How many more...
 

of these kinds of stories do Obama supporters and fence-sitters need to read (and blatantly ignore) before they realize what kind of man they are voluntarily putting into the role of leader of our great nation:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...sial-activist/

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...-college-days/

the other similar stories are well known.


Obama-defenders can put all the spin they want on these types of stories but they are simply downright scary. His beyond radical views are slowly but surely seeping out towards the end of this election campaign and people are being lulled to sleep by the feel-good "change" theme...

Why has Michelle Obamma been silenced?

Frankly I use to vote for the pubes most of the time until the classless postings, made up stories and lies about the dems got to be to much for me to take. I got tired of hearing more about how bad they thought the opponent was rather than what they actually planned to do if elected that was the final nail in the coffin for me.

I Know....she really needs to start chatting things up more....like Cindy does :rolleyes:

it doesnt matter, the backlash of bush has blinded everyone. There is too much momentum behind obama now. Look on the bright side..
1. I never want to hear about racism again
2. All racial quotas SHOULD BE ended immediately, you have equal rights now
3. Silence the libs, you have your way, now lets see how you do?

sound bites are over rated.

Racism? Barack is half white.

i dont ever want to hear that African Americans are not given equal opportunity in this country. I do not want to hear that we are a racist country and blacks are second class citizens. If Obama is elected, that is 100% proof that these issues are behind us. Agree?

I dont think this is a racist country; the days of racism as an government legitimized institution are over, but I do think that there are some racist people in this country and racism is far more subterranean now than it was and not just white against black but even light skin blacks on darker skinned blacks.

Apparently not!
1. Change you can Believe in!
2. Another 4 years of Bush!

Look at those dissaffected youths who were plotting to take out Obama (which they probably would not have considering the security detail that surrounds him). Obviously some people cant put the racism issue behind us. It would help those kids however if they had jobs and education. They would spend less time worrying about the threat from blacks.

Only of he gets 100% of the Vote..... (You can help with this one) :hihi:



Oh....and we get rid of these 2 idiots....

Men charged with plotting to kill Obama

(CNN) -- Federal prosecutors charged two men with plotting a "killing spree" against African-Americans that would have been capped with an attempt to kill Sen. Barack Obama while they wore white tuxedos, federal officials said Monday.

Paul Schlesselman, left, and Daniel Cowart said they planned to kill more than 100 African-Americans.

1 of 2 The U.S. attorney's office in Jackson, Tennessee, said Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, were self-described white supremacists who met online through a mutual friend.

Both men have been charged with illegal possession of a sawed-off shotgun, conspiracy to rob a federally licensed gun dealer and making threats against a presidential candidate.

The men planned to kill more than 100 African-Americans, including 14 who would be beheaded, according to the affidavit. But federal law enforcement sources said there was no evidence Cowart, of Bells, Tennessee, and Schlesselman, of West Helena, Arkansas, had any details of Obama's schedule.

"We take this very, very seriously but we see no evidence these guys have the ability or the wherewithal to pull off what they say they wanted to do," one law enforcement source said.

According to an affidavit from the federal agent who questioned them, Cowart and Schlesselman planned to charge at Obama with a car, firing from the windows as they went. They would be dressed in white tuxedos and top hats during the attempt, the affidavit states.

Cowart and Schlesselman were arrested outside Jackson, about 75 miles east of Memphis, Tennessee, after an aborted robbery attempt last week, according to court records.

Though they told investigators they would be willing to die in their mission, the men backed out of their October 21 attempt to rob the gun dealer after spotting two cars and a dog at the home, the affidavit states. The men also shot out the window of a church on their way back to Cowart's grandfather's home, where they were arrested the next day.

Cowart and Schlesselman made their initial appearances before a federal judge Monday and are scheduled for a bond hearing Thursday in Memphis.

Obama, an Illinois Democrat, is the first African-American nominee to lead a major-party ticket and was placed under Secret Service protection in May 2007, far earlier than other candidates.

Eric Zahren, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said it was unclear whether the suspects would have had the capability or means to carry out any sort of plot. But he said the matter was being taken seriously, and a joint investigation was under way.

There was no indication either had attended any Obama event or had drawn Secret Service attention in the past, Zahren said.

Campaign spokeswoman Linda Douglass said, "We never comment on security matters."

Threats against Obama have led to arrests in two previous cases. In one, federal prosecutors concluded that the three people arrested with drugs and weapons in a suburban Denver motel posed a "true threat" to the candidate.

In the second, a Florida man was charged with threatening bodily harm against the candidate in August. He has pleaded not guilty

I guess i'm a little sloooowwww

there will always be idiots, but you cannot base our opinion of society as a whole on that.
Louis Farrakan is still around too.

Palin appointed friends and donors to key posts in Alaska, records show
100-plus jobs went to campaign donors or their relatives, sometimes without apparent regard to qualifications. Several donors got state-subsidized loans for business ventures of dubious public value.

William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.

ANCHORAGE — Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of former state Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was proper, but she abused her power in attempting to have her former brother-in-law Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten fired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mdIPNB8t8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2OUJ8ZUTiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqNbZKIQUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZfROQxXpMI

I don't....Like I said before if we could use idiots for fuel there wouldn't be an energy crisis.

My point being is that even if obama gets elected racism is not dead....It just shows that there has been a shift in tolerance

BTW, JoeP, for such a smart guy, I'm not sure why you hang around with that Rockhound nut.

yeah there aren't any racist in america. if by america you mean canada. I would estimate that about half of the republicans in this counrty are racist.


proof---->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJghQMq49dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHrExRHZnm0

[QUOTE=bssb;633025]yeah there aren't any racist in america. if by america you mean canada. I would estimate that about half of the republicans in this counrty are racist.


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thats brilliant. Just curious why its the republicans that are racist?
You do realize under a republican President we had 2 African American Secrataries of State and a Latino Attorney General?

durrr..........

I never said there were no racists, but an Obama vicory should stop the freaking whining that race is "holding you back". Apparntly its not if an African American can be president. There is nothing holding anyone back, except Jesse and Al who would be out of business.

I can agree with that.......pretty sure that's what Bill Cosby Said :D

I think they kinda have to have a few non-whites around so that your party can lie to itself and say "see! were not racist! oh yeah? watch your racist republican buddies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY04gIruZ4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPGu-7PjIp0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47QGzQxUp0

[QUOTE=bssb;633095]I think they kinda have to have a few non-whites around so that your party can lie to itself and say "see! were not racist! oh yeah? watch your racist republican buddies!
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I am an independent, with converservative/libertarian views..... but know many, many republicans who are far from racist. For every white republican racist, I'll give you 3 black democrat racists. Lets start with Reverend Wright, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton.

Sen. Trent Lott- Republican racist, now give me 3 more black democrat racist. And then give me some more black democrat racist who have actually been elected to Senate in the history of the US.

wow, you can name 3! I just gave examples of like 20. and there isn't enough time in the day to start listing them all. to say there are more racist democrats than there are republicans is so far from reality I now know that arguing with you about this. your head is so far in the sand that you might know where bin ladin is.

:wall:FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL:wall:

Racists are Racists....they don't belong to a certain party :rolleyes:

Wow, all that pot you're smoking must be doing a number on your brain cells. Saying that half the Republicans in this country are racist would be like me saying half the unemployed people in this country are lazy, worthless drains on society. Would you put yourself in that group?

And I always thought the liberal way of thinking was to be tolerant of others.:doh:

you're right, we should tolerate racism in this counrty:wall: Only a true republican bigot would make that argument.

Why Do all the kooks come from the North Shore :hihi:






(before you go all nuts....its a joke)

Could you please explain how you interpreted my statement to mean that we should tolerate racism? But please leave out your little group of video montage's. That stuff is really hackneyed.

You painted with a broad brush by saying half of the Republicans in this country are racist and I did the same to you to make a point. You have no way to quantify what you said. You just post your uninformed rants and then stick your resin covered fingers in your ears and say nah nee nah nee nah nah like a child.

Before calling me bigot, you should get to know me. Then, if you still want to call me a bigot, or anything else for that matter, go ahead. I have thick skin and and a very liberal wife.

well buddy, maybe do a little digging and you'll find a very hard fact. Racism is not illegal. Thats right, there are no laws against it and in the country we are free to beleive what we want.

Its a unique facet in America that the KKK and American Nazis can practice and preach freely. Welcome to the USA.
If you think republicans are racists you're misinformed and quite honestly not very bright.

all the proof I need are those videos. you see how many people are saying Muslum! Terrorist! you show me an obama rally where people are yelling NATZI! SKinhead! Fascist! go on... find proof of your racist democratic rallies. I'll be waiting, but not holding my breath.

Nothing like responding to a question by changing the argument. Who here mentioned anything about racist Democratic rallies? I did yell "fascist" last week, but it was at my mother when she tried to serve me green beans at a family dinner.

And by the way, your spelling stinks.

do a little reading my friend....As Bob Marley siad, know your history, so you will know where you're coming from

On this day in 1869, the Republican-controlled 40th Congress passed the 15th Amendment, extending to African-Americans the right to vote. 98% of Republicans in Congress voted in favor (a few abstained because they thought the measure did not go far enough). 97% of Democrats voted against the 15th Amendment.

At a March 20, 1854 meeting convened by anti-slavery activist Alvan Bovay, fifty-five men and three women called for all opponents of slavery to unite in a new organization, to be called "the Republican Party."

On this day in 1877, Republican President Rutherford Hayes appointed Frederick Douglass the U.S. Marshall for the District of Colombia. His chief duty was enforcing federal court orders within the nation's capital. Another of his duties was introducing the President at official functions. Democrats expressed their outrage at an African-American being in such a high-visibility government post.

Robert DeLarge, an African-American congressman and Republican, who was born on this day in 1842. He helped write the South Carolina state constitution of 1868 and then won election to the state legislature.

Henry Blair, the Republican who led the GOP's final attempt to defend African-Americans from their Democrat oppressors in the post-Civil War South. After rising to the rank of Lt. Colonel of the 15th New Hampshire Volunteers, Blair entered politics, winning a seat in the state legislature in 1866. He then won the first of two terms in the U.S. House of Representatives before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 1874.

On this day in 1956, nineteen Democrat U.S. Senators and seventy-five Democrat U.S. Representatives signed the Southern Manifesto, criticizing the Supreme Court's Brown v. Board of Education decision that struck down racial segregation in public schools.

On this day in 1965, police under the command of Democrat Governor George Wallace attacked African-Americans demonstrating for voting rights in Selma, Alabama. Democrats used bull whips, attack dogs, billy clubs, and tear gas in their "Bloody Sunday" assault

On this day in 1954, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower appointed Ernest Wilkins, an African-American lawyer, as his Asst. Secretary of Labor. Among the responsibilities of his high-profile position was representing the U.S. at international labor conferences

On this day in 1976, Republican President Gerald Ford signed a proclamation formally rescinding Democrat President Franklin Roosevelt's notorious Executive Order 9066, which authorized the internment of 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

Senator Lyman Trumbull (R-IL), the person who wrote the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery. On this day in 1865, the 13th Amendment was passed in the U.S. House of Representatives with unanimous Republican support and against intense Democrat opposition. The measure had already passed in the Republican-dominated U.S. Senate.

On May 2, 1963, police in Birmingham, Alabama -- under the command of the Democrat sheriff, Eugene "Bull" Connor -- attacked several thousand African-American schoolchildren who were demonstrating peacefully for their civil rights. Connor's men used high-pressure hoses, clubs and police dogs in their assault, and then jailed nearly a thousand children.

...we are free to believe what we want, but the KKK and American Nazis engage in terrorist activity and incite violence. That is where the line is crossed, and although I do believe a racist is a racist irrespective of political affiliation, forgive the generalization, but liberals dont keep well in the company of Nazi's and the KKK. Just ask Sean Hannity and Pat Buchanan.

Fishing crosses all political borders...:hihi: We both know where we stand & don't take these debates too seriously - it's all in fun. Anyways, he'll come around to the light someday...:hihi:


On another note Jim - don't bother trying to argue logic and reason with the illogical and ignorant ... like on this thread. Facts speak for themselves and if some choose to ignore facts and completely make up other facts in ranting & raving fashion I just laugh and move on.

too bad all your examples are 30-100 years old. and you're right, 30-100 years ago the democratic party was much more racist than the republicans. but things change. the republican party has been taken over by the ultra-conservitive, evangelical far right wing of the party. The Sarah Palins of the world. wanting prayer in schools, creationism and abstinence only. global warming is a hoax, and everyone should own an uzi. If this group had their way we would be living in a theocracy, governed by the rules of the bible. I bet RIJIMMY would vote for Bush again if he could.

I keep saying the same thing about him Jim, especially regarding climate change!!!

You should see the email debates we have! Lots of :bs:from both sides, sans the BSSB BS :nailem::scream:

BSSB,
I'm a very liberal guy, but you are making the rest of us 'moonbats' look bad!
Give it a rest dude! You are obviously new to these discussions. Jim is actually a sane, level-headed guy, and posting the same Bill Maher videos won't get you instant credit here. at the end of the day, no one takes it personal, I'd still fish with RIJ if he ever gets back in the water and off his fiberglass jetty!

the end is near.

you can all say what you want, fact of the matter is in less than one week we will have a democraticly controled white house and congress and the republican party will be irrelevant. that being said, I like ranting to all you republicans. this counrty was founded on our ability to non-violently argue our opposing views. I believe everyone has a right to their opinion( no matter how flawed I believe that opinion to be). I encourage everyone to go out and vote for the canidate of thier choice. and yes I do dislike most republicans.