That was pretty lame
 

On the way home from work I listened to the news about Ft. Hood, they cut to our commander in chief and I listened as he thanked the audience of some conferecnce, he actually sounded happy...then he addressed Ft. Hood.

Obama has lived up to every single concern we had before he was elected. Hes a pompous out of touch ass.

Thought the same thing as the newscasters built up the Obama statement on Ft. Hood, switched to Obama live who opened and continued on for several minutes about the conference before getting to the after thought: oh yes, and some soldiers were shot today in TX.........



Pretty LAME!

"Hey, this is a SHOUT OUT to all my Homies in the Teepees"...."HOW"....."what?...soldiers dead in Fort Hood?.....yeah...I'll get to that in a minute...first....a little about ME"....:yak5:

He's supposed to address this again today in a press conference. Let's see how he does when he has plenty of time to prepare and has people write down what he's supposed to say.

I'm not going to pile on in this thread but I was a little confused for a moment when I couldn't tell when he was done talking about Ft Hood and going into finishing the conference he was at. Just wasn't what I expected.

About 2 mins on Ft. Hood and how he met with FBI Director Mueller this morning.

Unemployment rose to 10.2% when they were expecting 9.9%

He is expanding unemployment benefits to 20 weeks for approx 1 million
of the 15.7 million unemployed.

He says this will help the economy as it will create jobs as this money is spent
on food and shelter.

The stimulus will help as it is spent on roads and bridges.

I guess he means the 9 month old shovel ready jobs.

To paraphrase the first lady's pre-election sentiments:
"This is the first time in my adult life that I have ever been embarrassed to have this clown as president."

He is doing everything he can do to trivialize the office of president and to ruin this country.
His constant displays of disrespect for the military is outrageous.
Also, has anyone compared the number of gaffs he's made in less than one year compared to...say, Bush's 8 years?
(I think he's already surpassed Bush.)

I think Not...don't forget to stroll through the years...

Bushisms - Adventures in George W. Bushspeak 2000

Would you consider throwing away a trillion dollars a gaff?

I just watched the entire video and wonder what some of you are smoking.

He's there to address a conference. He starts with his planned opening remarks and cuts them short to address the Ft. Hood issue, which was probably mostly ad lib and sounded quite genuine. Today when there's more information he makes a dedicated statement.

I'd wager that the script was edited by his staff and he didn't even know what was going on.

What exactly is the problem again? Oh, I forgot...

-spence

That's a suckers bet if ever there was one:rotf2:

Ummm, that's not a news story.

-spence

maybe he should have started with the shooting and skipped the shout out...:rotf2:

"I want to thank my Cabinet members and senior administration officials who participated today. I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow (ph) was around, and so I want to give a shout out to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner. It's good to see you. "

Ah, the dangers of giving shout outs without a teleprompter. Crow is not a Medal of Honor recipient. As noted by the Congressional Medal of Honor Society:


The Medal of Honor is the highest award for valor in action against an enemy force which can be bestowed upon an individual serving in the Armed Services of the United States. Generally presented to its recipient by the President of the United States of America in the name of Congress, it is often called the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Crow's name is not included on the Society's Medal of Honor recipient list. He was, however, awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, in August.

Obama, often described as "cerebral" by the mainstream media, should know the difference between the Medal of Honor and the Medal of Freedom, especially since he personally awarded the latter to Crow.

Well he did go to Dover AFB at 3AM in the morning with his camera crew to pay tribute to our fallen Heroes. :rolleyes:

Meantime he has left our troops to hang out to dry while he still waits to make a
decision on troop reinforcements. Great for morale and shows more weakness to
those who want to destroy us.

Did you ever stop and think how pathetic whining about how our troops are being "hung out to dry" might just be a bit ironic?

Hell, they've been there for 8 FREAKING YEARS ALREADY, and under Obama troops levels have gone up!

And now he's let them "hang out to dry"??? This makes no sense.

Why are you trying to undermine the mission?

-spence

Under Obama more are being killed and wounded. Now that is not only a disgrace but in a sad pathetic way,.... ironic.

Hmmm, more troops = more wounded...that might just tell you why the Administration is carefully weighing the options.

-spence

Ya, I've had 2 nephews serve in both Afghanistan and Iraq with one still
fighting in Kabul, and I'm trying to undermine the mission ?
That is quite an accusation. :smash:

My question to you Spence is, what is the mission????

Obama said the war against alqaeda should have been fought in Afghanistan
and now when the rubber meets the road, things get hot,
we just finish October with the most fatalities in any month, and he can't make a decision.

So what is his mission????

Wasn't it in August he was told by his general that they needed more troops?
Now it's November and he still hasn't acted.

So what is the Obama mission ?????

Your wrong Spence, under Bush bringing in more troops to Iraq, resulted in less casualties. Obamas problem is he has no plan.

There in lies the problem he did not know what was going on. He is president of the US of A and better damn well know what is going on in his own country. When 9/11 hit President Bush stepped away so he couold be enlightened.

spence, your expectations are so low, nothing suprises, Now I only have a pddly state school degree, but here is a 2 second try at what O should have said,

Ladies and Gentlemen, as president of the US I want to be in front of you celbrating the great things we have as a nation, such as this conference. Unfortunalty I need to address a crisis that is unfolding at FT Hood. Today......blah blah blah details.
Then he can address the conference!
Too much to ask? This guy was sold as a brilliant speaker! He sounded like a High School President!

How soon we forget...

NOTE: THIS IS A CUT AND PASTE FROM:
An Interesting Day: President Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11

FULL DISCLOSURE SCOTTW/JOHNNYD REQUIRED NOTE:d
I DO NOT CONDONE OR SUPPORT ALL OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THIS WEBSITE, BUT THE TIMELINE WAS WHAT i WAS INTERESTED IN. NO

At approximately 8:48 a.m. on the morning of September 11, 2001, the first pictures of the burning World Trade Center were broadcast on live television. The news anchors, reporters, and viewers had little idea what had happened in lower Manhattan, but there were some people who did know. By that time, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon, the White House, the Secret Service, and Canada’s Strategic Command all knew that three commercial airplanes had been hijacked. They knew that one plane had been flown deliberately into the World Trade Center’s North Tower; a second plane was wildly off course and also heading toward Manhattan; and a third plane had abruptly turned around over Ohio and was flying back toward Washington, DC.

So why, at 9:03 a.m.—fifteen minutes after it was clear the United States was under terrorist attack—did President Bush sit down with a classroom of second-graders and begin a 20-minute pre-planned photo op?

Good effort on the copy and paste from that website, but it's wrong.
Spend some time looking over the 9-11 commission reports. You'll see the real testimony of what happened on that day, including sworn statements from FAA employees.

OK.
How does it change the fact that Bush kept reading at the photo op when he was informed?

Even IF they didn't know it was an act of terrorism, it was asserted that Bush lept into action immediately...

I was just pointing out that you posted false information. Bush was originally told that it was a small twin engine plane that crashed into the first tower. He was not told until near the end of the classroom visit that the country was under attack. He was advised not to panic because the press corp was in the back of the room. They were finding out at the same time as him because it was on tv and they were getting cell phone calls. You need to keep in mind that it was being shown on CNN before the FAA even alerted the White House.

lets get back on track here. Its very distrubing that many of you cant be critical of Obama. Almost all of the conv/repubs out here have been critical of Bush. It went out across the airwaves that Obama was gign to address the nation on the shootings and he opened the comments laughing and giving a "shout out"
THIS GUY IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

And let us not forget that a terrorist attack on our soil had not happened since 9/11 until this attack. Hmmm and I thought they all would love us by now.

This wasn't a terrorist attack.

Really:confused: Major Nidal Malik Hasan jumped on a table and yelled "Alah Hu Akhbar" and began the shooting rampage that killed 13 people. What would you call it JD?

A shrink that went over the deep end and committed a horrible mass murder.

Terrorism is "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes."

This was an extremely tragic event, but just because he's Muslim, doesn't make it terrorism.

I'm thinking your wrong here JD.
I believe that had it not been for the PC movement then this would have been prevented and just to remain PC.... we won't call it terrorism. OK? Now we can all feel better. Safer? No.

How exactly would this incident have been prevented "had it not been for the PC movement"?

I believe he caught the attention of the FBI for his anti American remarks. I believe it was overlooked because he was a Muslum. That's not only my believe either JD.
This guy was a textbook terrorist. He meets your discription. He should have been locked up, or at least moved to Amherst. Why wasn't he? The truth will come out about this guy. It already is.

There is so much inaccurate with just about everything you said, I don't even know where to start.

JD, read up on it. At the very least, he was investigated by a joint terrorism task force because of confirmed communications he was having with a radical iman who was possibly linked to terrorist groups.

Where are Buckman's statements so inaccurate? Do you read the information out there?

I know. He was being investigated. That doesn't make this a terrorist act. A mass murder is different than terrorism. Assuming that it's terrorism because he's Muslim is ignorant.

Where? Mostly all of them. Investigations are how other soldiers have the same stresses he faced and what signs of *stress* could be seen to prevent such an incident.

This was a "textbook case" of terrorism. I disagree. This guy committed this mass murder with no intention of influencing government policy or inciting fear into the general public - both of which are conditions of something that actually *would* be a textbook case of terrorism.

Yes, he was "investigated". But, as reported by an official:Buckman also stated that "he should have been locked up." Under what grounds? He had communication with someone that's never had charges pressed against them?

You should try to put some facts behind your targeted criticisms of my posts. The chess game is fun, but only when it's supported. "Read up on it" isn't really a rebuttal. I'm also wondering where the "childish putdowns" were. A note for you though, backhanded insults are no different than blunt ones.

O.k. Johhny. You say Buckman's post is inaccurate, but you don't give examples. All you can muster is that you "don't know where to start." You seem to be intelligent enough that you could base your response on facts, no? By saying what you did, you're taking a little jab at him. You take your little shots at others in this forum all the time in lieu of posting facts to back up whatever your argument is.

First off, I never said it was a terrorist act. I only said that there are people out there that think it might be, and they aren't stupid or crazy if they do think that. Sure, the investigation was ended, but does that not mean that the guy was in contact with anyone who supported terrorism? If he was, it could be concluded that he was acting as a terrorist. Do you think that all terrorist acts have to be massive bombings or flying planes into buildings? Killing 13 people would make it a larger act of terrorism than many that have occured to date if it was in fact terrorism.

Rebuttal? I wasn't offering a rebuttal. I think Buckman can believe what he wants. As for his statement about locking him up, I took it as a joke since he mentioned sending him to Amherst. Do you really think Buckman wants terrorists sent to Amherst?

I rarely "take shots" without supporting my comments.

Pretty clearly stated above that an event being a terrorist act is dependent on the motivation behind it. Yelling "Allah is the greatest" doesn't demonstrate a motivation to incite fear or influence government. Also, not all terrorist acts include the killing of a large number of people, but that doesn't mean that all situations where a large number of people are killed must be a terrorist act. The number of deaths is not a determining factor, the motivation behind the acts are.

If it wasn't a rebuttal to a specific post, then it was just an open-ended criticism?

You'll have to figure that one out for yourself.:devil2: