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CowHunter 11-03-2010 12:54 PM

Some good fish South..
 
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A good amount of 50LB class fish were caught in Delaware Bay the Last two weeks, more than previous years... We Landed this 53.9lber in a tourney this past week.... Water was well into the 60's. Thursday felt like summer....

tysdad115 11-03-2010 01:08 PM

Nice Fish! Road trip!!!

fatcow 11-03-2010 01:49 PM

yoyo :uhuh:

GattaFish 11-03-2010 03:56 PM

Thats where they are....

flyvice11787 11-03-2010 05:24 PM

I just hope most of those fish are getting released for the good of the fishery :uhuh:.
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Nebe 11-03-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787 (Post 807675)
I just hope most of those fish are getting released for the good of the fishery :uhuh:.
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Yeah right
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iamskippy 11-03-2010 07:07 PM

i am in!


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Originally Posted by tysdad115 (Post 807615)
Nice Fish! Road trip!!!

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SurfCaster413 11-04-2010 06:00 AM

Nice fish CowHunter

FmTuna 11-04-2010 08:52 AM

The bunker bite is totally on down in the Delaware Bay....

Unlike past years where we moved a boat down there for the fall we are keeping both of them up here in Margate and just "jumping on" with a few friends... but they have been mugging them up.

This is a pic of a friend and family with a 58.29#....54" length, 32" girth. The angler is the young lady on the far right...13 years old, and the new Junior World Record Holder if all goes right !

But as happy as she is, I think it's Dad that is smiling the most!

http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...october-24.jpg

JohnnyD 11-04-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787 (Post 807675)
I just hope most of those fish are getting released for the good of the fishery :uhuh:.
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You really think people that only post here to show pictures of themselves and their friends holding big fish they caught on bait are releasing them?

intrepid24 11-04-2010 10:09 AM

now thats some fish-porn !!
:drool:

CowHunter 11-04-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flyvice11787 (Post 807675)
I just hope most of those fish are getting released for the good of the fishery :uhuh:.
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They were all released into coolers, but hey at least they were caught recreationally. There were dozens of 50's caught in the last two weeks, the boys down there are all enjoying a banner year, they are not complaining that the fishery is dead, for them its been getting better the last few years...

CowHunter 11-04-2010 01:59 PM

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You really think people that only post here to show pictures of themselves and their friends holding big fish they caught on bait are releasing them?

I really don't think it makes a difference if these fish were caught on bait or a plugs, boat or surf, regardless it was their last meal. In return some happy guys are eating some good striped bass with their families!

WoodyCT 11-04-2010 04:11 PM

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Yeah right
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Second that.

Almost time for the annual winter slaughter!

I'll be posting daily updates all winter.

Actually, they are enjoying a heaping helping of toxins and carcinogens with their families sharpie.

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nightfighter 11-04-2010 06:15 PM

Nice report, Ken. I'm jealous. Hey, if I was down there, I would be out fishing for them, with pogies, and keeping some. But that is me. And I am now on the north shore of Boston with no fish around......:smash:

Sea Dangles 11-04-2010 06:59 PM

While I feel Ken posts pics here to antagonize,he always has an audience to lead with their chin.Sheeple like woody,who most likely eat crap every day that they can't even pronounce are ripe for the picking.
Well done Ken, never got a chance to congratulate you at the Cup party but you and your team put a whuppin on the field.Woody might serve the stripers and those who illegally abuse the right granted to fish them if he took a road trip to Rudee Inlet and saw the redneck carnage that goes on over the fence.

JohnnyD 11-04-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 807920)
I really don't think it makes a difference if these fish were caught on bait or a plugs, boat or surf, regardless it was their last meal. In return some happy guys are eating some good striped bass with their families!

Yeah, the bait part of my comment was the main point.

Jimmy Fee 11-04-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 807919)
They were all released into coolers, but hey at least they were caught recreationally. There were dozens of 50's caught in the last two weeks, the boys down there are all enjoying a banner year, they are not complaining that the fishery is dead, for them its been getting better the last few years...

The Delaware Bay fishery really seems to be in good shape. I'm convinced the fall D-Bay fish are the Delaware River spawning stock, which doesn't seem to have nearly the amount of problems with disease and lack of spawning success that the Chesapeake fishery does, which is remarkable when you see what those fish have to swim past in order to reproduce.

WoodyCT 11-04-2010 07:48 PM

Gobbledegook
 
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While I feel Ken posts pics here to antagonize,he always has an audience to lead with their chin.Sheeple like woody,who most likely eat crap every day that they can't even pronounce are ripe for the picking. Well done Ken, never got a chance to congratulate you at the Cup party but you and your team put a whuppin on the field.Woody might serve the stripers and those who illegally abuse the right granted to fish them if he took a road trip to Rudee Inlet and saw the redneck carnage that goes on over the fence.

Say what?:confused:

BigFish 11-04-2010 07:50 PM

:lurk: Let winter begin!:rotf2:

GMen 11-04-2010 08:33 PM

Nice fish, the fall migration is on!

DaveS 11-05-2010 12:41 PM

Hey Kenny, when ya gonna start sending some of them large back into the sea bro? I've killed alot of large myself over the years, but looking back I know it aint healthy for the stocks man. You dont need any more fanny patting brother, everyone knows ya catch em :)

tlapinski 11-05-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 807612)
A good amount of 50LB class fish were caught in Delaware Bay the Last two weeks, more than previous years... We Landed this 53.9lber in a tourney this past week.... Water was well into the 60's. Thursday felt like summer....

Awesome fish for both captain and angler once again. :buds:

CowHunter 11-05-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 808238)
Hey Kenny, when ya gonna start sending some of them large back into the sea bro? I've killed alot of large myself over the years, but looking back I know it aint healthy for the stocks man. You dont need any more fanny patting brother, everyone knows ya catch em :)

Sorry bud.. That fish was worth over 6K.. If I have a choice over killing a 50LB fish which is near the end of her life expectancy range anyway or 6k, Thats a no Brainer.. I let way more fish go than I catch..

http://www.fishasa.com/tournaments/u...10_results.htm

And Yes I plan on killing more for this one for a shot at 100K plus

http://milliondollarrockfishchallenge.com/

Beats bitchin about those that catch em over the winter... Its looking to be a warm winter this year, alot of fish down south will be inside three miles well into 2011...

bart 11-05-2010 06:03 PM

keeping all these big fish is irresponsible. plain and simple

CowHunter 11-05-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 808363)
keeping all these big fish is irresponsible. plain and simple

How big do you think these fish get? How many fish were recorded over 54" inches?? Al McReynolds fish was just that 54"... Just like humans, they reach a certain age and die... We all are aware of the class of fish that are prime spawners.. it Aint 50+lb fish... Besides, If I let it go it Gives JohnnyD a long shot in catching it one day, (Same as winning the lottery), and we dont want that! :-)))

intrepid24 11-05-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 808363)
keeping all these big fish is irresponsible. plain and simple

Each fisherman is entitled to their opinion. If cowhunter catches monsters, and decides to keep them that is his choice, and right.
How can someone be irresponsible when they are abiding by the rules in place ? If anything, try to change the rules, IMHO.

zimmy 11-05-2010 09:04 PM

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How can someone be irresponsible when they are abiding by the rules in place ?

interesting question

redlite 11-06-2010 10:07 AM

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interesting question

HOLY SH!T!!!!
No word of a lie, I think that pic might be my younger sister!!!!!
Go Girl, Go.

JohnR 11-06-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redlite (Post 808535)
HOLY SH!T!!!!
No word of a lie, I think that pic might be my younger sister!!!!!
Go Girl, Go.


In Israel? :rotf2:

piemma 11-06-2010 02:18 PM

It is not the killing of big fish that is hurting the stocks. As Ken pointed out, they are past the prime breeding time. It is the 2, 28" fish that is killing the stocks. Day in and day out.

The 32 to 38" fish are the prime breeders. All the big fish have past the time of carrying viable eggs and in fact most of the eggs the females of that size, 40 to 50#, carry are sterile.

Let's stop this bitchin' about killing big fish. There are enough guys on this board that kill 30 to 40" fish every night that shouldn't be casting stones. Put back the mid size fish and let them become elderly. Why do you think there are not 50s caught everyday. Because some jamoke took home 2, 28" fish 10 times this year so he could be a DUDE and brag to his neighbors.

I get a a real kick out of some of the people who release 2 or 3 fish and think they are conservationist.

WoodyCT 11-06-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 808597)
...All the big fish have past the time of carrying viable eggs....

I've been searching for info on this and can't find anything. Where did you learn this?

I agree that it's the constant killing of 30"-40" fish that is the issue. I have to scratch my head when I see all these guys who fish hard and frequently constantly taking fish. Just b/c the law says it's OK doesn't mean it's the most responsible thing to do.


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zimmy 11-06-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 808597)
All the big fish have past the time of carrying viable eggs and in fact most of the eggs the females of that size, 40 to 50#, carry are sterile.

Can you link to literature that supports this statement? I would like to read it. Thanks


Redlite- Cute sister... and she can party :buds:

piemma 11-07-2010 04:01 AM

[QUOTE=zimmy;808665]Can you link to literature that supports this statement? I would like to read it. Thanks

Zimmy and Woody, I will try to find the article. I read it a few years ago but I also have heard theories that contradict my statement.
But it does make sense when you think about it.

What species, including humans, have females that are fertile at the end of their life cycle? None. No women 70 or 80 years old getting pregnant. No dogs, cats, elephants, lions or tigers or apes or bears nearing the end of their years are having babies.

It would make no common sense that Stripers would be the lone anomoly on this entire planet that allowed the female of the species to remain highly fertile at the end of their life.

numbskull 11-07-2010 06:54 AM

Piemma, you are wrong, and you are too smart a man and too good a fisherman to pass on such error.

Fish are not mammals.
Their fecundity increases with size/age. Here is an article on sea bass (there are similar studies on striped bass) Maturity, ovarian cycle, fecundity, and age-specific parturition of black rockfish | Fishery Bulletin | Find Articles at BNET . It only takes a moment to read the abstract and learn something.

Large bass breed at a different time of the spring than smaller bass, which increases the odds of a successful breeding year (since spawning success is in part weather dependent).

Genetic studies suggest that many good year classes are actually the result of a small number (a few hundred) fish that happened to hit it right. Wipe out a single pre-spawning school of fish and we may wipe out an entire year class.

If, like cowhunter, you want to legally kill large striped bass for whatever reason, go right ahead...it is your own business and, under current law, your right.

It is, however, long past time to drop the rationalization about large fish not being important breeders. It is a delusion people use to fool themselves that they are not hurting the fishery AND OTHER FISHERMEN when they kill these fish.

Fishing legally is not the same as fishing responsibly.

l.i.fish.in.vt 11-07-2010 07:24 AM

Genetic studies suggest that many good year classes are actually the result of a small number (a few hundred) fish that happened to hit it right. Wipe out a single pre-spawning school of fish and we may wipe out an entire year class. George, i know for a fact that this happens with clams.have seen many areas were there are a few chowders and cherries and in following years the same areas are paved with clams.though this hasn't happened very often in recent years.that statement also makes me wonder why people think that taking less fish will do anything to help the stocks.my focus would be on why aren't the fish we have aren't reproducing at a greater rate.is it because we are killing the big fish or envoirmental factors.

zimmy 11-07-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 808665)

It would make no common sense that Stripers would be the lone anomoly on this entire planet that allowed the female of the species to remain highly fertile at the end of their life.

Eels and Salmon to start. Eels are beleived to breed into their 30's.

intrepid24 11-07-2010 04:54 PM

It seems weird to chastise cowhunter for keeping large fish, because many folks here are involved in the stiper cup, including myself. If any 50 lb fish was to be caught during the cup, it is most surely going to die.
Throwing stones seems slightly hypocritical, imho.
Are we any less responsible when we kill large fish for our own clubs ?

sokinwet 11-07-2010 05:29 PM

Way to go Kenny and congrat's to the young lady angler and dad!!

Sea Dangles 11-07-2010 07:45 PM

People generally dislike winners.Yankees,Celtics,Patriots etc.Kenny has proven year after year he is capable of catching and killing large fish and relishes putting it in your face.I have a feeling this need will diminish with maturity.The guy who taught me the most about fishing for bass is an equally accomplished angler who makes it a point to never "pose".Self promotion is not for everybody but Ken has it mastered,no doubt the consumate "poser".I thought DaveS made a great post where he was able to feed Ken's ego and tell him to knock it off at the same time.Some day it will sink in,but until then he will bend over for more fanny patting.He seems to need it and no doubt enjoy it.Perhaps someday he will become an angler who the fishing community respects like Rockfish9 who has gained it by quietly respecting his fishery.


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