Palin - Be afraid?
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_123205.html

Watch the entire video, you decide.

-spence

I'll admit I didn't watch the whole vid. But then again I don't care. Religious views aren't being voted on. And we are voting for the President, not Vice President.

Maybe the MESSIAH will want to be sworn in on the Koran instead of a bible if he wins?? If we bring up HIS religion or parents we are labeled racists for picking on them. But bring a white woman on the ticket and it is a field day...... Everyone has a skeleton or 2 in their closet. Obama is no different I'd bet.

I hope McCain/ Palin knock em out of the water come Nov. 4th. I really am getting sick of looking and seeing Obamas picture EVERYWHERE

Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

riiiiiiight

kool aid anyone?

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did, yet it's clear that Palin believes the war in Iraq is the United States of America following her GOD's word.

-spence

Putting religion aside. Are you telling me you are for socialism ? Because that is what Obama wants to bring.

My god moonbats are scary. You really don't want to compare religious views and associations between VP candidate Palin and Presiential candidate Barak Hussein Obama Reverend Wright do you?

I'll tell you what. At a minimum McCain has the left and the pajama-hadeen bloggers scrambling.

Hello, its September, Wright is long gone.

NVA wore pajamas and look at what they did to the US military.

Gotta respect the pajamas.

Mac, time to get a few of these

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21

:uhuh:

good idea. And maybe a couple of these http://www.democraticstuff.com/Obama...-p/ys23239.htm

That way when Obama loses ya can put one on the lawn and maybe the house won't get ransacked:tooth:

Funny, I bring up something I saw about Palin, and Palin alone...

And you can't bring yourselves to deal with the issue.

John McCain (the real John McCain) once remarked about evangelical conservatives as "agents of intolerance" and yet he's picked one to be his number two...

-spence

I just watched her speach in that link Spence.. Yes i am afraid. Anyone who thinks that the war in Iraq is God's wishes and that we are acting on the word of god is a quack in my book. Unless of course, goverment contractors are the true God.. :hs:


* Oh and what struck me as exceptionally wierd was the fact that the Chruch's drumset was behind a lexan barricade. Things must get pretty rowdy in alaska if a Church has to protect its drummer from flying beer bottles.... :hihi:

The Karl Rove school of politics 2008 edition:eyes:. Opponents press ideas of the "messiah Obama...descending from the heavens" professing to be savior of the american people and credit this to his campaign. This is an attempt to drive a wedge right in between evangelicals and widespread support for Obama. Now my recollection of the bible is a bit hazy but I vaguely recall that upon his arrival it will be the anti-christ who will claim to be christ. This undermines Obama's widespread appeal in the mind of the devout christian voter.

This is a bit of a stretch but a similar trangression in Islam would be the depiction/illustration of god in human form, its blasphemy. Obama fixtured amongst the likes of the holy is a trangression against the faith of practicing christians & evangelicals eventhough it is Sean Hannity who has christened him "the annointed one"

That would be 'dubya' :hihi:

Ok, first things first . the drums. the drums are behind the plexiglass for miking purposes. That way the sound of the drums does not bleed into the other instruments microphones.

Now, Palin, I listened and guess I missed the part that the war was a messianic quest. She said that you need to pray for the troops, that the troops are sent by their leaders to do the work of god. She didnt say it in some hate filled wacky religious way, she said in in the sense that our country is doing the right thing. Is that wrong? My little girl starts first grade today and will stand up and say "One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible.....
so, isnt Palin just saying that. How many times as Barak spoke about god? What do people mean when the say bless our troops? Its really a HUGE strtch to paint her as a religious wacko, she was presenting to a CHURCH's graduating class.

My observation is that she was all over the place and not a very good speaker

I want to answer this question NO, but I first I need you to define socialism for me if you would please. Are we talking socialism in all its facets or are we talking the VA Hospital system, social security or welfare?

That Eisenhower is a religious kook too, ......blessing of God, what a nut job!

Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The
hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.
In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!

Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great
and noble undertaking.


SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower

Eisenhower is dead and there's no Nazis.

There are commies.:hihi:

However, throughout history, US leaders have invoked God in their speeches. Its in our pledge and on our currency. I am not religious but have no fear of religion, unless its followers try to impose their beliefs on me.

Fear of religion is a tactic used by the Democrats. Plain and simple.
Its never worked in the past and it wont work now.

Are you respecting the pajamas yet?

It worked great when the majority was god fearing and went to church every Sunday.

I'm pretty sure a hot topic on the right is fear of muslim extremists, who just happen to be doing what they're doing in the name of religion.
Would you like to cite examples of the left using fear of religion?

thanks for clearing up the drum thing Jim. That makes sense. However, her speech did not. Regardless of wether she said it was Gods will or not....Anyone who speaks the word of god with certainty makes no sense to me. Furthermore, anyone who SAYS that they speak the word of god while pushing any agenda other than one that is 100% religious is not to be trusted... especially in politics. End of story. When was the last time you had a beer with god and worked out a game plan?? what did he say? hey, go invade Iraq please.. i want you to tell everyone I said it was OK.... What a crock.

Lord help us

Nebe,

Dubya is the sitting republican president right, why was he not at the Republican convention, its the most important event on his parties political event calendar and he's not even in the nosebleeds. He did not have to do hurricane duty this time around (not that he did it during the first "huge storm"). The rumor mill is saying he was disinvited by McCain after Rove's initial dissapproval of Palin as VP.

I know. I must give props to Mccain for distancing himself from Bush..

You need to read the Declaration of Indepenence and the Constitution, also, hand over you $ to me, its all printed with the name God on it :lm:

apples and oranges. God does not tell me how i should spend my money, nor when I spend it, Do I tell others that I am spending it under god's will... perhaps you should give me some of yours for some spiritual guidance :hihi:

Your $ says "In God we Trust" which implies divine intervention in this countries direction. Listen to the Big O -
"No matter how religious they may or may not be," Obama said, "people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don't want faith used to belittle or to divide. They're tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon."

and I agree 110%

Why has the left made God out to be such a bad thing? Then they get their panties in a bunch when an American treats the Coran in a disrespectful way. I'm not very spiritual but I see no harm in being spiritual. To each his or her own. Are you saying Obama is only spiritual for political purposes? Do you believe him when he says he follows God?

God shouldn't even come into the equation...remember you need to Seperate Church from State

The left doesnt believe God is a bad thing at all...The issue is how the religious right has sort of taken hold of the GOP. Add the fact that Bush and now Palin have said publicly that the war in IRAQ is God's wishes and we might as well have the taliban in office..

Religion should be kept out of politics plain and simple..

dude, thats blatant crap, listen to what Palin said!
She said the troops are doing gods work. No comment that the war was gods wish. If American is a Nation Under God, as EVERY ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS PLEDGE IN CONGRES EVERY DAY , and the troops are sent by America, the troops must be doing the good work of god. Christ, its not that hard of a concept. You said you agree with Obama 110%, why not give Palin HER RIGHT to beleive that the troops are doing the right thing and blessed by god?

here is what she said - I have ZERO problem with this and I am an agnostic/atheist/naturalist/buddhist
Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

You don't have a problem with her saying that the Iraq War was a task assigned to us by God?

Thats my problem.
Asking for her to pray for the soldiers safe return, etc. I think is fine. If it is a task from God, I end up hearing it as a blues brothers quote. That talk has no place in politics IMHO.
Belief in God is not a bad thing, it's not my thing, but I have Zero problem with it.

I have huge issues with the evangelical and similar influence on the Repubs. while at the basic level, we are a Judeo-Christian based society, we still need to not be saying we are tasked by god to go to war!

http://attendingtheworld.files.wordp...8/crusades.jpg

ps: they lost.

Osama (thats right yall, not Obama) & Zawahiri feel the same way about what they do... god has ordained them to fight Americans and yada yada yada... its all gods will. And that is considered by most (including muslims) to be radical sunni islam with no place in 21st century islam.

Now by the same standard Jim, Is Sara Palin a radical pentecostal?

you ALL assume she meant the war. Did you consider she may have meant bringing peace to a nation that has been oppressed for decades? Isnt protecting innocent people a task for God?
She CHOOSES to be religious, she BELIEVES her country is right in the war, she believes God favors her country. This was NOT a political speech, it WAS A CHURCH GRADUATION!

I will end with another quote by IMHO the only democrat worth metioning, this is his innauguration address - Can you Imagine if he said this today?

We do not distrust the future of essential democracy. The people of the United States have not failed. In their need they have registered a mandate that they want direct, vigorous action. They have asked for discipline and direction under leadership. They have made me the present instrument of their wishes. In the spirit of the gift I take it.

In this dedication of a Nation we humbly ask the blessing of God. May He protect each and every one of us. May He guide me in the days to come.

Source: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Inaugural Address, March 4, 1933

In this dedication of a Nation we humbly ask the blessing of God. May He protect each and every one of us. May He guide me in the days to come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkiSgU1fvQ


Thy will be done, almight God, Amen - FDR

Hmm.......

No Spin There....:spin:

So when Bush Declared "Mission Accomplished".....Peace was reigning throughout the Land