Palin's speach
 

I think she would be better off working for comedy central.

Her husband is USW? He must cry himself to sleep every night.

No that's Obama and his followers crying themselves to sleep tonight...:hihi: What a Speech!! What a great speech lineup tonight - Romney, Giuliani & Palin - Homeruns tonight!

In all seriousness. She gave a great speech.

Tell me again.
How many times as senator did Obama vote Present !!!

how many times has Palin been to Washington DC?

How many times did she repeat for the Depends crowd that she was from a small town?

WOW! Didnt know what to expect from her....but she blew me away! Great speach

Curious if you know what that even means?

She certainly delivered as expected, it was a job well done, although not exactly in a hostile environment.

Her life story was endearing, but also really reinforced her podunk image that detractors wish to emphasise.

She presented a very skewed version of the truth here as well. She did raise taxes, she was initially for the bridge to nowhere etc...

From what I've read her taking on big oil and corruption is real and this was, to me at least, the most compelling part of her speech.

The policy portion of the speech will turn off a lot of people. It was clearly not in her voice and she was talking about things she knows little about. They were trying to take her around the world like she's up on foreign issues when she's rarely left town.

To me she didn't have the credibility to deliver such sarcastic and mean spirited attacks. It looked instead of a fresh person newly ordained into the Republican negative campaign machine that everyone was sick of under Bush/Rove.

I also noticed she steered clear of the social conservative hot buttons that will turn moderate voters off...

The Dems certainly have to worry if she's going to be a new voice that people will work to pay attention to. But on the other hand, she may have been received so well last night that McCain won't be able to equal her performance. This could throw his campaign out of balance rather than give it a boost.

But the whining about the media isn't going to play outside of that hall. She's certainly invited herself some blistering coverage over the next two months if skeletons jump from the closet or her mouth betrays her.

-spence

She had to spend half the speach telling us who she was. There was no other candidate that was more well know that had the same attributes Mcsame was looking for.

The security was terrible there. I saw an African American actually on the floor. I'm suprised he was able to get by security.

So she's a pitbull mom and a hockey fish that is dumb as a stump and swipes at shiny things?

I like how she "fought for Alaskans to get their piece of the oil profits," as if that weren't state law since before she was governor and something that Chavez (who she took a dig at) already did before she was even a mayor.

I really thought she was fantastic. Upon conclusion, I immediately flipped to Obama's media team at CNN and MSNBC to see reactions. Wolf Blitzer was yelling 'a star is born' and Olberman and Matthews looked like they had their lunch money stolen. Matthews was disheveled and at a loss for words muttering 'great speech.'

You guys are hilarious. Spence, she was mean spiritied? Give me a break.
you know what I truly liked and my wife who watched it agreed, it was nice to hear a ploitical speach that was not a "woe is me, the sky is falling" The lady has a child with down syndrome, a son goign to Iraq and a 17yr old pregnant. Did she feel sorry for herself? Did she ask for help and support. No way, it was a bring it on speech and I got the sense she can handle it.
Best line ever - some leaders use change to further their careers, some use their careers to further change. Im sure she dindt write it, but that us f'in brillant.

I'm from a small town.
I'm from a small town.
I'm from a small town.
Downs baby.
Pregnant daughter.
I'm kinda like a dog everyone is afraid of.
Stab at left
Stab at left
Stab at left

entire speech summarized.

Didn't she say that if someone has a special needs child, she is going to be an advocate for them? Whats been the repub. stand previoulsy? I thought it always was "I got mine, I could care less about anyone less fortunate than myself"

No If i remember correctly it was the republicans who brought forth the equal right and cival rights movement,not the dems.such as Sen. Bird

Thats cuz your lib-washed and dont do any research on your own.

Thank you! I was going to post something similar. The dems have claimed ownership of the civil rights movement.

Exactly Nebe! And isnt that what Obama has been preaching.....same old Washington?

Can't say that about her.

you and likwed are bumbling just like the media, looks like the repub plan worked!

So your saying the repubs have always supported increasing funds for special needs people?

If their plan was to say a whole lot of nothing and then attack the left, then I guess it worked!

They sure did a convincing job bs'ing that big business and small town values are the same thing.

Jim, I guess you are really happy with the GOP at the moment.

It was a good speech, not too over top, as expected. McCain has his attack dog and I don't think Obama or Biden will turn into Mike Vick.

Danica Patrick of the political world.

Nobody's lunch meat. :doh: :D

...what I loved most about the speech was all that talk of laying pipe

Agreed, Spence you might like this:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...in-gender-card

Howard

Ok, I feel better for not being the only one who laughed at this.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/PO...n.thur.cnn.jpg

lol @ cnn

actually I am. I was not planning to vote for McCain, I was going to write my name in or something.

As all the experts were saying last night, she may appeal to the Independents. I guess I am one of them. For some reason I find myself and it appears so does much of the country, comparing Palin to Obama, which makes no sense. She won me over as a get it done, no BS type person. All of the liberal attacks (nebe, likwid) are so one sided,.....care to review Biden's record? Plaguerism, racial comments??? FACTS, I think Palin is the type of future I'd like to see in American. Obama's attitude - emabarrased americans only speak one language, the guns and religion etc, I cant relate to that.

As a chief instigator out here, I am going to resign from the political forums. I've tried to have some serious debate but truthfully, I cant see anyone getting past party BS. I was accussed years ago of being bush-wacked. Man you guys on the left should see how you come across. Talk about brain washed. I'll let you guys get back to our soup kitchens, unemployment lines and foreclosed homes. I heard at the DNC how terrible things in America are.

See ya and good luck! :kewl:

Wait, we're the 'liberal elite' though. We drive like, expensive new cars and stuff (except for nebe, he's some hippy tree hugger).

How how how how how
does she appeal to independents??!??! That is the direction you want us to head? Huge families, strong evangelical influence? Extremly socially conservative?
Leave the forum, but answer that, please.

Absolutely loses me.
Same with the women all over talk radio who 'love her because she is a women' forget party lines, forget race, forget gender. think issues. She gave a great speech, sounded believable, but Spence among all his gibberish, posted an observation I made last night as well. She avoided all these social issues that should turning off a lot of independent/moderate voters. I think she will hold her own in a debate, but I do want to see her grilled on that by Biden.

She is
Anti-abortion completely, no exceptions
Creationist
Mixed environmental record.
I understand she is the VP, and we all talk like McCain is going to drop dead year 1, but still, how is she winning over moderates and independents!

Mixed? MIXED?!
Dude, she might as well come out and say "eff fisherman and eff polar bears."

That's what I hear too. Rape, pillage the environment as an interim step to weaning us off of black gold

Likwid.
I was trying NOT to scare Jim away.
Mixed is generous. I know she pushed against the Polar bears, and the Mine issue you raised,
But I'll stick with it for now, at least until I know more,.

I just want to know how she appeals to independents. It is a pretty powerful statement that she is the direction you want America going!!!

She has no record to stand on. It's a sham

fliiiiiiiiiip

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/liar.jpg

flop?

I agree. All I took out of last night was a sharp veer to the right,
(so much for the disgruntled Clinton vote), little discussion of the issues, juvenile commentary and drill drill drill.


Howard

What do we need polar bears for, anyways?

I wasn't too enthralled with the choice of Palin going into the RNC, but she did a great job with her speech. But, she's a politician. And like McCain, Obama and Biden, she's trying to appeal to a broad base with her speeches.

Most of you guys in here are intelligent enough to know what these candidates stand for and which ways they lean on issues, but most of the general public is competely ignorant on the issues.

Some people will vote for Obama because he's a minority candidate or because he's a good looking, polished speaker.

Others will vote for McCain because he's a war hero who served his country and was a P.O.W.

Palin is going to garner votes for McCain because she is a woman and they won't have a clue as to where she stands on important issues.

It's too bad that more voters don't inform themselves and get to know a little about the candidates that are running.

OK.,
I was wrong, mixed was way to generous

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/...in_environment

OK -
you asked Bryan and I like you. This will get preachy, but its my swan song.
Everyone needs to make a list of things that are important to them. Many of the social issues are very low on my list. I dont feel strongly either way on abortion.
I dont care too much about the religious crap unless as you state, it becomes THE purpose of policy.
I value MOST of all, the american spirit. The drive to succeed, courage in the face of adversity, no BS, no focus on race, but on people.
She is a mother, a VERY hard job, she worked in tough jobs. Unlike Obama and Biden, she worked for a living, she could fail, lose her home, not provide food for her family. Obama's work has been about obtaining grants and public funding and like Biden, a career politician. I dont like the career politician thing. So thats point 1.
Point 2 - I really, really like woman leaders. The best people I have ever worked for were strong woman, she reminds me a lot of them.
Point 3 - International - I can see her (much like Obamans supporters see him) on the Internatinal stage and delivering a SOLID representation of America. She is not George Bush.
Point 4 - Balls, there is no doubt to me she has them.
Point 5 - again, my unfair comparison between her and Obama , If I was hiring someone, I lead a project management team, who would I hire if I interview Palin and Obama? Who to me is someone I can talk to and they would listen? Obama reminds me of the bad bosses I had, where the have the answer before you ask the questions and think they know more than you. I dont get that from her.
Point 6 - I think her inexperience is a good thing (much like Obamas supporters) and I think can lead. She has the poise and delivery of a leader.

For the record, I am far from right wing - I am for gay marriage, for the legalization of weed, for the separation of church and state.

So, as an independant, that why she appeals to me. Leadership presence, ballsy woman, family woman, non-career politician.

Have fun tearing me apart.