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Just n time 06-26-2011 10:52 AM

Late night stickups of fisherman???
 
Heard some ugly stories of surf buds getting held up late at night around the southshore area. Guys threatning to shoot people if they don't hand over their wallet,watch,rod... bad enough with the breakins down the canal in the wee hours..I fish late at night alot when there is really no one around and this concerns me..anyone else hear anything??

BEETLE 06-26-2011 12:21 PM

Eventually these dirtbags will F with the wrong guy(s) and get their heads kicked in.
Hopefully that will just happen - nobody will know but them and we'll (and the cops) never hear about it...

FISHING_FOOL 06-26-2011 01:26 PM

I wondered about this same thing as I was getting ready to go out last evening on the south shore. To carry or not to carry?? If someone asks me to give them my wallet they will surely be surprised to see what comes out of my waders....... Eventually they will ask the wrong guy to hand over his things.

Where else have you guys heard of this happening recently?

afterhours 06-26-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BEETLE (Post 868274)
Eventually these dirtbags will F with the wrong guy(s) and get their heads kicked in.
Hopefully that will just happen - nobody will know but them and we'll (and the cops) never hear about it...



we can only hope. a lot of guys i know are licensed to carry.

Swimmer 06-26-2011 02:18 PM

Where have the vehicle break-ins occuring around the canal? Just curious.

chaz 06-26-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Just n time (Post 868262)
Heard some ugly stories of surf buds getting held up late at night around the southshore area. Guys threatning to shoot people if they don't hand over their wallet,watch,rod... bad enough with the breakins down the canal in the wee hours..I fish late at night alot when there is really no one around and this concerns me..anyone else hear anything??

take my wallet and my watch ,but dont mess with my rod its worth more than both of those other things cell phone too.

ProfessorM 06-26-2011 02:52 PM

If they ask me I'll be handing it over.
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ivanputski 06-26-2011 03:09 PM

Nothing changes an attitude quite like a boga grip to the head followed by korkers to the face.

JohnR 06-26-2011 03:37 PM

Might be time to start listing some generic places where this is happening and more buddy system. I have some places I love to fish solo and some places I love to fish solo but am wary of thugs.

numbskull 06-26-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 868293)
If they ask me I'll be handing it over.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Screw your rod, and who want's a married man's wallet, I'd go for your plug bag. :humpty:

FISHING_FOOL 06-26-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 868302)
Might be time to start listing some generic places where this is happening and more buddy system. I have some places I love to fish solo and some places I love to fish solo but am wary of thugs.

I agree!

Where are some of these places?

I haven't been doing well this year in my standard spots and am going to start trying some new spots. I don't want my greeting to be 3 random guys who try and take all my stuff.

Cool Beans 06-26-2011 04:10 PM

carry one of those small super bright led flash lights. I have one that fits in palm of my hand with 21 leds on it. Its like a spot light, the temp blindness followed by the the beat down he'll get with me swinging a club and an igloo ice chest will probably mess up his evening.

:fishin::fight::fishin:

JohnnyD 06-26-2011 04:13 PM

Sounds like I'll be expediting my search for carry weapon. I got licensed earlier this year but haven't bought anything yet. The misses has been apprehensive as to her comfort level of a gun in the house but when she reads about this crap and the incidents of people getting robbed in areas I work, the more comfortable she gets with the idea.

BEETLE 06-26-2011 04:16 PM

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bigbuck28 06-26-2011 04:58 PM

i wonder if the thugs know we "arnt suppose" to carry on the canal...Im going to have 3 stella sw's i may be packing some insurance from now on at the ditch.....:wavey:

saltfly 06-26-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 868313)
Sounds like I'll be expediting my search for carry weapon. I got licensed earlier this year but haven't bought anything yet. The misses has been apprehensive as to her comfort level of a gun in the house but when she reads about this crap and the incidents of people getting robbed in areas I work, the more comfortable she gets with the idea.

Just curious about the length of time from placing your application with the police dept to getting your LTC permit.I placed mine the last week of April and am still waiting for the call from the PD.The detective said appx 40 days.Is it working days or calendar days?

Just n time 06-26-2011 05:30 PM

I heard there have been some problems around Braintree/Quincy area. The problems down the canal have been going on for sometime now.Breakins to vehicles and bullying by some drunks and such..There have been some pretty hammered guys fishing down there lately roaming the service road at like 2-3am. Guy offered me some free bait one night and said I would have to follow him to his car to get it a few weeks back..I declined thinking nothing of it, now I wonder what he was up to..I was alone..

Just n time 06-26-2011 05:35 PM

I'll be fishing the drop late tonight but staying close to home,,I'l take a dozen fish and a few small keepers for the grill over a hassel at the ditch.. time to check chatam..go see the boys at the goose and fish with "THE GOODS".. least it's safe up that way!!!

Hookedagain 06-26-2011 06:55 PM

Paul, if all we have to do to get your stuff is ask.....can I have your rod and plug bag??

ProfessorM 06-26-2011 07:12 PM

lol. I thought it had to be a stick up. I'm 5' 6'', 155 and 53 years old and I figure if I just hand it over I'll live to fish another day. My days of handing out ass kickings end when I out grew beating on my sisters.

Rob Rockcrawler 06-26-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 868350)
lol. I thought it had to be a stick up. I'm 5' 6'', 155 and 53 years old and I figure if I just hand it over I'll live to fish another day. My days of handing out ass kickings end when I out grew beating on my sisters.


Lol, good one Paul.

I cant see my self getting into a fight with a couple of guys. I would do all i could to avoid/deescalate the situation. I cant see something like that happening with just one person trying to mug you of your gear.

Backbeach Jake 06-26-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 868303)
Screw your rod, and who want's a married man's wallet, I'd go for your plug bag. :humpty:

A married man's wallet has his driver's license and that's about it...Paul's plug bag on the other hand....

Green Light 06-26-2011 09:14 PM

I would reach into my surf bag, pull out my bucktails, and let them have it!

jimmy z 06-26-2011 09:33 PM

This is bad news. I usually fish alone, but will keep this mugging thing in mind. No need for this kind of problem.

ivanputski 06-26-2011 10:19 PM

http://blogs.amctv.com/future-of-cla...sh-bronson.jpg

If you know the movie, Paul Kersey had just about enough too...

JohnnyD 06-26-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saltfly (Post 868320)
Just curious about the length of time from placing your application with the police dept to getting your LTC permit.I placed mine the last week of April and am still waiting for the call from the PD.The detective said appx 40 days.Is it working days or calendar days?

The Deputy Chief here couldn't have been easier to deal with and assured me that he'd put my application into the state that day I met with him, as long as my background check came up clean. My application went in March 17 and I had my license in-hand mid-late April. He told me, "The state has been really slow lately. If you don't have your license within 6 weeks, give me a call and I'll check with the state."

According to the MA licensing process, the state is supposed to have the applications processed and the license in the mail within 40 days but those who make the rules are allowed to break them.

If I were you, I'd check in with the person who took your application and I'd be calling the state.

GregW 06-27-2011 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Just n time (Post 868262)
Heard some ugly stories of surf buds getting held up late at night around the southshore area. Guys threatning to shoot people if they don't hand over their wallet,watch,rod... bad enough with the breakins down the canal in the wee hours..I fish late at night alot when there is really no one around and this concerns me..anyone else

hear anything??

I heard of one story of this in Quincy and the story sounded a bit off.
Who are these people telling you this and where did it happen? Did it happen to them or they knew someone , who knew someone, who knew someone?
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Back Beach 06-27-2011 08:50 AM

A kind word of advice to all you gun packing wannabe vigilantes:

























Don't forget to put the water in...

HanoverStriper 06-27-2011 09:01 AM

Can we post the town or towns where this has been reported? I would like to know if I have to be looking over my shoulder when I get out.

bucko 06-27-2011 09:28 AM

There was an article in the Patriot Ledger a couple of weeks ago about a fisherman who got mugged near the CVS on the Southern Artery in Quincy.

HanoverStriper 06-27-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bucko (Post 868424)
There was an article in the Patriot Ledger a couple of weeks ago about a fisherman who got mugged near the CVS on the Southern Artery in Quincy.

Yeah, I remeber hearing about that one. Guy woke up in a ditch hours later???

Should I watch my back on the mean streets of Scituate, Marshfield, and Duxbury?

tysdad115 06-27-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevarino (Post 868428)
Yeah, I remeber hearing about that one. Guy woke up in a ditch hours later???

Should I watch my back on the mean streets of Scituate, Marshfield, and Duxbury?

Unfortunately the stuff that makes people commit robbery is everywhere. The places where you would least expect it are where you should keep your guard up the most. I couldnt tell you how many cars have been broken into in my neighborhood, stuff stolen from yards etc. Keep in mind these people arent the ones struggling because of a tough economy, they are drug addicted low life. Our hard work and nice gear is only another fix for them. There is safety in numbers fish with friends if you can. If these jackwagons are carrying weapons ,nothing is worth a shot at your life. The thought of blinding them with my led light and introducing them to my dive knife sounds great sitting behind a desk but in reality I dont know how I would react.

FISHING_FOOL 06-27-2011 10:07 AM

So this "problem" has happened once or twice....... This is basically a wasted thread!

Just n time 06-27-2011 10:41 AM

It amazes me how in the world someone can criticise this as a wasted thread.:fury:We are all trying to help one another out here. If it happened to you"FISHING FOOL" or a friend of yours you might feel a little different.:smash: NO ONE wants to get mugged or beaten up and one or two times is too many. Save your criticism please for something constructive and give us all a break:wall:

Typhoon 06-27-2011 10:46 AM

I'm a quincy resident. If you're fishing anywhere near Father Bill's homeless shelter, you're asking for trouble. I also would be very careful fishing at night at Chappel rock. It's very secluded and the it seems that East Boston's finest have seemed to claim it as their territory.

As I said before I carry my .38 when I'm fishing the back river in Weymouth as much for the coyotes as the rabid heroin zombies.

The last thing you need walking back to your car in the pitch black is a rabid coyote.

FISHING_FOOL 06-27-2011 10:49 AM

Hey settle down. 4 people have asked for specific location and no one can provide them! What that tells me is that this is not factually based. "Give us all a break"? What are you talking about????
Try and make sense (facts)!

PS: I wouldnt loose my things I'd be filling out paper work for the dead guy who tried to rob me!

Just n time 06-27-2011 11:26 AM

You said this was a WASTED THREAD!!!! Most of us here are married and have families.We gave you places,Quincy,Braintree,The ditch. Check with the State Police if you want more info.To most of us who fish late at night and have families this is VERY SERIOUS and not to be made light of. Better for you to keep your mouth shut:fury:If someone died how would you feel... college students!!!!:smash:eat some humble pie and don't ever criticise a post like this..:wall:

Fishoholic 06-27-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL (Post 868442)

PS: I wouldnt loose my things I'd be filling out paper work for the dead guy who tried to rob me!

and hopefully not behind bars for killing some lowlife who wanted your fishing pole.

they do happen... I'm pretty sure it was westport last year where someone had rocks thrown at them and a 75yr old fisherman was robbed by this guy,

http://www.wickedlocal.com/westport/...136eaadd8c.jpg
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Licino Fernandes Lopes, 22, was charged with armed robbery, assault and battery on an elderly person, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, larceny of more than $250 and intimidating a witness. Two others, one a 16-year-old, are expected to be charged with the same crimes. Four others could be charged with disturbing the peace, said police spokesman Detective Jeff Majewski.

Read more: Fishermen attacked, robbed at beach - Westport, MA - Herald News Fishermen attacked, robbed at beach - Westport, MA - Herald News
Scum bags....

It happens guys so be aware of your surroundings! And you damn well not pull out you gun if you aren't fully prepared to use it and seriously feel like your life is being threatened.

I wonder if it makes any off you gold VS owners make you wish you went with black.

numbskull 06-27-2011 12:34 PM

I suspect if you shoot someone trying to rob you, you'll probably get off, but it will cost you 10's of thousands of dollars and wreck several years of your life.

I don't know this for a fact, but I'd guess if you use deadly force to protect yourself outside your home you will put yourself in a position where you need to justify it in court. That is not likely to be easy or cheap.

Blowing the head off some 18 yo kid who wants your wallet to feed his Percocet habit is probably frowned upon once tempers have cooled. Better to give him your rod and go steal Paul's.

piemma 06-27-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FISHING_FOOL (Post 868433)
So this "problem" has happened once or twice....... This is basically a wasted thread!

I don't know about the fishing part but you sir, certainly are a fool.


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