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BigFish 04-08-2009 09:31 PM

So Where Is The Stimulous Money???
 
I thought government had approved almost a trillion dollars for stimulous monies to be distributed around to the countries towns, cities and states to save and/or create jobs???? So why I ask is the city of Boston poised to lay off 500 city jobs consisting of police and teachers???? Where is this supposed money I wonder???:doh:

What a joke this government is!!!:smash:

Raider Ronnie 04-08-2009 09:57 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/...kennedy_legacy

BigFish 04-08-2009 10:23 PM

Yeah I saw that.....the rich get richer!! How is this going to benefit the taxpayers again???:doh:

JohnnyD 04-08-2009 11:50 PM

I can only speak for Mansfield.

The town will receive $2.1 million for the 2009-2010 school year. Of that money, only half can be used to pay teachers (read: save jobs), the other half must be spent on professional development and other education programs for the students. Approximately 20 teaching jobs in Mansfield will be saved due to the stimulus, but there is still discussion that up to 68 teachers will be losing their job.

They have been told, any non-tenured teacher (at the school 3 years or less) will be getting a pink slip. First round of slips go out later this month.

Next year, the town will be receiving more money. The total amount is yet to be determined.

Raven 04-09-2009 05:59 AM

also
 
i read that a percentage of your taxes paid in will be reduced
thus providing more take home....$money. i have my doubts tho.

RIROCKHOUND 04-09-2009 06:12 AM

I got my check, didn't you??

Then again I voted for him :D

spence 04-09-2009 06:13 AM

Larry, it's a myth. Buck has taught us that police and teachers don't really get terminated, it's all liberal scare tactics.

As for the Stimulus, only 180B or so is slated to be spent this fiscal year across the entire country. I know that a lot of State infrastructure projects are already being funded. It's probably a lot of more difficult to get money into town budgets that rapidly.

-spence

BigFish 04-09-2009 06:35 AM

Well at least a high priority cause like "The Kennedy Library" is first on the list......and the "Ted Kennedy Institute" is second I guess?? Can you say.....campaign payback?!!:fury:

sokinwet 04-09-2009 06:35 AM

Although some folks seem to think bags of money have already been passed out the reality is that most funds are just becoming available. For example: you may have seem the newspaper stories on local communities receiving DOE funding. This $$ is just coming on line and communities must still submit an application that meets the program mandates to "create jobs" and reduce energy consumption. Community Development funds for infrastructure are not yet available as final regulations are being finalized. All fed. programs still have to go through public notice and environmental review processes, jobs have to be bid out, agencies have to gear up and put reporting systems online , etc.(reporting requirements are very strict on these $$'s....something "new" called accountability) If anyone is "really" interested in how stimulus funds are being distributed the info. is all there online....or you can just go on with mindless blog bitching.

JohnnyD 04-09-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sokinwet (Post 680419)
If anyone is "really" interested in how stimulus funds are being distributed the info. is all there online....or you can just go on with mindless blog bitching.

Thank you for being sensible. Some people have the mentality "I don't see it, so it mustn't be happening." They don't realized the world is bigger than the small bubble they choose to put themselves into.

RIJIMMY 04-09-2009 11:01 AM

thats cool, sounds like not much has been distributed.
Housing prices stabilizing, stock market gaining ground, fewer jobs lost last month than estimated, banks showing profit. Every store/restaurant I see is packed.
Can we just say it was a good idea and call it quits, put the 780 BBBBBbillion in the bank for a rainy day?

buckman 04-09-2009 02:53 PM

They rushed it through because the world was going to end. No time to read it, just spend it as quick as they can. etc. I don't know, why would anyone expect to see money from it?

The stimulas bill had nothing to do with the economy to begin with, other then using the decline of America as a scare tactic to pass a socialist agenda.

And, I am willing to bet, Spence and JD, Mansfield schools, the kids and the public saftey in town, will be just fine come next fall. Despite what the doomsayers are telling you. I can think of other BS we can and will cut in town before the schools go under.

JohnnyD 04-09-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 680537)
And, I am willing to bet, Spence and JD, Mansfield schools, the kids and the public saftey in town, will be just fine come next fall. Despite what the doomsayers are telling you. I can think of other BS we can and will cut in town before the schools go under.

First round of pink slips are due to go out in 2 weeks.

We'll know at the end of the month who's right.

buckman 04-09-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 680543)
First round of pink slips are due to go out in 2 weeks.

We'll know at the end of the month who's right.

I feel for you. I have been there myself, as are almost 10% of the country.

JohnnyD 04-09-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 680552)
I feel for you. I have been there myself, as are almost 10% of the country.

I believe the Unadjusted Unemployment Rate is somewhere near 15%. The Unemployment rate as advertised by the government and news outlets is misleading. It does not take into consideration the people who are unemployed and have given up looking for a job or are now on welfare.

Nebe 04-09-2009 04:10 PM

Or self employed people who have no work. Basically, they are only counting those who are collecting.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 680559)
I believe the Unadjusted Unemployment Rate is somewhere near 15%. The Unemployment rate as advertised by the government and news outlets is misleading. It does not take into consideration the people who are unemployed and have given up looking for a job or are now on welfare.

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

spence 04-09-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 680486)
thats cool, sounds like not much has been distributed.
Housing prices stabilizing, stock market gaining ground, fewer jobs lost last month than estimated, banks showing profit. Every store/restaurant I see is packed.
Can we just say it was a good idea and call it quits, put the 780 BBBBBbillion in the bank for a rainy day?

Yep, recession over :hs:

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

Nebe 04-09-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 680583)
Yep, recession over :hs:

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

exactly.... my business got hit hard back when oil prices spiked.. my overhead went way up and my sales went way down.. I dont foresee things getting better for me for at least a year or maybe even 2.. In the mean time, I am living very simply..

justplugit 04-09-2009 09:45 PM

My youngest daughter manages a bank.
As of yesterday she was $ 7 million over budget because her small business customers are saving rather than reinvesting in their business.
No new jobs there.

striperman36 04-10-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 680583)
Yep, recession over :hs:

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

Yup alot of people expecting to have plenty of fishing time for the funny fish and the fall run this year.

I see mixed discussions, many this is a sucker's run and others trying to bully pulpit this as the fix is in, the fox is out of the hen house.

On the fence, Q1 earnings season hasn't started in earnest yet.

Mr. Sandman 04-10-2009 09:53 AM

Like I said to my wife the other night...

"I got your stimulus package right here baby"

Nebe 04-10-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman (Post 680682)
Like I said to my wife the other night...

"I got your stimulus package right here baby"

Fillabuster!!
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Joe 04-10-2009 12:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu9xx5Ri278
Whenever I find myself enraged at the government, depressed over the economy, and fearful of the future....
I put on "Eye Of The Tiger" and it never fails to renew my spirits.

Raven 04-10-2009 12:27 PM

i heard they were spending it
on the george w bush library
and
they'll even have some
commm pute tors in there
where you can go on "the GOOGLE" :bl:

buckman 04-10-2009 03:25 PM

He has some interesting ways to pay it off.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6-dl...eature=related

Cool Beans 04-10-2009 03:53 PM

I am pretty sure a large chunk of this cash is being spent on an army of teleprompters..... I wonder if that bugs Obama voters, that somewhere in a van or something, somebody is programming the teleprompter to tell Mr. Obama what he thinks. Maybe all of us should be mad, we either voted for Obama or against him, but none of us voted for "the man behind the curtain".........

RIROCKHOUND 04-10-2009 03:56 PM

jeezuz...
CB, rational arguments are one thing, debating the stimulus is another; complaining about this presidents speaking abilities after the last 8 years (I wont name names) is just silly. Not one president ever relied upon teleprompters...

spence 04-10-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Beans (Post 680784)
I am pretty sure a large chunk of this cash is being spent on an army of teleprompters..... I wonder if that bugs Obama voters, that somewhere in a van or something, somebody is programming the teleprompter to tell Mr. Obama what he thinks. Maybe all of us should be mad, we either voted for Obama or against him, but none of us voted for "the man behind the curtain".........

What's funny is that after watching Obama speak without a teleprompter perhaps dozens of times, I can't help but remark that aside from a few umms how bright and articulate he sounds. Remember how awful the Bush press conferences were when he was standing next to Tony Blair? You just don't have that with Obama.

I'm going to have to say this "teleprompter" talking point is just a load of crapola that some of you guys can shovel into your gullets fast enough.

-spence

Cpt. Crunch 04-12-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Beans (Post 680784)
I am pretty sure a large chunk of this cash is being spent on an army of teleprompters..... I wonder if that bugs Obama voters, that somewhere in a van or something, somebody is programming the teleprompter to tell Mr. Obama what he thinks. Maybe all of us should be mad, we either voted for Obama or against him, but none of us voted for "the man behind the curtain".........

yup, and I got your tinfoil hat right here. I think Cool Beans is really Rush Limbaugh in disguise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvNJWM_NDg

Raven 04-12-2009 09:49 AM

the pirates took all the stimulus money

so they can buy large HD tv's for the beach bars :rotflmao:

Cool Beans 04-12-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt. Crunch (Post 681081)
yup, and I got your tinfoil hat right here. I think Cool Beans is really Rush Limbaugh in disguise.

Thanks! I consider that a Great Compliment!

And I have custom made tinfoil hats that I keep "at the ready", never know when them rascally liberals will try to take over our minds. Luckily for us conservatives, liberal attacks are almost always preceded by a high pitched sniveling whine, which allows us time to don our "hats".

:btu::eyes: :btu:

Cpt. Crunch 04-12-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Beans (Post 681139)
Thanks! I consider that a Great Compliment!

And I have custom made tinfoil hats that I keep "at the ready", never know when them rascally liberals will try to take over our minds. Luckily for us conservatives, liberal attacks are almost always preceded by a high pitched sniveling whine, which allows us time to don our "hats".

:btu::eyes: :btu:

wow:yak4:

Cpt. Crunch 04-12-2009 07:37 PM

seems to me most of the whining on this site is done by distraught republicans who don't know what to do with themselves now that they are out of power. Every election cycle the republican party grows smaller and more conservative. They think the best way to get things done is to not do anything at all. I'm glad a majority of the American electorate has figured it out. Now we just have to wait for the short bus to catch up.

buckman 04-13-2009 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt. Crunch (Post 681194)
seems to me most of the whining on this site is done by distraught republicans who don't know what to do with themselves now that they are out of power. Every election cycle the republican party grows smaller and more conservative. They think the best way to get things done is to not do anything at all. I'm glad a majority of the American electorate has figured it out. Now we just have to wait for the short bus to catch up.

I like of think of us as distraught Americans and concerned citizens:uhuh:

Nebe 04-13-2009 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 681230)
I like of think of us as distraught Americans and concerned citizens:uhuh:

And bad typers :hihi:
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Cpt. Crunch 04-13-2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 681230)
I like of think of us as distraught Americans and concerned citizens:uhuh:

right, when a republican complains he's a concerned citizen. when a democrat complains he's whining. that's about right.:wall:

JohnnyD 04-13-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt. Crunch (Post 681288)
right, when a republican complains he's a concerned citizen. when a democrat complains he's whining. that's about right.:wall:

That's the Spin that Republicans have become so efficient in using.

RIJIMMY 04-14-2009 09:22 AM

sorry O-bots, you're leader doesnt agree with you, looks like the stimulus is already starting to work!

The speech, which will air live on CNN and CNN.com at 11:30 ET, comes a day after the president declared that his stimulus plan is "starting to work" and that transportation projects are coming in ahead of schedule and under budget.

RIJIMMY 04-14-2009 09:26 AM

damn! this guy IS good! I mean we ALL know that the cost of the project at the beginning is always what the cost ends up being in the end!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama declared Monday that his stimulus plan is "starting to work" and that 2,000 transportation projects -- costing much less than expected -- are under way.


President Obama on Monday says the transportation projects will help create or save jobs.

"Competition for these projects is so fierce, and contractors are doing such a good job cutting costs, the projects are consistently coming in under budget," Obama said Monday.

The president gave a rapid-fire list of savings: a bid for road work in Connecticut is $8.4 million less than the state budgeted; Louisiana has a project coming in $4.7 million less than expected; projects in Colorado are averaging about 30 percent under the state forecast; and some bids in California are nearly half of what the state projected.

The administration said those savings will stretch the agency's $48 billion stimulus budget.

"Our recovery dollars can go further, and we can do more projects," said Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said. "This is great news."

LaHood hosted the president and vice president at his department's headquarters in Washington for the announcement. Officials did not give an overall estimate of money saved from competitive bids.

The three leaders also claimed a victory in the amount of transportation work approved so far, saying the agency has approved its 2,000th infrastructure project as part of the stimulus.

"Some may have thought it would have taken months to get to this point," Obama said, "but we have approved these projects in just 41 days."

Bronko 04-14-2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 681547)
sorry O-bots, you're leader doesnt agree with you, looks like the stimulus is already starting to work!

The speech, which will air live on CNN and CNN.com at 11:30 ET, comes a day after the president declared that his stimulus plan is "starting to work" and that transportation projects are coming in ahead of schedule and under budget.

I am actually extremely interested and will be tuning in to see what the teleprompter tells him to say.


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