Palin/ Biden debate?
 

Is it true that the moderator has a book about Obama due to come out on inaguration day? Sounds like two against one. What do you guys think?

If Palin can answer the Questions in a concise manner with the Intelligence and Quick Wit that she has exhibited in the past she should be fine.

COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN : That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the--it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

:shocked: :huh: :confused:

Wow I guess you're right......she's screwed. Amybe we can get Paris Hilton to moderate

She's not even smart enough or quick enough to fake a response::spin:

During the interview taped Monday that aired Tuesday, Couric asked the Republican vice presidential candidate what she reads.

“When it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?” Couric asked.

“I’ve read most of them,” Palin responded, “again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.”

“What, specifically?” Couric followed.

“Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years,” Palin said.

Couric pressed: “Can you name a few?”

Palin then spun her answer as if Couric was taking a jab at Alaska. “I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too,” she said. “Alaska isn’t a foreign country, where it’s kind of suggested, ‘Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?’ Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.”

:spin: :hang:

Ya, Biden's never screwed up. I think (hope) she'll do fine. I wonder how the left would feel iff the moderator had a book entitiled" The Making Of John McCain" due out. It's just a matter of ethics. The moderator stands to make thousands if Obama wins the election. I can see why we would think she would be be motivated to help Obama. As long as the high and mighty Bush wackers are OK with it then it must be ok.

I think she has been overcoached and a little bit star eyed. I guess that makes her a true outsider. I wouldn't call her stupid. She just has to learn how to BS answers like Rev Obama and then you guys will love her.

The McCain campaign understood she was anything but an arch conservative when they agreed to the terms. Given the debate format I'm not sure she can really fail, and odds are it won't matter anyway.

But that being said, if she did manage to fail in a big way it could really undermine the McCain campaign.

Biden's best bet is to just pretend she's not in the room.

-spence

I'm sure if the Moderator does something inappropriate you will let us know.

Sorry, Palin is sounding more and more like "W"....last thing we need is another nitwit in the whitehouse......we're soon to get rid of the resident Savant....don't really feel the need to replace him.

And before you start calling me a free-wheelin, Tree-Hugging, Pro-choicing, tax and spending, Illegal Alien Supporting, Liberal Whacck job.....i got no problem with McCain, he sounds intelligent when he speaks, that ,in itself is a welcome change to the Circus Clown that currently resides in the Oval Office

One of my biggest issues:
But on a conservative radio talk show program on Tuesday Sarah Palin sounded a bit more like the Sarah Palin the public got to know at the Republican convention.

“Oh, I think they’re [critics] just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It’s time that a normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that’s kind of taken some people off guard, and they’re out of sorts, and they’re ticked off about it,” she said.


I WANT someone who is not your average Joe six-pack. This someone who could be in charge of the country!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...b_n_96760.html

Around 7:30 in the video clip...

No, we'll let CNN keep s posted. NO Bias-NoBS

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True. So really, she can't lose now. If she does poorly, that will be the reason cited.

Not saying Biden has never screwed up nor that he is the end all and be all. He can really go off on a tangent......but like it or not this is for the second most powerful position on the friggin planet :eek5: and a decent knowledge of 8th grade American history, not to mention Foreign relations and geography is not asking too much!

Of concern to McCain's campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin's interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.

The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.

After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.

There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.

How about Brown vs. Board of Education, Dred Scott, Miranda, Abington Schools v. Schemp, etc????

I try not to direct my answers toward any one individual. Sorry if I struck a nerve.

I'm sure she will be fair.

Maybe even ask Biden about when he got shot at in Baghdad. :rolleyes:

Plagiarism and exaggerating being in danger show real insecurity.

It is rumored that Palin and Biden are planning on reenacting janet jackson's 'wardrobe failure' tonight. Stay tuned.

Especially YOU Buckman.. :rude:

She's had ten days or so to prepare, with the best coaching resources available, and the ability to bring notes along.
I think we'll see a major improvement with respect to Ms. Palin.

Biden is going to tear her to pieces. Be prepared for plenty of stand up comedy and one liners from pailin. maybe she will show some cleavage to win over the male vote. :jump1::jump1:

While I don't think Biden was ever a real target (shot at) I think for someone who's not used to war, the very fact that there's fighting close enough by to cause danger would make one feel as thought there were being shot at.

Wasn't he on a plane that had a flare system triggered? Mortar rounds exploding nearby etc...

-spence

No, that was the point he wasn't the target.
From what i understand from the news he was eating dinner at a hotel when a mortar round went off in the area.

Pretty sketchy as according to the news ,only one paper followed up on it,
vs just about every paper existing following up on Hillary's close brush with death from sniper fire.

We wouldn't care and its just the lot of you looking for an excuse to claim there was bias?

I've read that on one of his trips his aircraft deployed it's anti-missle flares...I don't care who you are, that's being shot at. I believe the mortar fire was close by, and they warned if it came closer they would have to seek shelter.

How many troops are killed in action because of random fire? I'd wager very few are specifically targeted, they are just in harms way. The dead are still dead.

Regardless, I don't see this as a stretch...Hillary's comment was certainly a stretch.

-spence

No Nerve Struck...I just tend to be a little sarcastic at times.:jester:

Sure there's a bias....
Anybody from PBS is biased to the left. The conservatives eliminated most of the funding for PBS not too many years ago. Its been one long telethon ever since.
Can't blame them either. PBS is all pro-science shows and pro-liberal causes. I think that Teletubbie with the purse is gay - why is he carrying a pocket book?

Didn't read or hear that.

As i said pretty sketchy reporting, silence is deafening.
But if that is the case, i agree, that would be being shot at.

It's from what I've read, granted I wasn't there...

I'm wondering why nobody isn't accusing that the moderator isn't biased because Palin is a woman?

-spence

I am actually embarassed for you guys when it comes to Palin. Seriosuly, what have YOU guys done with your lives? Ever lead anything larger than a cub scout pack? This is a woman that has 5 kids, and had the guts and determination to run for mayor, then governor. That takes huge balls. TO say she is a dimwit is repulsive. WTF did Hillary Clinton do???? NOTHING. No one has questioned her half as hard as Palin was. No one wanted to be bad guy blasting questions at a lady running for state senator who suffered global embarrasment.
Palin has to have something or she wouldnt be the governor WITH THE BEST APPROVAL rating in the country. SHe did horribly on these interviews, SO you guys want a VP that interviews well? Thats what you need?

Or could it just be, that its not the job of the government to pay for television shows? Just a thought.
You want to watch it (and I do!) you pay for it. Dont make the rest of the country foot the bill

so DF and Nebe, what are your thoughts on this?
Isnt this as bad as Palin? Cant he think on his feet?
Notice he get frustrated with the crowd, just like he is the professor in front of class.

Please watch this a few times and remind me again how GWB is an idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

good answer Barak!!

come on, is Palin really worse than this? He has been doing it for months, her for a few weeks. What an incredibly weak, nonsense response.
No right wing spin, just Obama being Obama.
When Palin prepares to the debate, its a big news story. Tell me Obama dindt have 10 speech coaches prepping him for the debate with McCain.

duh,,,,,what a star! he makes a condescening remark and then responds with nonsense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5f2LG0cVg

Its call breasts and talking points.

And Obama is where he is today for only one reason, he is black

nope. Its his ears. :rotf3:

Im sorry Jim, I am in a overly sarcastic mood tonight.

No worries, Im very grumpy, I almost posted some sarcastic, uncalled for reply to DZs dirt road thread, just to stir up some $hit.

I need a decent striper bad. Been over two months now!

I've led a little league baseball team - that's bigger than a cub scout pack.....

Well I actually do Boy Scouts now....What's your point? Didn't realize what I was doing was so trivial....the Boys don't think so.

I don't really give a rat's ass that she had 5 kids.....my grandmother had 12 I guess she's more than twice as qualified to be VP

And I'm sorry but I want leadership in this country that doesn't embarass us every time the camera is on them....I am sick to death everytime that ass we call a president gets in front of a camera. he is an embarassment to this country.

Go to Youtube and there he is giving the finger and guffawing like Jethro Bodine, he can't put together 2 friggin sentences without sounding like a moron, hell, he couldn't open a door and had to dance like a vaudeville fool.

So yeah, i want her to answer questions and be intelligent in front of the camera because I'm tired of being emabarassed by our leadership

I'll give you that the Nitwit comment may be prematurely unfair....but she needs to do something to prove me wrong then doesn't she.

Because I dismissed her right from the get go....i wholeheartedly agree she did nothing more than sleep with a president.

You get defensive if I comment on leading cub scouts, yet yo put down Palin who RUNS AN ENTIRE STATE. See my point?
Did your granmother lead a large industrial state while she had 12 kids? Did she run multipal campaigns?

See how you dismiss Pailn's accomplishments as if they were nothing? My point is, you dont get to where Palin is without being a leader. You dont get there without commitment and determination. Did her HArvard degree get here there? Here rich parents? Her years on the Senate floow accomplihing nothing? I dont think you can "fake" what she accomplished. As far as being an idiot when teh cameras are on, you, as most have done in the past, have failed to comment on your candidate, looking like a moron when the cameras are on. The youtube clips are above. and PS, Palin is VP. How often do you seen Cheney on TV?

because that seemed to be directed squarely at me.....

Because the fact that she has 5 kids has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HER ABILITY TO BE THE VP........so its a completely moot point....see my point. don't want to hear about

When did I dismiss her accomplishments....the only comment I made was about the 5 kids angle that is getting increasingly old

Who's my Candidate? Enlighten me.

I haven't even come close to figuring out who I'm going to vote for yet.......You know what they say when you Assume

and Cheney is an ass.

My point is, you dont get to where Bush is without being a leader.

see how one word just makes that suspect. that logic doesn't seem to apply

[QUOTE=RIJIMMY;625656]Did your granmother lead a large industrial state while she had 12 kids? Did she run multipal campaigns?

See how you dismiss Pailn's accomplishments as if they were nothing? My point is, you dont get to where Palin is without being a leader. QUOTE]

Since when is Alaska a "large industrial state?" Maybe a large state geographically but the whole state has fewer people than the city of Boston! And what industries besides oil, commercial fishing and tourism???? Multiple campaigns???? For mayor of a TOWN of 5,000 and then governor of a state of 600,000? Fewer campaigns than Tom Menino and on a smaller scale.

Spence,trying to get to the facts of Biden's exaggeration of being shot at in Iraq.

The Washington Times reported Biden said he was in the green zone
and was shot at during one visit and his helicopter was forced down during a
February trip.

He forgot to mention the helicopter was forced down due to a snow storm and the "shot at"statement was from being near a mortar round being close enough to hear it go off.

Imho, i doubt seasoned combat veterans would consider that shot at.

Maybe not as big a lie as Hillary's claim of being shot at by sniper fire,
but his stories and exaggerations seem a little larger then life.

I figure that all of them are bright, driven and accomplished in their own right. I think dismissing Palin as a nitwit because of a few highly edited and biased interveiws is a mistake. Sometimes I wonder if she gets some of the bad rap because she sounds bumpkinish. I think we here in the east have a preconceived notion of what smart sounds like. Southern people sound stupid to us, as do people from the far north, eh. We're so mush smarter then them, just listen to them. I think that some of us think we know what smart is and don't have a clue. Book smart and street stupid is not my idea of a leader. I dare say none of us would last 1 week in Bush's shoes.

So Jim, which is it? Is Obama where he is because he is black or is it because of his rich parents, phoniness and harvard degree.