wow, Im actually suprised
 

I didnt think this would be that bad, I guess its all fox new's fault

President Obama’s approval rating hits a new low
By Holly Bailey

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After a brief resurgence earlier this year, President Obama's poll numbers are back in the dumps. A new Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday finds Obama's approval rating at the lowest point in his presidency, thanks in part to voter angst over the economy and his handling of the situation in Libya.

Just 42 percent of those polled approve of the job Obama is doing, compared to 48 percent who disapprove, according to Quinnipiac. And in a bad sign for his upcoming 2012 re-election campaign, 50 percent of those polled say he doesn't deserve another term in the White House.

In January, Obama's approval rating was at 48 percent—the highest number it had been in more than a year, though still dramatically lower than his 59 percent approval rating recorded in June 2009.

What's to blame for the president's slump? For one thing, 60 percent of voters disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy, while just 34 percent approve--the lowest number of his presidency.

Meanwhile, Obama appears to have taken a hit over Libya. According to Quinnipiac, just 41 percent approve of Obama's handling of foreign policy—a new low. Asked specifically about Libya, 45 percent disapprove, even as voters are virtually split on whether intervening in the crisis was a good idea.

The number that is sure to cause most concern for Obama's campaign advisers is where the president stands with independents, a voting bloc that was crucial to Obama's win in 2008 and stands to be pivotal again in 2012.

While Democrats and Republicans are literally opposites when it comes to Obama-- 81 percent of GOPers disapprove, while 80 percent of Dems approve—indy voters have often been more split. But in recent months, the group has increasingly soured on Obama. According to Quinnipiac, 50 percent of independents now disapprove of the job Obama is doing.

Another cause for concern is likely to be Obama's standing with women, another pivotal part of the president's coalition of support. The poll finds female voters literally split over Obama—44 percent approve, 44 percent disapprove. Meanwhile, Obama continues to struggle among men, who disapprove of Obama 52 percent to 41 percent.

The wild card is who will be the GOP candidate running against him. Unless anything changes for him, this will be the biggest influence in voter decisions (hopefully sending him back to Illinois/Chicago with all of those great politicians they have already).

I dont think there is anyone for the repubs that will beat him. pretty sad.

Unfortunately........The Evil Known is Better Than The Evil Unknown.

If the economy keeps crawling upwards without a pick up in momentum and the Republicans can find candidates for Pres and VP that will not make middle of the road voters sick casting their vote they will stand a good chance of winning.

Romney? not that he is middle of the road but not a Palin or Newt either. Trump?

Romney will get tore to hell over MA healthcare. Then the open minded libs will tear him up on his religion.

Trump - he's a celebrity, like Palin, but I dont think anyone can seriosuly consider him running the country.

there is no one.

I'd like to see Bobby Jindal run, but it looks like he's going to seek re-election for governor. He's bright, young and has a great background story. He could possibly get some support from younger voters that the Republicans typically don't get.

Except that Jindal had that horrible deer in the headlights State of the Union response.... And as a scientist, Jindal's handling of aspects of the BP spill were questionable, but I understand he was tyring to do something, he just did the wrong things!

Romney: good fiscal sense, he can backpeddle all he wants from Romney Care, but he can't escape it. I could give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about his religion.

Palin. Bachman. Fail.

Newt: "I worked so hard for my country it caused me to run around on my wife" Way too many Skeletons

Huckabee: Making too much money
Pawlenty Who?
Trump: So it's unpresidential to be called 'Dude' by Jon Stewert on Comedy central, but it's OK to be roasted? Too bad, b/c his current model/wife would be a smoking hot first lady.

One interesting thing I heard was that Christie might just wait till the fall while all of the above duke it out and then step in....

The socialist who bailed out the failed chicken processors w/ 50 million in taxpayer money?

Chris Christe, Gov. of NJ, would pick up right where the voters
left off in Nov wanting to cut spending, lower the debt and having a smaller government.
The man says what he means, means what he says and takes no crap
from anybody.
Problem is he is not well enough known, yet.

Yes, he is well known enough.

The problem in a national level, how much would he get done while fighting with the house and senate...

while I agree on the surface, he hasnt been around long enough to show results. he may be cutting costs, but at what expense? from what I've read, crime is running rampant, and hes cutting cops.
Im for fiscal responsibility but we need our basic services covered.
jersey is a long way from washington and the challenges of a global crisis. I believe Christie has said he is not ready

Back to the thread topic - is anyone suprised by O's results? Much lower than I thought.

The problem with Christy is he's been caught in too many lies - Not major type lies but constantly saying "I never was told that" or "That's not what I said" type of lies where people produce emails or tapes of him saying it. He's smart in that in his union battles he doesn't demonize the unions, just their benefits which I think appeals to NJ voters compared to the Wisc. gov.

I guess you didn't actually listen to what he said. If you did, you'd see that he was pretty much on point with everything. Yes, his delivery was very choppy. I wouldn't judge his qualifications based on him being uncomfortable his first time addressing the entire nation live following the President's big speech. Lot's of pressure there. If looking comfortable and being smooth while giving speeches made you a good President, Obama wouldn't even have to campaign for 2012. He'd be a shoe in.:rotf2:

Cpt. Crunch, is that you? Welcome back to the site. I though you had a lifetime ban?

Like, stimulus is bad, unless it is coming to my state...

I don't judge him on that. I think voters will.

You have to remember that when he made that speech, Obama was going to save the country with the stimulus package. In hindsight, Jindal proved to be right about it being a waste. He also said that more government intervention was going to be bad for the country, which has been the case so far.

I'm not saying Jindal is a great Presidential candidate right now, but he looks pretty good when compared to some of the others. His approval rating in his home state is excellent, and the skeletons in his closet are much more easily explained than some of the other Republicans'.

But he still put his hand out. Other gov's rejected the money and associated projects (like Christie w/ the tunnel) even if the merit might have been there...

I agree with RIJ, I've yet to see a viable candidate emerge....

If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, Jindal rejected provisions for a big chunk of stimulus money. The money he accepted was for schools and jobs, and was used for those things.

Again, I don't think he's the ideal candidate, but I think he'd have a better chance than some of the other choices. And remember, a lot of people didn't think Obama was a viable candidate back in 2008.

As for "taking the evil you know over the evil you don't know", I'd take a chance that anyone else could only be an improvement.

I like a lot about Christie's message but a year or two in public office, by the time of the election, is not a lot of experience or a record to evaluate whether he would be a good president.

People were saying the same thing about Bush in 2004.

The GOP has some good people to work with but there's a good chance the party will rip itself apart rather then appeal to the middle. A number of the best candidates are an election cycle away from being ready.

I think if the economy continues to slowly improve and none of the foreign situations deteriorate Obama has a decent chance at re-election. Libya is certainly a wild card that could help/hurt considerably.

If the trend come election season isn't down, independent voters are going to give Obama a lot of slack for enduring a very challenging presidency.

-spence

He rejected money to extend unemployment. Not sure if he refused anything else. but he's still a pol: ThinkProgress Jindal takes credit for stimulus, presents constituents with jumbo-sized stimulus check.

:smash:

Really Bryan? Think Progress is your source? I didn't think even you were liberal enough to use that as a source.:rotf2:

I wonder what the people he represents would have done if he rejected the entire stimulus that was available? He played it pretty well by playing both sides of the fence. Maybe he's a better politician than you think? By the way, he rejected about $98 million.

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No, but I can google too :love:


I seem to recall a good bit on the Daily show about this, where Jindal 'rejects 2.8 Billion in stimulus, but accepts 2.7 Billion in stimulus' suggesting the 98Mil was essentially a token rejection, but I don't have time to look it up before I need to finish up and get out of the office.

If your talking the City of Camden your right as the city cut 50% of
the police force, but not so in the rest of the state. Crime in NJ started
rising in 2008 under Corzine.
He's turning budgets back to individual cities where they detremine how to
live within their means. Home rule.

I agree about experience, but he's has an excellent record as 10 years
Freeholder and 6 years as NJ Attorney General. Right now or soon two years as Governor sure beats a community organizer with a year or so as a jr Senator.

I just can't get over Spences reply.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Be more specific.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

He's talking about the words you typed.

Hope that helps.

I don't know but that last line even had me giving it a Robot Chicken "W-w-w-WHaaatttt" :shocked:

it's a little amusing to see the various criticisms of the potentials from people who voted for Obama and additionally, Lincoln Chaffee(can you say "deer in the headlights"?)....but I guess when you constantly reference the Daily Show, Comedy Central and now, Think Progress as your prime sources for information...much is understood:biglaugh:

No, my actual sources then to be:
Morning Joe
Projo
NY Times online
WSJ Online

but the daily show had a funny bit that I recalled easier than a specific article. but then again, I'm not S-B's most proficient cut and paster.

I like to provide some evidence for my assertions, you'd think a scientist would appreciate something like that rather than vague.."And as a scientist, Jindal's handling of aspects of the BP spill were questionable"....and the ever present "most experts/everyone... agree(s)" from your buddy :)

hope you caught this in the ProJo the other day

http://www.projo.com/opinion/columni...5.1f420cc.html

Here's an article that pretty much sums things up for the GOP.

Even Newt Gingrich A Little Depressed By Prospect Of Him Running For President | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

"If the trend come election season isn't down, independent voters are going to give Obama a lot of slack for enduring a very challenging presidency"


I hope that independents are educated enough to understand that O's presidency may be in the top 40% of challenging terms, but no where as high as many other presidents.
To name a few -
Jackson
Lincoln
Grant
Wilson
Roosevelt
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
GWB

Not even close.


Most of what people are unhappy about, he brought on himself.

Funny, I just saw both Tom Brokaw and Pat Buchanan remark the other day that they couldn't remember a US president in their lifetimes that has had to deal with so many challenges as BO early in their presidency.

Freaking lightweights...

Not sure anyone is going to think about Abraham Lincoln or JFK in the voting booth.

They will think about what Obama inherited coming in, notably two wars and a massive recession. As I said, if the trend is up independent voters will take this into account. Hell, even Bush got sympathy in 2004...and if the trend it down he won't get the same.

Please explain why you think this isn't a well reasoned assertion.

-spence

[QUOTE=RIJIMMY;848400
Most of what people are unhappy about, he brought on himself.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I've be getting so confused lately. I thought he inherited 2 wars and the worse economy since the depression

yeah...I guess everyone was just expecting way too much.....


"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals. Thank you", Barry O' Bomber

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::biglaugh::biglaugh::b iglaugh::biglaugh:

Spence....."If the trend come election season isn't down, independent voters are going to give Obama a lot of slack for enduring a very challenging presidency"


Obama could definitely win in 2012...he just needs to motivate certain people to show up at the voting booths where no identification is required to "punish their enemies"

GOP says 5,000 non-citizens voting in Colorado a 'wake-up call' for states

By Debbie Siegelbaum - 03/31/11 01:23 PM ET

Republicans on the House Administration Committee want to shore up voter registration rules in the wake of a Colorado study that found as many as 5,000 non-citizens in the state took part in last year’s election.

..........

When questioned by an illegal alien student today who showed him a deportation letter, President Barack Obama said he did not want to deport illegal alien students like the one who questioned him, he wanted them to succeed.

The exchange came during a town hall event sponsored by the Spanish-language television network Univision at a Washington, D.C., school. An illegal alien student, who appeared via Skype, asked: “My question for the president is, why [is the government] saying that deportations have stopped or the detention of many students like me, why is it that we are still receiving deportation letters like this one?”

Obama answered, “We have redesigned our enforcement practices under the law to make sure that we’re focusing primarily on criminals, and so our deportation of criminals are up about 70 percent. Our deportation of non-criminals are down, and that’s because we want to focus our resources on those folks who are destructive to the community.

“And for a young (ILLEGAL ALIEN) person like that young woman that we just spoke to who’s going to school, doing all the right things, we want them to succeed,” Obama said

(AND MAKE SURE YOUR ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS VOTE FOR ME)


"LET ME BE CLEAR, SOME ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE CRIMINALS AND SOME ARE NOT AND YOU KNOW WHICH YOU ARE, THOSE WHO ARE NOT MAY DISREGUARD THEIR DEPORTATION NOTICES AND PROCEED TO THE VOTING BOTH AND THOSE WHO ARE SHOULD TRY TO GET TO THE VOTING BOOTH BEFORE WE DEPORT YOU...FOR THE 8TH TIME"

this girl should sue America for stress and mental anguish...how is any non-criminal illegal alien student supposed to focus on their free tax payer provided education and "succeed" when they are continually receiving these pesky deportation notices at their home in the shadows?????????????

Paul, please do some research. Its very easy to find.
No one is blaming O for the wars or the economy.
What they are blaming him for is-

A healthcare law that was never popular and will not save the country or individuals money. There is so much evidence now that he and the dems fed a lot of crap to the people. What evidence do I have? My insurance is up 35% in 2011.

His stimulus that really didnt do anything

His lack of bipartisianship until the dems got slaughtered

His lack of direction, views and action on the economy

Those are what has driven independents away from Obama, What you mentioned in your sarcastic post was what drew independents to him.