

Total cougar. Hot.

Her hubby was a comm fisherman....I can't say that I like McCain, but I like McCain a lot more with her...

How the hell is she going to help McCain, who can't even spell domestic policy, get this country turned around?
Maybe you give her foreign policy as she lives outside of the lower 48.

This almost smells like a concession on McCain's part, like when Ferraro was VP, Mondale lost to Reagan in the worst landslide since 1972.

I will be very interested in hearing her speak, I just don't know what the Republicans are thinking about this one? The mayor of Wasalla, Alaska comes to Washington.

Guns, fishing rods, wilderness women...big family, kick ass and take name kind of babe, she is smart, conservative, gets %$%$%$%$ done, has done a lot for Alaska...and she is hot too.. I like her, much more likeable than hillary.:)

She will appeal to many people on both sides.:uhuh:

More executive experience than both Obama + Binen combined (they are just legislators)


I have to hand it to the McCain Campain for the execution of this. Both in the timing and keeping a lid on it until today. This has dwarfed the "big speech" that obama made, you don't even hear about it. You know that was suppose to take over the media for the weekend... The Republican machinery is back in gear...getouttheway.

Sara will appeal to Americans.

experience in Wash doesn't count

Abe Lincoln - 2 years House of reps.
Ulysses S. Grant – no political experience
Rutherford B. Hayes - 5 years as Gov.
Chester A. Arthur – no political experience
Grover Cleveland – 2 years as Gov. of NY
William McKinley – 4 as Gov of NY
Theodore Roosevelt -1 year as Gov of NY
William Howard Taft – total of 3 years in elected positions in Cuba and the Philippians
Woodrow Wilson – 2 years as Gov. of NJ
Franklin D. Roosevelt- 3 years as Gov. of NY
Harry S. Truman – 1 year as VP
How much National and international experience did
Ronald Regan Get in his 8 years as Gov of Ca.?
George H. W. Bush – 1 director of CIA
George W. Bush – 5 years as Gov of TX

Sarah Palin had a child with down syndomre in april '08. How much love and care can she provide as VP?

Her political resume is short, McCain is 72 and I don't think she has anymore experience than Obama.

My vote is with McCain but I don't like this VP choice, no matter how easy she is on the eyes.

Looks like Obama in 08.

thats a very interesting list Bill. That should be shared by the candidates

I think she may hurt McCain becuase of his age and her lack of experience. People are going to be asking, if he dies, how would she be as president. I think its a bigger leap for most to see her rather than Obama. The more I think about this, the more I think McCain is all done. We'll see, I too have not heard her speak. She may have the personality to turn it around.

Stick a fork in the Republicans, like I said earlier, Mondale/Ferraro

http://wonkette.com/assets/resources...h_palin_ap.jpg
Damn....I'd like to go stumping with her.

My gues is she must have a lot on the ball, consider this. How easy would it be for a female to be elected in a state like Alaska??? Oilmen, fisherman, hunters, trappers,...... not exactly your soft and fuzzy type crowd. I would see her being elected in California much more quickly than Alaska. My guess is she will win a lot of people over.

It's funny now to watch the Obama camp talk about her lack of experience. I think I've had enough of his crap already.

Desperate people make desperate decisions.

I'd have to agree.

I'm sure her good looks and NRA membership will go a long way towards solving the looming energy crisis.

-spence

I feel warmer already.

She's brilliant with working numbers which gets my vote. She may make a few enemies among her own party who have depended on PORK BELLY spending to get re-elected all these years to remain in their seats.
She will be McCain's "pit bull" and the republicans will balance the budget within his 8 years as President.

The DEMS are worried and have already started the search for any negatives but I think she is "Squeeky Clean". (other than a few left over scales from the fish she and her husband caught as commercial fishers). She'll win over the Christian coallition that thought Joe Biden ( an alledged catholic) until he stated that he would not oppose ROE VS WADE.

McCain will be a single term president, he's too old.

And while I'm sure she will be put on the attack, she'd going to have to find some credibility somewhere to make any of it stick.

I completely disagree with Mike P. above on the debates. Biden is a good speaker with a library of anecdotes and analysis he can bring to bear.

She has a good life story for sure, but at the end of the day she'll just be spinning rehearsed talking points.

-spence

You're not voting for her, your voting for him..........

Bush the 41st as C.I.A. director probably did more than most presidents ever do to influence foreign policy.:rocketem:

All we have heard from John McCain for months is, Barack Obama is too young. Barack Obama is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief. Who do you want answering the phone in the White House at three a.m.? Blah, blah, blah.
Doesn't McCain undercut his own message by naming someone even younger and more inexperienced than Obama to be his running mate?

My own opinion is that for a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to be as they say "a heartbeat away from the presidency" is irresponsible.

agian.. desperate people make desperate decisions.

Actually as VP, she has more experience governing than Obama has as P canidate.

Yup.....McCain is an inept candidate challenging a wildly popular incumbent. :rollem:

Do you really think that it was Ferraro who caused Mondale to lose? :hs:

wait till the media starts "digging" into her life.I hope there's not many ghosts.I can't wait for the debates.

Biden is a rambling speaker who can't stay on point, assuming he ever gets to the point. He's infamous for it.

Biden can't even hold an audience in the Iowa Democratic caucuses. :doh:

I bet they were on the fence with a couple of people then decided they needed more star-power.

No I don't think that, however Mondale and Ferraro did not stand a chance, I think she was nominated for the VP as a token gesture not as an attempt to beat Reagan

Well, I said good and not great ;)

This isn't a Senate hearing where the point is to make your statement rather than ask questions. The debates don't give you much opportunity to be long winded.

-spence

Like voting for a 148 day wonder?

My initial reaction was disappointment but the more I learn about her I'm seeing this as an extremely shrewd political maneuver. There's a whole lot of disenfranchised cougars out there who are already applauding the choice. 80% bi-partisan support in her state. Neither JM or BHO can make that claim.

I think the Obama crowd is a little scared right now. He should have grabbed Hillary when he had the chance. Personally I don't see Biden doing much for him.

Obama talks about CHANGE...... Biden has been in DC for what, 30 years ? That to me sounds like same old, same old.... to me. Not change.....

And on the debates; I think Biden will get chewed up. A heckler would probably drive him nuts and totally off topic.


Like Swimmer pointed out though. The main race is between Obama and John McCain. Hopefully the Reps. smoke em.

I plagiarized this verbatim from a post on another website, which pretty much sums it up:

Against Ramblin' Joe? You may be surprised.

1.Biden is terrible off the prompter - a legend on Capitol Hill.
2. He can't hit her too hard because she's a chick. Hillary used this to her advantage countless times in debates.
3. Expectations will be lower for her so all she has to do is stay even.
4. We don't know yet how good she is in a debate. She may be a killer.
5. VP debates don't win elections. Dan Quayle was OWNED by Lloyd Bentsen but Dukakis still had to drive his tank back to Taxachusetts afer the election, didn't he?

Her Kids have weird names :hee:

Track, Bristol., Willow, Piper, and Trig