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UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 12:34 PM

The PLAN
 
Obama to deliver jobs address to joint session of Congress - TheHill.com

"the president said he will urge Congress to put aside politics and focus on creating jobs during the 8 p.m. speech."

:rotf2::rotf2:



HOW CONVENIENT

"The speech will fall on the same night Texas Gov. Rick Perry makes his debut on the GOP 2012 debate stage."

"It is coincidental," said Carney, who explained that a number of considerations were taken into account when Obama settled on Sept. 7.
"One debate of many that's on one channel of many was not enough of a reason" to pick another date, Carney said.
Carney said that Obama had chosen to speak directly to Congress in hopes that members had been chastened and softened after hearing from angry constituents over the August break."

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2: :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
BIG PLAN. Get this azzhole out of office. We got another year of this horse pooooooooooooooo :fury:

Seriously looks to me like he's postured the whole thing to get prime time viewing......

1 million jobs. Ok lets see this. It's gonna fall flat on it's face. No more spending.

Raven 08-31-2011 12:45 PM

Hey QUIET down will YA
 
your gonna spoil his 4 year vacation....:fury:

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:02 PM

hey

Raven 08-31-2011 02:04 PM

coincidental ?

yeah tell me another one

RIROCKHOUND 08-31-2011 02:19 PM

And there is a major hurdle right there.

the F-You mentality. I won't listen to a word he says.Obama can't be right, EVER... lets just stick our fingers in our ears and yell la-la-la-la for 425 days......

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:39 PM

I will listen to anything anyone has to say but if I don't like you I'll still call you a turd

:hee:

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:41 PM

I think TDF took a smiley out of there

:devil2: :cens::lm:

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:43 PM

Brian you don't agree he's posturing this as a political move to make himself look better? Why else would you spot prime time? It's a free tool for him?

Cept it probably cost you and me $500k a minute :wall:

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:45 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if Mr Boner refused his request to speak :hee:

Could he do that?

The Dad Fisherman 08-31-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 884069)
I think TDF took a smiley out of there

:devil2: :cens::lm:


Yeah....it wouldn't show one of them....it just showed the code : rotfl2:....so I fixed it.

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 02:56 PM

This board has always done that if you put too many of the same in-line with each other. Must have to call Geeksquad to get that fixed :D

RIROCKHOUND 08-31-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 884071)
Brian you don't agree he's posturing this as a political move to make himself look better? Why else would you spot prime time? It's a free tool for him?

Cept it probably cost you and me $500k a minute :wall:

Or, Prime time so more american's can be home to watch it.

but yes, part of it is probably political, of course

The Dad Fisherman 08-31-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 884074)
This board has always done that if you put too many of the same in-line with each other. Must have to call Geeksquad to get that fixed :D

You're only allowed 15 smileys....you had 16...I guess you're just a Happy Go-Lucky kinda guy :hihi:

UserRemoved1 08-31-2011 04:10 PM

He said NO

PICKET: Boehner to Obama on joint session date: No - Washington Times

I love it :hee:

"extraordinary event" LOL

buckman 08-31-2011 05:03 PM

This is now scheduled to occur during the Republican debate. What are the chances??
He will use the teleprompter to trash Republicans. Count on it.

Raven 08-31-2011 06:08 PM

i export smileys to photobucket
hosted off site

ecduzitgood 08-31-2011 11:45 PM

Speech moved to the 8th. Teleprompter must be out for repairs.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Raven 09-01-2011 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 884072)
Wouldn't it be funny if Mr Boner refused his request to speak :hee:

Could he do that?

he did one better and had the speech night modified

good call there..... Bugger

scottw 09-01-2011 06:41 AM

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I hope he announces a massive investment in Green Jobs :rotf2:

Solyndra to Declare Bankruptcy
President Obama touted the facility only a year ago

Solyndra was touted by the Obama administration as a prime example of how green technology could deliver jobs. The President visited the facility in May of last year and said "it is just a testament to American ingenuity and dynamism and the fact that we continue to have the best universities in the world, the best technology in the world, and most importantly the best workers in the world. And you guys all represent that. "

Solyndra, a Fremont-based solar panel manufacturer that flared then sputtered, abruptly ceased operations on Wednesday and immediately laid off all 1,100 of its workers.

The shutdown marks a high-profile collapse of a company that received more than $1.6 billion in federal and private funding in recent years.

"This was an unexpected outcome and is most unfortunate," Brian Harrison, Solyndra's president and chief executive, said.


Solyndra workers who were laid off on Wednesday were dismissed without layoff packages.

"They are getting no severance," said Dave Miller, a Solyndra spokesman. "They are getting nothing."

"It's devastating," Campbell resident Matthew Henry said. "There was no compassion."

OBAMA!!! WHERE ARE YOU????....oops...sorry to disturb your vacation

UserRemoved 09-01-2011 06:48 AM

Come help me O'bama

Nahhh he's too busy with his friend boner.

He's off vacation til Saturday

Partisan fight leads Obama to move date of speech - Glenn Thrush and Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

justplugit 09-01-2011 07:46 AM

I'll watch the debate.

I can always read the 2 or 2000 page job plan later, whenever he
decides to deliver it. :hihi:

RIROCKHOUND 09-01-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saltys (Post 884194)

If I were him, I would have said Mr. Speaker, I'm here to talk about jobs and the econmy, w/ all due respect, #^&#^&#^&#^& you.

Bill L 09-01-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

If I were him, I would have said Mr. Speaker, NOW THAT MY VACATIONS OVER AND I'M FINALLY here to talk about jobs and the econmy, w/ all due respect, #^&#^&#^&#^& you.
Fixed it

RIROCKHOUND 09-01-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill L (Post 884206)
If I were him, I would have said Mr. Speaker, NOW THAT MY VACATIONS OVER, CONGRESS IS BACK IN SESSION AND I'M FINALLY here to talk about jobs and the econmy, w/ all due respect, #^&#^&#^&#^& you.

fixed it again

I didn't say he shouldn'd have done 'the plan' a month ago...

JohnR 09-01-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 884208)
fixed it again

I didn't say he shouldn'd have done 'the plan' a month ago...


Oak - I wish you were the President. I don't always agree with you but I think you may be more-smarters-like.

RIROCKHOUND 09-01-2011 10:02 AM

Please. I don't wish that on my worst enemy, let alone a friend!

1. I have another, what, 15 years to be old enough anyway?

2. ScottW and Jim in CT might officially renounce citizenship and move to ???

3. I'd have to hire Spence as official spin master

Jim in CT 09-01-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 884192)
I hope he announces a massive investment in Green Jobs :rotf2:

Solyndra to Declare Bankruptcy
President Obama touted the facility only a year ago

This is a great post!!

In May 2011, Obama touted this company as one of the brilliant firms that would lead the way to green jobs, and just in May, Obama gave them a $500 million loan. 3 months later, and they are bankrupt. How did they burn through that $500 million in 3 months, did they have a bonfire? I hope they used solar panels to start the fire, and not fossil fuel...

And yet another example that everything Obama touches, EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES, turns to vomit. He can't get one right by accident, I have never seen his level of incompetence anywhere, ever. If Josef Stalin and Barney Fife conceived a child, it would be Obama.

God get me through one more year...one more year...

I swear liberals believe that green energy is available, it's just that no one wants to pursue it. The fact is, no one can make it work, not in a cost-effective way. No one wants to pay $45,000 for a car that you have to re-charge before you get to the end of your driveway. No one can afford $35,000 for solar panels on their house.

I want to get off fossil fuels. But the fact is, we're nowhere near achieving it. The first person to achieve it will become a trillionaire, and that's all the incentive anyone needs. We will be using oil for a long, long time.

justplugit 09-01-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 884192)
I hope he announces a massive investment in Green Jobs :rotf2:

Prolly be another $80 Billion "Green Economy"stimulus like the last fiasco
that created or SAVED 225,000 jobs at a cost of $335,000 per job.

Solar and green energy will happen and be cost affective at some point, but right now it's pie in
the sky and for the forseeable future we need fossil fuels.

JohnR 09-01-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 884225)
Please. I don't wish that on my worst enemy, let alone a friend!

1. I have another, what, 15 years to be old enough anyway?

2. ScottW and Jim in CT might officially renounce citizenship and move to ???

3. I'd have to hire Spence as official spin master

1 - You're getting pretty close enough to be old enough.

2 - They will emigrate to the Federal Republic of Texas

3 - Leave Robert Gibbs alone in his retirement :rotf2: .

RIROCKHOUND 09-01-2011 02:00 PM

I thought it was 40 or 45 for some reason. Ok, so 3 more years...

scottw 09-01-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 884217)
Oak - I wish you were the President..

yeah...Lincoln Chafee could be his Vice-President...that would be GREAT :biglaugh:

scottw 09-01-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 884249)
Prolly be another $80 Billion "Green Economy"stimulus like the last fiasco
that created or SAVED 225,000 jobs at a cost of $335,000 per job.

yup....

A solar energy company that intends to file for bankruptcy received $535 million in backing from the federal government and has a cozy history with Democrats and the Obama administration, campaign finance records show.

Shareholders and executives of Solyndra, a green energy company producing solar panels, fundraised for and donated to the Obama administration to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Solyndra also spent $550,000 lobbying Congress in 2010. Between 2008 and 2011, the company spent more than $1 million lobbying for bills including the “American Clean Energy Leadership Act of 2009″ and the “Solar Manufacturing Jobs Creation Act.”

Despite Solyndra’s recent bankruptcy announcement, the Department of Energy and the White House insist the investment was not in vain.

The project that we supported succeeded,” a spokesman for the Department of Energy told The New York Times. “The facility was producing the product it said it would produce, and consumers were buying the product,” he said. “The company struggled because the market has changed dramatically.”

HUH?

UserRemoved1 09-01-2011 03:21 PM

We build the machines....China makes the panels with our machines....

MUCHO cheaper. We have nobody to built solar panels anymore.

This is #2 right beside the recent failure of Evergreen.

China sucks.

spence 09-01-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 884283)
“The facility was producing the product it said it would produce, and consumers were buying the product,” he said. “The company struggled because the market has changed dramatically.”

HUH?

Huh? The problem was that the company couldn't compete because the Chinese Government is subsidizing domestic production to keep the market saturated with cheaper product.

The problem here is just like when a company tries to incubate a new technology. They usually all fail at first, but if kept afloat some will become strong enough to swim on their own. Most of this will happen naturally in the market, but what about strategic industries?

Cutting taxes isn't the solution...we need education and focused incentive.

-spence

UserRemoved1 09-01-2011 06:12 PM

What we NEED is a president that will unite the people for a common cause not this schlep whose been pandering to his buddies, driving people apart, and taking vacation every 3rd day from last Thursday.

All while he spends this country into Depression.

spence 09-01-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 884335)
What we NEED is a president that will unite the people for a common cause not this schlep whose been pandering to his buddies, driving people apart, and taking vacation every 3rd day from last Thursday.

All while he spends this country into Depression.

Are you talking about Bush?

-spence

scottw 09-01-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 884290)
Huh? The problem was that the company couldn't compete because the Chinese Government -spence

it's Bush...it's the Chinese...it's Bad Luck...it's earthquakes, tsunamis and hurricanes...it's "Typical White People", it's the Tea Party.....Global Warming....Global Cooling....Sarah Palin....those RELIGEOUS(except Muslim radicals) people....the rich(except the ones that donate to and support Obama but don't pay their taxes).........it's always someone or something else and it's getting really...really tiresome

are Chinese Government subsidies responsible for these too?

"Last week Obama toured to much fanfare a Johnson Controls plant in Michigan where $300 million in conservation grants produced 150 jobs — at a cost of $2 million per position."

Evergreen Solar Inc is a "Massachusetts company that the White House once said 'is hoping to hire 90 to 100 people' thanks to stimulus money has $485.6 million in debt. Evergreen closed a factory in March, reports the Boston Herald, and cut 800 jobs. A Michigan plant is to be shut down, as well, causing the loss of even more jobs."

"Green Vehicles of Salinas, Calif., which has burned through more than $500,000 in money 'invested' by the city, folded last month without having produced anything of significance. The company promised it would employ about 70 and pay back Salinas taxpayers with $700,000 a year in city taxes."

In Seattle, "a $20 million federal grant for home weatherization has, according to KOMO news, retrofitted only three houses and created 14 jobs in more than a year."

Green Bus Biz Fails: Government Planners Pick a Loser … and Stick With It By Tom Gantert | Aug. 1, 2011

Fisher CoachWorks was a Michigan hybrid vehicle “green” start-up company that the state hoped to claim as one of the “success stories” for the state’s premier economic development program. Former Gov. Jennifer Granholm championed the company in a September 2009 news release, saying it was part of Michigan’s “new energy” economy. Some estimates showed that it would create 530-plus jobs.

Instead, the Michigan Economic Development Corporation lost taxpayers $1.6 million on the deal, but not until after an organization-wide effort to save the company.

Six months after the governor publicly praised Fisher, a Feb. 15, 2010, MEDC memo stated that Fisher CoachWorks had failed to meet two performance “milestones” as part of its $2.6 million total loan agreement with the state. The memo asserted that if the MEDC didn’t give Fisher CoachWorks the $1 million remaining from the initial loan deal and then allow it to change its benchmarks, then “the company will most probably be dissolved.”

On March 15, 2010, Fisher sent an email to the MEDC notifying it of plans to shut down and lay off all of their employees. The announcement that the company was going down set off a flurry of MEDC activity to try to find the company some money.

Leslie Smith, then MEDC’s director of business acceleration, wrote in a March 29, 2010, email, “I’m pulling together all of the forces of MEDC” to help find a way to salvage Fisher CoachWorks.

According to one staff email dated April 9, 2010, the MEDC tried to convince the Flint Mass Transit Authority to give $2.2 million of its federal stimulus “development” money to Fisher CoachWorks.

there are more too :uhuh:


wait...forgot Europe

Obama blames Europe for his Green Jobs failure
byConn Carroll Senior Editorial Writer
Follow on Twitter:@conncarroll

President Obama is blaming cuts in European solar power subsidies for his administration's half-a-billion dollar bad bet on a failed green collar California firm.

What????...I thought it was the Chinese Government Subsidies that were to blame...it's the lack of European Government Subsidies now....he should just BLAME THE WORLD

scottw 09-01-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 884290)
Huh? The problem was that the company couldn't compete because the Chinese Government
-spence

maybe this was the problem:uhuh:

The Government Accountability Office would later single out the Solyndra deal as an example of the government’s failing to fully vet such arrangements before approving the loan guarantees. With all those stimulus dollars burning a hole in its pocket, the Obama administration was overeager to get them spent. “If you don’t have really strong processes in place, and if you’re under pressure to get a lot of these dollars allocated, you can make unproductive decisions and ones that ultimately put taxpayers’ dollars at risk,” GAO analyst Franklin Rusco said. In fact, the administration announced its commitment to the loan guarantees before the required outside reviews were even in hand.

Raven 09-02-2011 03:48 AM

Government offices should be the first to go solar
at least in the sunnier states in the south west...

i think the plan will be to play more golf with Boner

UserRemoved1 09-02-2011 03:51 AM

Bush? That's the best spin you could come up with? :smash:

I'm disappointed Spence. I would have thought you could have done better.

I'd love to see Bush finish out the remainder of this schlep's time. Hell I'd love to see Minny Mouse do it too! Anyone is better than this jwad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 884364)
Are you talking about Bush?

-spence



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