We just lost 50% of the access to the Cape Cod Canal
 

I just wanted to let every one know a 65 year old customer and his girlfriend was issued a trespass order from Cape Rail Inc for crossing the train tracks, to go to his fishing spot. This means the only access to the entire cape side of the Canal is The Sagamore /Basin access or Bell Rd.

I'll I have to say is Cape Rail you Suck

Screw them! They are gonna have to be handing me mine at 4:00am!!:fury:

Don't their F'in tracks cross our roads etc.????

Exactly my thought Larry

Chance encounter I am guessing! They will not be standing there every minute of every day!!

They will be eating my canal cruiser dust :uhuh:. But they might get me when I stop for some oxygen :fury:.

Amtrak did the same thing here in CT along the Connecticut river. There are a couple places where the only way to access the river is to park and walk across the tracks. They put up no parking signs where the fishermen would park and no trespassing signs along the track. I know it was a big to-do back when it went up about 6 o7 years back, now no one even talks about it. Not sure what came of that as I never really fished the spots that were effected.

I fish many spots that require crossing the tracks. This is pretty silly.

My daughter had to go to court as a teen for trespassing on railroad tracks. It's a big deal. Was going to go on her adult record, but our lawyer worked the strings. I still get really pissed when I think of it. The cop who wrote her up lived around the corner. You can guess what I think of that POS.
The world is being taken away from the common man, everything is illegal these days and everything belongs to corporations. We need to protet this, 5-6 hundred people need to cross the tracks on film for the 6 o'clock news with their middle digits raised. Help me Hank!!

Just keep on fishin'!:uhuh:

unreal...next there will no parking signs lining the canal on that side....with us getting the tickets, thats how they will do it....it just keeps getting tougher year after year.....

Lose more access and see if I "register" to fish next season...."F" em all!

Copy of the trespass order
here is their phone # tell them to F O

Customer Service Direct Line:
(508) 291-0685

Are these the sam guys tthast run the dinner train or is that contracted out?

It is a big deal.......I agree with you and this is not good......one ?...the citation listed wareham as place of incident not bourne....the canal does not go through wareham?????/

I have to frequently cross tracks here in Conn. I think the only time they ticket is if someone got too close to a train and the conductor complainted. Hopefully, there won't be many tickets given out.

The train only crosses the canal 2X per day, correct? Anyone really know?

It is a big deal, how many people get killed walking on , playing on, or crossing tracks.

i'd wager none were fishermen

De-rail their plans.

RR trespassing.....
 

I just learned the alleged violation took place in the town of wareham.....NOT along the canal...........

OMG. I no believe. Really. I no believe. Unreal. What's next, a clean air tax?

Unbelievable -- I can not imagine what they will do on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon when the cyclists and runners use the canal road. There are more people crossing those tracks in an hour than cars crossing over the Bridge! This could be another nail in the access for all denial process. :fury:

Podgurski is one of the owners of CCRR...... See 2006 entry. Time to publicize this incident, just ahead of their "season." I could think of a few bumper sticker slogans.....

Cape Cod Central Railroad - Railroad History

Bring on the hover craft !!

Our right to fish is more important

than their Business !

also from ct and big deal here in spots.i think it may some kind of homeland security thing in 1 area i know of amtrac police will ticket.other spot metro police will ticket-metro spot land on road in would call metro because of parking issues on her road and they would come and ticket.thinking like $75 or $80.:wall:

Same tracks and they said they will enforce in the same manner.
When contacted the police they told me that the RR is well with in their rights to enforce the trespass order.

Then its going to be an intresting summer!!.........:jump1:

2010 Cape Cod Central Railroad arrests men and women anglers, children, cyclists, joggers, strollers, speed walkers, lobstermen (ooops, lobersterpersons - gotta be politically correct), foxes, skunks, rats, gulls, and squirrels in its valiant effort to promote 2 trains a day.

Time to setup a bike jump or a pole vault. Can't arrest you if you don't touch the tracks can they??

This may be getting blown out of proportion? One isolated incident......it ain't gonna change anything! If a guy approaches me he is gonna get nothing but a chuckle and a "catch me if you can" as I ride away on my bike!:uhuh:

I just got off the phone with John Pearson from Cape Rail Inc. I was informed that they will enforce the trespass order on all who cross their property. 1st time a warning 2nd time arrested and prosecution. I was also informed that this will be for all the property which they control, which is all the rail lines on cape cod. He went on saying there is 3 access points on the cape side and only 3 access points all others are not in agreement with the army corps and are not allowable and any use of these areas are not allowed and will be enforced
If you would like to give John a call his direct # is 401-862-5343
This is going to get interesting.

its going to be a tough fight to keep access if they decide that they are serious about preventing trespassing. if the railroad owns the property and there are not established legal right of ways (which would require standard, ADA compliant pedestrian railroad grade crossings with gates) they can do whatever they want on their land. Amtrak, CSX, etc. are all very strict on trespassing - you have to take a training course just to walk on their property as a contractor. the "i've always cut through here" argument really will not hold any water. they've always had the right to keep people out, they can decide to do it whenever they want. i was actually always surprised that cutting across the tracks was tolerated along the canal.

If you call a company representative of course they will tell you they plan on enforcing the rules. They will always give you the standard company line. If they didn't they would open themselves up to all kinds of legal issue.

I would just keep quiet on this issue and see if they start really enforcing the rule on a large scale. This may just have been a case of one person being a jerk. Make a big deal out of it and others may start enforcing it just the first guy doesn't look like a jerk. Police will often do this to protect their own. Hopefully this will be a non-issue.

The only way to change it is to cause enough outrage to bring bad PR to Cape Rail. These battles are not won in the courts as the corporations have too much money. These battles are won in the newspapers, on the radio and in the news.

Unless the business is losing money or politicians might lose an election, the little guy can't win.

As Clogston mentioned, they are completely in their right to enforce trespass laws since they own the property. The difference is if enough people get outraged that they are forced to go back to turning a blind eye.

Great, just great....this means the few remaining peripatetic fisherman must either become canal bikers or take up golf....you know the kind I mean, 3-4 rod holders, fuzzy dice on the handle bars, missing seats, sissy bars, and the like. :fart2:

I'm moving to Greenland.

Is it really going to cause any of you to fish any differently than you always have??? I know it won't affect me....not one bit! See you on the rails kiddies!!:rotf2:

Have you considered adding a side car to your bike? You drive the bike(with me in the side car) and I'll show you all Tony O's secret spots....

Best idea yet!!

another way to look at it is that they have a legal responsibility to enforce trespassing on their land as their operations (running trains down rail) endanger anyone on their property. if someone were to get hit by a train or fall while crossing the rails and get seriously injured, i would think that they could be found criminally negligent and responsible for knowingly allowing the general public to pass through their property, which contains known dangers.

an argument could be made that they should provide passage through their land to the canal as a service to the community, but I don't think it could be forced on them - especially if existing right of ways exist and the access road runs between them. and again, if they did it would have to be provided in a safe and ADA complient(read expensive) way.