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Prices of Surf Bags
I have to say that paying up to $600.00 for a surf bag is way to much for me, the way I beat the crap out of stuff.
I had a hard time paying $95.00 for a single row Aqua Skinz. what are the great advantages of having a bag that costs that much? |
You won't have any more money to waste!:uhuh:
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what are the great advantages of having a bag that costs that much?[/QUOTE] Not having to constantly cut hooks out of the material and not having the seams rip when your trying to climb on a rock spilling all your plugs out. I have a commando 3 tube bag and will be getting a 4 tube. They'll be the last bags I ever get. |
i agree with paul, i have hunter and mak bags- no worries....
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The pricing is hilarious.
Dacron is about as cheap as you can get. :rotf2: |
I'd have to guess you could get an upholsterer to make you one for a lot less.
Even less if pretty does'nt count. |
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300 bucks is a lot of money for something you're going to forget in a parking lot one night at 3am!
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I think Numbskull made one last winter just to spite those who procrastinate.
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I'm a cheap bastard...I can't see spending that much for a "Surf Purse"...I'll wait for the Knock-offs to hit the streets
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Not for nothing, but if the guys here start spending the kind of money necessary to buy Hunter/Mak bags they wont have a dime left to buy your plugs, or anyone elses Don. |
Who is selling $600 plug bags???
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The only problem with those high price bags is you have to fish in the day light so everyone can see you with it. :biglaugh:
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sort of reminds me of
the latest rage in Ladies purses Like TDF calls them :hs:
i got a bunch of nice off white canvas and i enjoy big nasty curved stitching needles so i will take pride in designing and making my own. over the winter. That way if it ever gets ripped off the thief won't get to use it. Hey George? you have the plan? |
In all reality, get a zipper soft sided cooler. Throw 8 -10 eels in it with some lure tubes. 6 lures should be plenty. Each spot you fish should have one or two lures that perform the best there. If you're constantly changing lures, you're missing fishing time. There is really no need to carry 100 lures on you.
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Trying to dig a hook out of material on a pitch black night while standing on a rock getting pushed around will show you the value of spending $ for a bag that doesn't get hooks on it. Fishing from the sand or a boat, its not necessary.
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Its highway robbery! I thought $150 was alot for a bag not too long ago.......but I bought one along with alot of other people......now because we did they raise the bar and people buy the "must have" bags! And in this economy no less!:smash:
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Van Staal bags are great - lightweight, alot of velcro, don't retain water or hooks. Not outrageously priced either,
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I went through 3 bags in less than 2 years because I couldn't rationalize spending a lot on a plug bag, and I'm pretty good about taking care of my stuff. I started this year off with a Precision Pak Ocean Shield 2 and it made it through 3 trips before it started falling apart. Then I got the single row Aquaskinz and it's done fine for me. It fits enough plugs and tins and is small enough that it doesn't get heavy after a long night. There's no sign of wear and tear or seams coming apart. My only gripe is that it doesn't have a holder for a water bottle. That bag cost me $86 and I had to convince myself that it was worth it.
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I finally decided on the AS smal and small tall bags on a belt. Often only need to take one, or the other. Much of the decision was to take any weight and wear off my shoulders. Works for me. They have held up well, and I can move them around to always feel balanced. $400-600 makes me think more than twice, even for a reel, which I consider one of the most critical pieces of equipment. Would not even consider that kind of price tag for a bag....
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Bob,
The high priced bags make everyone THINK your are an experienced and accomplished fisherman....you didn't know this? Plus, they help you catch WAY more fish.......and you'll look dam good doing it!!!:rotf2: |
My $100 VS single row has performed admirably for me. Plenty of velcro, hooks don't get stuck (unless I cram extra plugs in beside the tubes, then they invariably get stuck in the bottom of the bucktail pouches), and it drains + dries quick. One of the best investments I've made in this hobby.
I'd like a custom bag for sure (six tubes would be ideal, and I like the idea of a white interior to better see plugs at night), but I can't justify spending the loot when I have one that does the trick just fine. I've heard iffy things about the MAK bags as well. I don't have one, but some people have told me that their quality is mostly from hype, and they don't stand up to the abuse. Take it with a grain of salt, and I'm sure that there are plenty of people that really like theirs, but it makes me think twice before shelling out a bunch of bills. |
I think it's pretty funny how one of the best guys in New England uses an old mayo jar full of snakes and out fishes about everyone.
I have a 50$ shimano bag that has treated me very well. I beat the hell out of it and never have any problems. My only complaint is the narrow tubes but I pulled 2 out and replaced with a emerald peanuts plastic jar that fits my biggest pikies. |
It's pretty simple, really: buy the bag that you need, and don't buy more bag than you need.
If you do a lot of deep wading, or swim to rocks, buy the best bag you can afford. If you fish the Canal or only stand at the surf line, don't buy more bag than you need. You can insert plugs nose down and hang the tail hook over the top of an insert--and presto--no more hooks getting caught in the drain holes of cheap inserts. Or, don't use tail hooks on swimmers. |
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There's also something to be said for spending what you have to for quality gear that will stand up to beatings.
How many people resist spending $800 for a VS, Saltiga, or ZB, and instead spend $150 on a reel, and burn out the gears after 2-3 seasons? In 10 years you'll spend more than you would have spent by buying the quality reel once. I tried all last winter to convince my fishing partner to just bite the bullet, and buy a Saltiga for Canal jigging and plugging. He was switching to spinning after 40 years of jigging with conventionals, the last 30 almost exclusively Newells--which he'd also burn out regularly. He went for the $150 Emblem Pro instead, and after 100+ nights of jigging, and 30 mornings throwing 2-3 oz plugs, the gears are already going, and he has another month of fishing ahead of him. Now he's thinking of replacing it with a Saltist over the winter, so he's already almost halfway to the price of a Saltiga, and no guarantee that the Saltist won't burn up in 2 seasons, after which it'll be another deuce to replace it. On the other hand, both of us bought the $240 Mojo 10-1/2 footer from St Croix instead of the $450 Legend, and both of us couldn't be more pleased with the Mojo's performance. It was a much better value for the dollar--so the most expensive also isn't necessarily always the best way to spend your money, if you're getting good value for the dollar. Reels break and wear faster than rods. You can get great service out of a $100 Tica or Tsunami rod. But well built reels with quality metal critical components give you more for the dollar than reels with cast white metal gears. There's spending money foolishly, and spending it wisely. Spending big money on a bag that's going to sit on the rocks, or stay slung over your shoulder while you're standing in the wash or along the shore of a bay, isn't spending it wisely IMO. Spending it on a bag that will remain tightly closed while you swim to a rock or skish, and has stitching that will stand up to salt water, and materials that won't tear on rocks, is spending it wisely. If you fish 20 times a year, and toss plugs from the shore or from gentle surf, all you need is the $100 reel. Even if your reels don't go swimming, if you fish 100 nights a year and routinely crank 3, 4 and 5 oz lead against a 4 knot current, that $100 reel isn't long for the world. |
Agreed Mike, I have not once had a problem with any of my Aqua Skinz bags falling apart, I put my tail hooks in first nose up on the longer needles and Pencils, short plugs hang nicely from the insert. I'm not sure why your hooks are getting hung up in the bag maybe over loading? swimming deep wading and climbing with mine I even feel down a 75 foot cliff with no damage to the bag
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Go get 'em Paul !!
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I think some surf fishermen are getting Orvised up.
All hat, no cattle. Like to hang out in the parking lot and talk. Actually I think it's skinned up |
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Think its a great products for $100 (relative to the price of other bags). However, some of those commando bags are nice! |
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Hard plastic inserts, if they're cheap, will crack if the bag smashes against a rock. With well made inserts, neither will happen. Some have larger drain holes in the bottom that the point of a hook can get through and cause the plug to become stuck in the bag. The well-designed and well thought out bags have none of these problems. It doesn't mean that you need to spend $300+ for one, but you should look for those features in a bag. The old Surfcaster Deluxe bag was a hell of a buy for around $130 if you didn't need to carry more than 4 big plugs. The front row of the inserts would only carry 4" or 5" plugs. |
I don't have one of these high end bags but I have some friends who do. The Maks, Commandos, and Ebb points are really well made. The price may be prohibitive for some (like me :( ) but you can get them made how you want them. If you want a rind holder here and a water bottle there with this many bucktail pouches and d-rings all over the place then that is what you get. That is the one huge benefit since there are no bags out there that fill every one of my needs.
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I just have two questions:
1. Is the $600 plug bag made by Gucci? 2. Does it come with gold plugs? |
I got sick and tired of killing every bag that I bought. Aquaskinz was destroyed in less than two months. Had it repairded, then destroyed it again. Next was Bronko, which lasted a bit longer, but also ripped apart.
I certainly dont consider myself an "Orvis Catalog" surfcaster. I have gear that works. I can get away with $150 waders and $50 wetsuits, but as far as bags go it seems that $100 doesnt get you that great of a product. I fish hard. On average I would say 4 nights a week. My gear, including my bag, is completely submerged 80% of the time. Not to mention, getting slammed into rocks, etc... I needed a bag that would stand up to heavy abuse. And BTW ... You ceretainly dont need to spend $600 to get a good sturdy bag. |
lure bags
The $600 bag was probably the Hunter bag that originally retailed for $350 before all these upstart bag makers in the last couple of years. Hunter made excellent bags before closing shop. I hear he is preparing to open again. Anyway he amassed a big following and a longer waiting list for the only true custom bag available. Part of that $600 price is the collectible aspect i guess.
There are many quality custom bags available now for around $300. I've seen the Commando and it is a nice bag. The nice thing about most of these new lure bag makers is they are built 1 at a time and are true custom bags. If you want extra buck tail slots or a pork rind bottle holder, belt clips or even a flap that opens the opposite way you can get it that way. I have several bags including Coastal and the original black Van Staal that are close to 20 years and still going strong. A good bag is worth the price. I hate when my gear falls apart or a manufacturer does not stand behind their product. Some dont really need it but if you swim or fish hard buy the best you can afford. If you get tossed by a wave and lose all your plugs you will wish you had that extra velcro to keep it closed. By the way most of the ideas in these new bags came from Steve Campo down here on Long Island who sold a few of his hand stitched bags for $500 over 20 years ago. |
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