So why isn't our President
 

showing Presidential leadership by cancelling his vacation and calling
back Congress to pound out a real solution to our financial and job crisis.

This of all times is the time to lead.
Where is the "razor sharp" emphasis on job creation?

You think he's going to fix it next week?
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A true leader would take the bull by the horns and start imediately.

Problem is , he's got the bull by the tail. :hihi:

"Manana, manana, manana is good enuff for him."

It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

Spence, if he took the reins and brought Congress back, his ratings
would go up. No doubt in my mind.
If he were a true leader, he would be above politics and make his priority
leading America out of the financial debacle and getting the jobless back to work.

Maybe it's "above his pay grade."

If he had his priorities straight and worked on the econmy rather than all
that time spent on Obamacare we would be in a lot better shape.
Unfortunately, it wasn't part of his agenda.

Have they figured out by now that we cut our own throats by buying imported crap cheap that used to be made here with pride and quality and made to last ?:confused::smash::fury:

keep buying junk from overseas and see where that gets us jobwise :hs:

pretty soon when we stop buying their crap, they are going to slow down there also since they'll run out of customers:smash:

America was good at educating the world, can we still do that? Let's educate ourselves!

Buy American

A good leader is supposed to set a good example

we need a great leader now

Apparently the french president takes the situation more seriously and he canceled his vacation.

We do not need a great leader, we just need a leader that is willing to take the country in the right direction.

Spence's leader can not do that.

he was born to follow

"The GOP"....... "stated" this as their highest priority when?....did the Dems NOT want Bush to be a "one term president"? Does any party want the leader of the other party to NOT be a one termer?

such sophistry Spence.....tisk tisk :uhuh:


wait....I found it...shocking

Decision 2010 on msnbc.com
GOP leader's top goal: Make Obama 1-term president


funny... that's what the headline says but nowhere in the article is it "stated" even though it would be stating the obvious would it not?.........MSpenceNBC is great :uhuh:

according to THINKPROGRESS ..GOP Rhetoric Evolves From ‘Jobs Is Highest Priority’ To ‘Nothing More Important Than Abortion’

REALCLEARPOLITICS ....Banning Federal Abortion Funds "Highest" GOP Priority

Cleveland.com GOP's No. 1 priority -- burying the estate tax -- is telling

Bisiness Insider...The GOP's #1 Priority Next Year: Deprive Obamacare Of Its Funding

:rotf2:DailyDemocrat...Time to take GOP back from radical right. Confronting them and wresting the Republican Party from their grip is a matter of the highest priority for the nation.



OUCh!!!!...say it ain't so HUFFPO

Huffington: Obama's Highest Priority Is Campaigning For Reelection

I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:
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cartoons and cut and paste to say thing could be worse?...c'mon JD...always back to Sarah isn't it?.....what did you paste there on Sarah's head? did she shoot the bear?...is it antique?...maybe hubby got it or granmpa passed it down? Why didn't the astute reporter ask..."who shot that bear right there on the floor at my feet"?

Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.

Precisely why I said "I still think"

As least I think Obama is doing what he thinks he should do and what's best for the Country. Aside from a few elements of the Health Care bill, both O's foreign and domestic policy has actually been pretty moderate.

Palin would have likely been put in a sack for 4 years, but I fear McCain would have been trying to do what he thought others would be wanting them to do just like in the campaign.

Unless someone shoved some fire in his face to wake him from the Black Sleep of Kali Ma...he could have just been a Right Wing zombie :hihi:

-spence

The GOP has worked against just about every Obama action since his inauguration on the basis that he fundamentally runs counter to American values. It's not even about policy...

You sure didn't see this with Bush in either election.

McConnell probably made the strongest direct statement as a GOP leader, but it's been underneath everything since day one...

-spence

You come up with some good stuff JD, but in this case there
are no facts to back up what you THINK might have been.

You have your facts to back up your thinking but another fact is he's
not doing what's best for the country by taking a vacation while
Rome Burns.

You say a week won't make a difference. That's our problem,
politicians are always putting off tackling the tough problems
until there's a crisis and then it's too late.

No time like the present.

Nor are there facts to the contrary. I was unaware that posts with opinions are now unacceptable.

As a Republican, let me say that's precisely where their priorities should be. Obama could not be doing more damage if he was a paid Al Queda agent.

Spence, can you please tell me what evidence there is, that liberal economics are a good idea? Can you tell me a liberal state that's thriving? Can you show me a state that isn't suffering because of union benefits? Can you show me an inner city, dominated by Democrats, that is improving? How many countries in Western Europe are thriving?

Their priority should be fixing the country...I'm not happy paying them their salary to spend the next year and a half focusing on removing the president instead of working on the issues that need to be fixed.

just so we can repeat the process the next 4 years w/ the roles reversed.

that is the #1 problem w/ politics....they spend more time trying to screw the other party than working for US.....

Number 2!

Well, looking at the past century of tax increases, debt increases, regulation increases and bloated government...and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.

Can't be all bad.


Probably not. All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs :hihi:


Most states are suffering because of bad management. I've never advocated union excess. I'd also note that most state and municipal budget issues were created at the local level...

Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?

Off the top of my head I can think of one that has extensive social programs that's doing great...GERMANY.

-spence

of course this question will be asked until 2111

Sure opinions are acceptable.

It was my opinion on the same post that you come up
with some good stuff. :hihi:

sooo...as usual you are just making things up and stating them as fact :uhuh:

Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
" The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president". -spence

this is stupidity :uhuh:

The proof is in the pudding.

-spence

slither :uhuh:

I promised...so here you go...you stated an actual fact...:uhuh:

This pretty much sums things up...

Obama Turns 50 Despite Republican Opposition | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Dad, throwing his Bolshevik rear-end out will be good for the country. We need someone who understands that no matter how sensible it seems, we cannot get out of this by taxing rich people. If it was that simple, I'd be in favor of it.

Obama is a man for whom ideology trumps mathematical reality. If we cannot get Obama to face irrefutable mathematical facts, then he has to go.

Spence - you are precious, you really are...

"and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.Can't be all bad."

Funny, when Obama was campaigning on the need for "change", libs like you were not saying that things weren't so bad. All they talked about was how bad things were, thus the need for "change". And things are worse now than they ever were in 2008. Go figure.

Furthermore, all that borrowing you say isn't a big deal? It soon will be. Medicare has a $30 trillion shortfall projected for the next 50 years. If you don't think that's a big deal, you are as clueless as they come.

"All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs "

Spence, listen to me, please. Wealth re-distribution is the cornerstone of your ideology, not mine. Now you are complaining that rich states are suffering because they are forced to give too much money to poor states. SPENCE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT WEALTH RE-DISTRIBUTION!!! You sound like a tea-partier. AND YOU'LL STILL VOTE DEMOCRAT. Unfreakinbelievable.

"Most states are suffering because of bad management."

And which party has dominated in the states that are nearly bankrupt? CT, IL, RI, MA, CA? Notice any patterns there? Those are blue states. TX is adding jobs like crazy.

"I've never advocated union excess."

Your party does. If you mention that unions need to be reasonable, libs say you hate the middle class.

"Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?"

I can show you that red states are the ones adding jobs. I can show you that, but it won't mean anything to you, because somewhere along the way, you surrendered any ability to think.

I agree he's got to go....but isn't that our job as voters to get rid of him. I prefer that washington "Business" doesn't come to halt because the next 14 months they need to focus on removing him.

That time can be spent more constructively trying to fix what's broken....if they did the right thing they wouldn't have to worry about being re-elected

from MSNBC to the ONION...

and you chastise Jim about FACTS ...:rotf2:

Ever since the Democrats took the Senate in 2008 they GOP has pretty much played a prevent defense, starting with the use of the filibuster skyrocketing to essentially shut down the normal operation of the Senate.

About the only constructive thing done in a bi-partisan manner since was the addition of another ladies bathroom in the House.

-spence

I didn't say it was factual, I said it pretty much summed up the situation.

-spence

I would never accuse you of employing facts to sum up a situation accurately.....

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...1&d=1313265681

Obama didn't campaign that America was bad, he was talking about the leadership in Washington.

You're misquoting me, I never said that debt wasn't a big deal, rather, that even considering it the past 100 years have been pretty damn good for Americans. Additionally, that debt is a product of both Democratic and Republican leadership...

Not complaining that they are suffering, rather pointing out that your Red states are benefiting disproportionately from this "liberal" ideology on one measure. If you are to present a rounded argument I'd think you'd want to factor this in.

The real world isn't black and white, or red and blue for that matter.

About 40 states have serious budget shortfalls.

And as has already been mentioned, the job growth in Texas has largely been driven by high energy prices and perhaps investment in education along with a generally pro-business climate. Look at what Perry has done to fight environmental regulation to benefit local corporations...but at what expense to the health of Texans?

There's also the other side of Texas, it has one of the worst poverty rates in the Country. In fact looking nationwide the bottom of the list seems to be filled with Red states.

My party? It may surprise you how I vote...

My thinker is actually working quite well.

The problem Jim is that your arguments are really shallow. Get below the surface just a bit and the real world is a heck of a lot more complicated. I agree some Red states are doing well, but did you ever ask yourself why? Is it simply because they're Red or are there other reasons like Federal investment or industry trends that are part of the equation? If some Red states are doing well does that mean they're all doing well? Does that mean all Blue states are failing?

Are EU nations struggling simply because of large social programs, or could an inability to integrate millions of immigrants also be a factor?

The funny thing is that the success of the USA hasn't been because of liberal or conservative ideas...it's been because of both.

It was interesting to see the Republican debate the other night when every candidate said they wouldn't take a 10:1 spending cut to tax increase ratio to reduce the deficit. This doesn't sound like leadership, it sounds like absolutism of those trapped by dogma.

Reagan would have taken 10:1 and proudly proclaimed it as a great Conservative success.

Remember the wise words of Obi Wan Kenobi - "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

-spence

Spence, I never said things were simple, nor are my conclusions over simplified. But some things are not as sophisticated as elite liberals want them to be.

For example, you cannot spend more than you take in, forever.

Spence, you are correct, we have been great for the last 100 years,neither liberal ideology nor conservative ideology has prevented that. However, our greatness is now directly threatened by liberal ideology. Here is what's changed...in response to deranged hatred of Bush, the Dempcratic party, at the national level, has endorsed San Francisco-style radical liberalism. The Democratic party has moved 100 miles to the left,and that has happened at precisely the wrong time for our country.

Our debt has never been $14 trillion, and that's expected to increase to $22 trillion by 2020. That ignores Medicad's $30 trillion shortfall.

Conservatives recognize that the time for ignoring this is over. Liberals want to continue to kick the can down the road, because liberals know they need to keep mailing out checks to secure votes. Conservatives like Paul Ryan offer solutions to deal with the threat. What do liberals do? Instead of suggesting a better alternative, THEY MAKE A COMMERCIAL SHOWING RYAN PUSHING OLD LADIES OFF A CLIFF. That's YOUR SIDE SPENCE, not mine. Real f-ing productive. Really honest. Are you proud of those commercials? You get a kick out of that?

Spence, we are facing the most forseeable, the most predictable, crisis that you can imagine. And one side, your side, continues to demonoze those who dare to say "I think we should address this...". One side, your side, frames the debate in terms of class warfare, instead of focusing on the facts. Why? Because it's easier to blame the boogeyman (the rich) than it is to say that we all need to sacrifice.

Liberalism is a complete, total mental disorder. "Let's solve our debt problems by continuing to give fabulous benefits to public unions. Let's mandate that health insurers charge nothing for birth control. Let's give out free cell phones. Let's sit on jillions of gallons of oil, because God knows we have no use for that revenue right now." Somehow, liberals believe thatthe solution is to spend more. Spence, I hate to break it to you, but you cannot dig your way out of a hole.