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Wonderbread paint finish?
Anyone have a picture of this color on a plug, or know where I can view one? thanks, Jim
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yep in the plug section
do a search on the site.......
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Wonderbread
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"Clown" Wonderbread and what is known as "Cotton Candy" wonderbread.
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LARRY, you have to STOP posting pic's of PLUGS :whackin: NOW I WANT ONE do you have a wounderbred JOINTED laying around if so PM me PLEASE:chatter
gregorjim, look under re-paint I got one there:smash: GOOD LUCK GOOD PLUGGIN |
Thanks to all the replys..I'm ordering pearl paint now..Jim
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for wonderbread plugs I like the Krylon
"make it pearl" spray. I think it has a deeper look to it than pearl paints. |
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SMITTY HOW MUCH?
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why is it that you are always trying to start stuff.......:claps:
you know what sooner or later every one is going to get fed up with you and you will be wondering what you did wrong. OK I'm done with this site later ..........:claps::claps::claps::claps: |
not starting anything smitty :wave: Every picture you've posted here lately is a plug on your site for sale and I'm busting your balls. Too many guys online lately publicly saying they're not selling then they post somewhere that they don't think it will get back to anyone they have stuff for sale. I sleep at night if it bothers others sorry. :wave:
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sorry you didn't get that many real replies to your question :( I guess with so many members intimidated to get turned in by the plug police, not many post pics of plugs anymore.:doh: If I had some pics, I'd post then for you, sorry good luck |
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WTF! not starting anything? :rollem: ya right how do you have time for your hobby of busting balls? I thought you were a busy plug builder Scott. You are driving members away from here. Is that what you are trying to do? mold the forum to your liking? gimme a break please. the holier than thou schtik has gotten way old. Keep it up and this type of thing will really drive people away, it pains me to see this once great forum be a shell of what it once was or could be. reply if you choose, here where you started it please, I don't want email thanks for cooporating and getting along |
like I said, post reply here not by email or pm
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote: Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& can i have another infraction now? Careful or the plug police will pull you over Bruce this has been gone around so many times it's pathetic and the guy is still doing it. I ain't the bad guy I'm only breakin his balls. Whether it's him, $%@#&*, @#$%^& or %$#@!*&(, any of these asschumps they're ALL selling their stuff in shops. Most doing it in unmarked bags now too...how freakin childish is that. The fact is EVERY single picture he's posted on that site has made it up for sale on his own website within a few weeks. He's trolling for sales at the Asbury show or online thru pm's or his own site. I very seriously doubt saying something to someone pulling this stuff keeps someone from legitimately putting up pics of their stuff. If it does then there's something wrong. [end quote] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yep something is wrong members have told me they are not comfortable posting pics of their plugs. what is it to you if some people do sell plugs anyway? you don't have to make it your own personal crusade to call people out on the forum. just reply on the thread please and sort it out where you started it, thanks, Bruce no need for speculation, try giving people the benefit of a doubt |
Play nice boys...:conf:
Seriously though I did not see that Smitty was directly trying to sell plugs in the post so whats the problem? I dont know what the intent was and I dont get into the "politics" between plugs builders (thank goodness) so other than a pic of some plugs pertaining to the original question I dont see a problem here.That is after all what this forum is for, no? To make plugs, share info and learn from each other? |
hey Bruce you want it public here it is! I sent you a pm because I didn't feel this belonged online. Since your a moderator and said post it here then hey why not I got NOTHING to hide.
Why should I or Bigfish or Afterhours pay to be a sponsor of this site when guys like Smitty, Sporty, Fishdoc, Charleston, Baystalker, and many many more continually post pictures on here when they're doing nothing but trolling for sales? Let's take smitty for instance. Every single post he's had with pictures here recently HAS been posted somewhere else including his own website with pictures of the same plugs in packages and for sale. So it's fair to everyone on here for this to keep happening time and time again? We been through this before and it's a sticky at the top of the forum. Not only is it against the site's policy of giving these guys free advertising in some cases these guys are in shops in plain package wrappers, or selling on other private forums here BLATANTLY and also doing it via private messages. I've seen enough of this bs to last a lifetime. And when I do I'm going to say something. Why anyone would have a problem posting pictures of something if they're not selling or have nothing to hide is beyond me, nor can I understand why you feel it drives people away. I don't even post pictures here anymore because I've heard enough crap about being spam spam spam etc myself. NO holier than though attitude. MY attitude is if your gonna sell then PAY to be a sponsor, PAY your frickin taxes-state, federal, and excise! Why should any of these guys get to make more money than any advertiser here! Bruce you or anyone else can flame all you want I couldn't care less. Not one of these guys affects what I do every day but I'm tired of paying through the frickin nose every day when these guerilla marketers play cheat the system behind the scenes. IT'S NOT FAIR to ANYONE who supports this site. The difference is I got the balls to say it publicly. RANT OFF |
My last reply apparently got edited ;) so here goes again.
Scott, if you, Bigfish or Afterhours, or any other sponsors have legitimate feeling that someone is spamming the forum, let me know. Please don't take it upon yourself to be the moderator / plug police or whatever. The purpose of this forum is to share plug building info, not to decide who can post what or who is doing what. This plug board is a litle stagnant, partially due to crap like this, and it is time for that to change. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, contact me. From here on out, no more "Ball Busting" suspected "Spammers" that are participating in the forums. For those that are selling commercially elsewhere, please, I encourage you to participate and enjoy the forums. I also think it is more than reasonable to NOT conduct selling here. Thanks! John |
Just for the record i am a commercial builder and do pay all my tax's.
I have never and will never pm any person to sell my plugs. "dont need to" I posted 3 plug pictures of plugs including the wonder breads in the last 2 months so i dont know how you say im spamming yes 2 of them are now something on my site but that was it. This is and will be the 2nd site i dont visit any more due to the problems you start with other builders just not worth it..... I really hope you dont drive this one to the ground as you did with the others. See you all on the flip side...... |
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Smitty - stick around, we're trying to improve things here.
Personally, I have not seen or heard any complaints that you are selling under the table here so understand that my post was indicating that. What I was saying is a little more of a blanket statement on commercial selling.Anyway, reconsider, hang out, and lets get this stuff fun again. |
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Maybe we should have a pissing match forum and just let them fight it out over there.
Personally, I don't even know the guy, so I don't know about all this illegal selling stuff. I do know I wish I could see other peoples efforts and the DIY on how to do what they do. I miss that here it never seems to get there. |
So gregorjim...all clear now? :rotf2:
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3 styles of Wonder Bread that I've seen/done .
1. I'll just call multi colored dots 2. same as above only you go over it with a pearl white to tone it down a bit . 3. you don't do little dots, but multi color the whole plug (blotch if you will) the white pearl over that . Larry's jointed above looks like a good example of that style .. |
He is the reason I stopped posting here. He should worry more about him self. To let him attack people all the time will keep turning guys away.
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If you ask me all of the under the table spammers on here and other sites do more to discourage posting than anything.. I say that because I know several people who wont post their new ideas because they know that most guys who sell wouldnt think twice about ripping off an idea that was thought up by someone who will probably not try to capitalize on it. |
Ha! Just wait until Eddy, Paul, and I retire and form the Leaky Prostate Lure Manufacturing Co. As long as our bowels are not too much of a problem and one of us can still remember where our shop is located, we'll put all these whipper snappers out of business.....unless of course we squander all our capital by hiring a secretary with really huge breasts.
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I must say this forum is dead as a doornail. Really stinks how far it has gone down. A real shame. Have no idea what will bring it back to its heyday. Wish I did. Any ideas people? The other major bass site's plugmaking forum is flourishing. Seems pretty similar to ours. |
i ain't gonna pick a fight wit nobody...(please hold the spam tho :hee:).... how's about posting some pics of the stuff ya all been buildin' for your wintah fun, just for starters...:D
i showed my fall stuff the past month or so... what u guys been doing???? |
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I like wonder bread when it's done very lightly like on the old pearl bombers.
Here's one I did last year that I haven't fished yet. |
This site has the same problem SS.com has/had. On the one hand you have pros who pay money to sponsor and keep the lights on.
Then you have the smaller guys who will blitz 5-6 sites with their newer creations pics and never hear much from them again. Do you blame a guy who pays for a sponsorship to be mad? If you place limit these smaller guys and they all get in a tiff and dont post(not that they posted a lot anyway). Some have good intentions and others are spaming. Sometimes its hard to tell this but I know I like all the pictures. The site owners/mods get put in a bad position because the want to keep the lights on and still have content. Paul that other site does not have paid sponsors and you don't have these problems cause people can post anything they want. There is no easy answer to this. SS com made a ruling that only people who don't sell plugs anywhere and it brought the forum to trickle. Seems more people sell they lead you to believe. I have no problems with big or small builders just saying that because money (sponsorship) is in this equation it gets ugly fast. |
Build to fish, the rest will take care of itself.
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The subject is not going away and will continue to come around, I guess it's just the nature of these forums,the opportunity it provides, and it's free flowing way of info and ability to post pictures of ones work. I can write all night about this but I won't bore you all.
Some good points have been made here. I hope everyone can come to a conclusion here and realize what goes on, if not, I'll spell it out the best I can. I'm not here to pick any fights either. I seem to be the only one with balls enough to say something because I've have had enough and seen enough of the calling out of certain members who salty suspected of some wrong doing as far as the rules of the forum pertaining to commercial selling/spamming. This isn't SOL, their policies and what they allow over there don't apply here. It's pretty clear that without pretty convincing proof that someone went from hobby builder to commercial and wasn't paying the fed. fishing excise tax, that those accusations are pretty much unjustified unless you work for the IRS or the person admits to some kind of spamming or something. Another words, just because someone has a website where they post their own pictures of plugs and also have some plugs posted on the forum or just happens to have plugs for sale someplace, doesn't mean they didn't go thru all the proper channels like paying the excise tax due. ( I also have a sub-website on my own website where I have plugs posted and those same pictures were on here at one time also, that doesn't make me a spammer or a cheat I hope. I have not added to it in years but just thought that might be relevant. I don't sell plugs. And even if they are not a sponsor, John can only allow just so many sponsors anyway, maybe they asked. There is other possible explanations to things other than jumping to conclusions about spam. Let John decide. Like John says, if anyone(like a sponsor or other) suspects a member of spamming, to contact him rather than commenting with a How much? sarcastic remark type thing. Striperknight , hopefully there is some happy medium, I don't know where that is but we certainly don't want to get someone mad. Here lies another problem, the lucky few who are paying sponsors have the right to speak up about any others who don't follow the spamming rules, and like I said, that should be done directly with John, not on the forum where it gets ugly. Quote:
Nope, spam is not fair to any of us here just as the accusations of spam or other stuff without real proof being written on the forum instead of pointed out to John like what was spoken about years ago. It does drive people away and some don't want to be falsely accused so they don't post, don't need the hassle. And just as Nebe says, people don't want their ideas stolen and used so they don't post either. I don't blame them. The forum is about building plugs to fish with like Numbskull said, I hope we can get back to that. Karl, I'd post some plugs if I made any, but I have not. Hopefully soon. I'm not a babysitter, hopefully we can all be adults here. Thanks |
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its like friggin romper room, im so glad i am out of this business. its childish crap like this that makes it not worth it. its friggin fishing lures, and the little children in the business do nothing but piss and moan, and point fingers. you can have all this crap, good luck. and as far as the forum being dead, THIS IS THE REASON! its all gotten out of hand, people dont even fish plugs anymore, they collect them, and sell them for some stupid price because they are pretty, they dont give a damn if they work, because they never fish them. people make lures to catch fish, that what this forum should be about, and until people realize that, it will just continue to suck.
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I don't even build the damn things I think this is all a bunch of grown up BS!This is the second time I came back to the forums and as you can see 7 posts I'm done Adios to all the normal people.It's always about money unless it is just a competition you all do nice work too bad you all just can't get along.Later.
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great example Diggin jiggin
of the "toned down paint scheme" there... :wave:
i remember talkin with kevin Vandam... years ago about his theory of spinner bait speed and how he burns em by fish really fast at times so they barely see the bait... and i asked him about why plugs with worn off paint sometimes become favorites... because of how well they catch...like the plugs that are now bone color ....or the under-finish color... or more subtle paint schemes...:humpty: ect. |
You have paying sponsors here....when any comm. builder post their wares in any form it is spam and any sponsor has the right to sound off.....owner/mod's need to do their homework and keep up with whos doing what outside of their site.
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From a paying sponsor........
I think this forum has suffered greatly the past few years, and I also think that maybe we need to lighten up and put the fun back in this forum?! It is, after all, about building plugs! So why not just let folks post their work as long as it is in the spirit of this forum and in the spirit of goodwill and sharing! I learned how to build plugs from this forum and am happier for it! I had never even dreamed of building my own plugs before I stumbled in here! I had long admired the amazing, beautiful and incredible work that was done by so many of the folks who posted here and that was what inspired me to learn to build my own....and I have so many folks here to thank for their help and I have never forgotten them! My selfish pleasure is looking at pictures of all the other builders work.....the creative talents of everyone never ceases to amaze me and also inspire me! I am a builder sure but first and foremost I am a lover of all plugs handmade! If the fun gets squashed by all the BS then that is a shame. I have made many friends here, and would not trade one of them for a buck! With a New Year on the horizon.....lets commit to changing things in here for the better??;)
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I told John R once that I never get into arguments on the Internet, well almost never.
Some plug builders are forgetting, or perhaps not realizing, that the fascination with wooden plugs today was not driven by a bunch of guys standing around talking. The Internet drove it, I believe mostly thru the plugbuilding forums. If you drive all the small time custom builders out of the forums a lot of interest will be lost. I don't believe that there are many NEW inventions in the plugbuilding world. Just look at the line below my sig, that book was written right around the time I was born. This was by far the best plugbuilding forum on the web. I hope it will be so again. Now I need to think about cleaning my shop so I can build some plugs this winter. |
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While I agree that commercial plugbuilders shouldn't be allowed to "spam" the forums, I don't think the moderators or John R should be looking into what people are doing outside of this site. |
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