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GattaFish 10-06-2008 09:35 AM

Market
 
Well there goes support of 10,000.... Whats next...8000? Hang on folks,,, Anyone see any other support in there,,,?

UserRemoved1 10-06-2008 10:01 AM

fack me it's going to be another rough week.

GattaFish 10-06-2008 01:17 PM

Yup,,, and it keeps eroding away too,,,,BOHICA :bshake::bshake:

UserRemoved1 10-06-2008 02:09 PM

alot of fortunes made and lost today.

carnage

striperman36 10-06-2008 03:02 PM

Where's Fishpoopoo? Exit window left?

UserRemoved1 10-06-2008 03:09 PM

probably prepping the noose knots about now :shocked:

gone fishin 10-06-2008 11:11 PM

My retirement just went down the dumper. I may have to find someone that is willing to hire an old fart that can just about get around. I think this adminisrtration has crippled the future generations. Possibly 4 generations just to pay for the fat cats.
The only thing golden in retirement is urine!!!!!

spence 10-06-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gone fishin (Post 626817)
My retirement just went down the dumper.

Why? Were you holding a lot of volatile stocks?

-spence

GattaFish 10-07-2008 08:02 AM

Isn't an Oversold Market the time for Opportunity,,,,,:hang:

striperman36 10-07-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gone fishin (Post 626817)
My retirement just went down the dumper. I may have to find someone that is willing to hire an old fart that can just about get around. I think this adminisrtration has crippled the future generations. Possibly 4 generations just to pay for the fat cats.
The only thing golden in retirement is urine!!!!!


Try and get a job working for the state.

fishpoopoo 10-07-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 626691)
Where's Fishpoopoo? Exit window left?

in a fetal position, barfing my guts out. :fury:

september and october are sometimes very treacherous months for the stock market. it's partly seasonal.

typically, bottoms are reached in october, and in an election year, you can see the market take off from Nov to March. or something like that.

however, given the lousy state of our economy and the fact that we're dragging the whole world down with us :rotf2: , i would be short this b*tch in March.

ordinarly, the stock market discounts the end of a recession a year in advance, or something like that. most recessions are fairly brief - 9-12 months.

but i don't think we're in a "V" shaped recession. we're likely in a longer-lasting "bathtub" shaped recession. i hope i'm wrong. but i fear i am not.

as far as home prices go ... nationwide home prices are down 20% from their peak. i heard one knowledgeable estimate that ... "we're only halfway through this price adjustment." more suck to endure on that front, unfortunately.

JohnR 10-07-2008 09:18 AM

I'd gladly take 20% down from the market peak.

striperman36 10-07-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 626864)
I'd gladly take 20% down from the market peak.

In the stock market too.

GattaFish 10-07-2008 03:00 PM

Another pounding today,,,:humpty::humpty::humpty:

BobT 10-08-2008 10:08 AM

And going down today........big time....again.

GattaFish 10-09-2008 10:05 AM

Hope for support at 9000 ,,,

Fishpart 10-09-2008 11:21 AM

VIX index has been in the 50's for a few days now, so we shoul be close to tha bottom. When it (Finally) turns around back you can expect a significant increase.

GattaFish 10-09-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 627479)
VIX index has been in the 50's for a few days now, so we shoul be close to tha bottom. When it (Finally) turns around back you can expect a significant increase.

Hope Monday,,, With a sell off prior,,,,

Nebe 10-09-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 627479)
VIX index has been in the 50's for a few days now, so we shoul be close to tha bottom. When it (Finally) turns around back you can expect a significant increase.

wishful thinking.

spence 10-09-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 627479)
VIX index has been in the 50's for a few days now, so we shoul be close to tha bottom. When it (Finally) turns around back you can expect a significant increase.

I just dumped a ton of money into my 5 year old son's 529 :hihi:

-spence

striperman36 10-09-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 627479)
VIX index has been in the 50's for a few days now, so we shoul be close to tha bottom. When it (Finally) turns around back you can expect a significant increase.


Right, it's been there before this year.

GattaFish 10-09-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 627492)
I just dumped a ton of money into my 5 year old son's 529 :hihi:

-spence

Smart move,, Time is on your side,,,

striperman36 10-09-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 627494)
Smart move,, Time is on your side,,,

shoulda keep it as a ton of Kreugerands.

Nebe 10-09-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 627494)
Smart move,, Time is on your side,,,

I agree.

UserRemoved1 10-09-2008 03:14 PM

There's 8500 fack me

almost time to start buying again. :happy:

striperman36 10-09-2008 03:17 PM

Blood on the friggin highway. 8,612.48

If Iceland defaults we'll all be road pizza

GattaFish 10-09-2008 03:31 PM

OUCH
 
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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 627522)
There's 8500 fack me

almost time to start buying again. :happy:

For the LOOOOOOOOOOOng term... 5yrs or more,,,

Better to buy for the long term now than it was to buy and hold 1 year ago.....:spin::spin:

Hopefully we are setting up for an incredible monday,,,, somehow I doubt it though

Mr. Sandman 10-09-2008 03:46 PM

its over.......
 
It's over, the markets will not recover in our or our children's lifetime.

striperman36 10-09-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 627528)
For the LOOOOOOOOOOOng term... 5yrs or more,,,

Better to buy for the long term now than it was to buy and hold 1 year ago.....:spin::spin:

Hopefully we are setting up for an incredible monday,,,, somehow I doubt it though

maybe 1000 pts DOWN

GattaFish 10-09-2008 04:58 PM

YUP
 
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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 627535)
maybe 1000 pts DOWN

:agree: I totally agree,,, But since no one can call the bottom and with the swings we get from day to day that may all happen in one or two sessions,,,

Lets face it there is NO guarantee that we will find support at that level,,,(7500) We are really in uncharted territory...

I am sure there are a few guys in here that have a very good idea of what we might see the next few session,,,,

And you sure as hell don't want to get your investment advise from me,,,,:hs::hs:

fishpoopoo 10-09-2008 05:12 PM

it's hard to call a bottom when the current selling is motivated by the need to deleverage and raise liquidity.

banks aren't lending to anyone.

companies can't get other short-term financing like commercial paper, because the largest commercial paper dealer (lehman) blew up. :hihi:

on the flip side, investors in money market funds are liquidating their commercial paper holdings. because they're afraid they're not gonna get their money back. :conf:

so, if you need to raise cash in a jiffy ... where are ya gonna do it?

da stock mahket !

look out below!

:rtfm:

spence 10-09-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 627545)
I am sure there are a few guys in here that have a very good idea of what we might see the next few session,,,,

I don't think anyone really has a good fix on what's going to happen.

I'm a very conservative investor. My 401K has been pounded but I'm also a long way from retirement. Mutual funds are hit, but again it's all long term. My son's 529 has 15 years to recover.

Only worry is my money market, which currently has a lot in it, but it's all with Vanguard and if it ain't safe there I'm stocking up on tuna fish and bottled water :err:

-spence

striperman36 10-09-2008 06:01 PM

we are all a lonnngggg way from living in retirement like our parents do/did, all that encouragement to invest in you r401K has now gone poo poo world wide

UserRemoved1 10-09-2008 06:07 PM

nice scup looks undersized though :hee:

spence 10-09-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 627566)
we are all a lonnngggg way from living in retirement like our parents do/did, all that encouragement to invest in you r401K has now gone poo poo world wide

Who the hell really knows?

There could (and some would argue must) be another innovative revolution like we had in the 90's that drives everything sky high. Then I'd be older and would adjust my allocations...

-spence

GattaFish 10-09-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 627563)
I don't think anyone really has a good fix on what's going to happen.

I'm a very conservative investor. My 401K has been pounded but I'm also a long way from retirement. Mutual funds are hit, but again it's all long term. My son's 529 has 15 years to recover.

Only worry is my money market, which currently has a lot in it, but it's all with Vanguard and if it ain't safe there I'm stocking up on tuna fish and bottled water :err:

-spence

Yup no one knows,,, but there are a few talented guys that are able to make VERY accurate educated guesses.

Same boat,,, Fairly conservative.. YES it is all long term.... Long way to go too. Single so I still take a few risks. :smash:

Same with the money market because of limiting exposure and have seen a decline in my Mutual funds. I have a few Laddered CD's so I can still feed my addiction to fishing and buying plugs if the market closes...:happy::happy:

Honestly I see serious trouble in the market and think any bounce will be temporary but the world is not without risk.

FPP has just about spelled out the market in a nutshell,, either way I think we are all going to be eating schoolies next spring whether we like it or not.

spence 10-09-2008 06:31 PM

Good you're into CD ladders, I think that's a smart move for anyone who can't tolerate more risk.

-spence

striperman36 10-09-2008 06:32 PM

all I know is it aint good and it aint over

iceland is in serious shape, dragging the EU with it

Nebe 10-09-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 627568)
There could (and some would argue must) be another innovative revolution like we had in the 90's that drives everything sky high. Then I'd be older and would adjust my allocations...

-spence

The writing is on the wall as to what that is.... alternative energy.

LT. DAN 2 10-09-2008 07:39 PM

Spence,

Yesterday fidelity and vanguard got permission to have their money market funds fully insured by the FED..just like the banks..you're O.K.
Sleep well!!


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