Fuel costs
 

Hope and Change: Gas Prices Have Gone Up 67 Percent Since Obama Became President | The Weekly Standard

Something to think about this Nov :uhuh:

This is the cost here and now where I live:

Outrageous! I'm approximately .90 cents cheaper.....

I CANT wait for Nov

What about marine diesel down there?
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Why? What will the next (or can this) president do to directly reduce costs of gas/diesel at the pump?

For the record. these prices suck. But when it was 3.50 under Bush all we heard was the president didn't have any control over the price of gas!

boating is going to be interesting with these fuel prices. Almost glad I didn't upgrade to the 23 footer

That's because Bush never got blamed for anything:rotf2:

Talking point to media..."What can the President do about gas prices? Not much"
Sheeple

I for one won't be doing the 100 gallon trips down past the golf balls this year to chase June tuna. Nor Wildcat cod trips.

The problem here is there really is only one supplier, and can charge what he wants. He as been sued several times but he wins each time. (you cannot prove any collusion among stations...but it goes on, they are all the same.) As to diesel, We now have a choice...there is a guy now who is competing with local supplier. He has a number of trucks. (no big storage facility) He brings high quality diesel fuel from Boston. The marine stuff is excellent fuel. Much better than the bottom of the the barge discount sludge the local guy sells here. (at top dollar) (Dozens of stories about guys who bought fuel here and had major problems)
You can see it in your filters...my filters last all season now and look great. I use to change them every 50 hours!
I generally get it right from the truck right to my boat. I meet the truck at a certain spot. He texts me where he is going to be and I meet him. He has all the fisherman on his phone and he shotguns a text to all of them. It works great, he is normally within a penny of falmouth fuel. Which is .80-1.30 less than the local guy. (In the beginning he was even cheaper than that and delivered right to your slip but the town stopped that and now he maintains cost with the mainland.) If you are worried about the shark tourny...look for the fuel truck parked down by the opening to OB harbor at 5:00 or so, you will see the boats start lining up. That is the fuel you want...or go to Falmouth. That is what I recommend for now. I think next year there could be a new stationary fueling option in OB, serving up quality gas and marine diesel. We are working on it.

Also, the MV commission are a bunch of environmental whaco's and actually do not want you to burn gas or fuel. They want higher prices to discourage you. They will come right out and tell you this. So they do nothing. People have proposed opening new gas stations that provided inexpensive fuel (using other providers) and they deny the permit as it will cause "traffic jams" and hardship against existing stations. REALLY!!

I agree at these prices they are expecting this year, I am actually trying to get a slip so I can still enjoy the boat, some what. Or I am going to get a big tarp and a mast and turn her into a sailboat :D

Using the "can't wait for November" logic we need to update the Constitution and get Clinton back in there ASAP. I want some $1.00 gas.

Seriously though, graphs over time are interesting to look at. Not particularly helpful in assigning blame or exempting any president if that's the goal. If you wanted to make a leap of blaming some one - both Obama and Bush are on the hook because they are/were the MIC while prices have gone up.

Cliff's Notes for the ADD crowd - Adjusted for inflation, gas prices have steadily declined since the 1920's (not counting occasional spikes). Since the turn of the century, they have steadily marched upwards, even adjusted for inflation. 2 presidents and almost 3 terms of office haven't really changed that.

Solutions as it relates to fishing? Hope your local fishery stays hot and/or learn it well so you don't have to travel as far...

How High Gas Prices Have Been Over the Years

Charting the Dramatic Gas Price Rise of the Past Decade

Good post. Thanks for the links. With the obvious political motivation behind its creation, this entire thread belongs in the caves of the Political Section.

Your ears must have been plugged because all I heard was that Bush was an oil baron, Halliburton and Cheney were profiting from the high gas prices, we invaded Iraq to steal their oil........

for the record, I made a point to note the gas price when O took office, I was paying $1.75

I heard the same thing.
The problem is, the folks defending Bush, are now the same ones blaming Obama. You can't have it both ways....

Ummm. It was $1.75!!!

How about the summer of 2008?

I was pissed at Bush too. Now if in 5 months you want to compare O to GWB then we can.

as much as i'm not a obama fan its not him, its the traders on wallstreet lining there pockets, speculation. thats it. right now demand is down, oil reserves up , and we still have high prices because of all the crap in the middle east. traders use it as a excuse and speculate a problem driveing up crude prices. And for the record most traders trading energy love the high prices.
my brother works for a high end firm in nyc.....i constantly bitch to him about it.

If you think the President has nothing to do with gas prices wait to you see it drop as November nears. Happened last time and will happen again. If Obama gets in we will top $5.00.

Watching the futures market on gas,todays price is roughly 3.28 a gallon with state taxes,shipping and gas station profits there is usually a 60-80 cent addition to the futures price. Gas prices right now should be around 3.90-4.00 a gallon. Might not be a bad idea to fuel up and save a few bucks,got gas in Lakeville today at 3.69 a gallon Lets hope the lower price currently is reflecting weak demand at the pump and drives the price of fuel down for the season.

At the rate the gov't is printing money, they'll never be able to drive the prices down. It's pushing the inflation rate so high on everything including gasoline. It's only going to get worse.

Big bo is the smart one with a small center console that gets great gas !!! Smart man :)

Yeah, but I'm not out there chasing the BF like you are Mark.

A lot of people say fuel is the cheapest part of boat ownership.
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Its true.

Not to drag poiitics into it, but Obama has said he wants to see gas prices here the same as they are in Europe, i.e. $10 a gallon or more.

It's not stopping me from going with a larger vessel. Look out fluke!!!

Not to drag politics into it, but no he didn't.
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well, does Obama want the price to reflect the same as Europe or not...............

Says who?
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My question is, Did Obama actually say he wants the price of gas here to reflect the same price as in Europe?

I thought I remembered that he did but not 100% sure......

You mean you remember what the fat stupid drug addled pay for kiddie sex in the DR talking heads tell you.

snopes.com: President Obama on High Gas Prices

Also what flailing AND failing candidates tell you.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ted-raising-g/

No, not what I mean. It was a yes or no question that I was asking about.....glad you chimed in though

Time to offer another fuel alternative. When gas prices skyrocketed in the early 70's the country switched tr uck ing to diesel in about 5 or 6 years. This same process is occurring again now with natural gas (compressed and LNG). You will see nat gas marine engines in the not too near distant future.

Westport Innovations is the global leader in this technology. Regardless of which OEM LNG nat gas engine you buy it will have Westport technology likely through at least 2018 (massive patent protfolio).

WPRT closed today at $46.90/share.

$3.64 in Whitinsville this AM

That is because most people don't use their boat very much...

Probably because the price of fuel!!!:rotf2:

I would love to see a move to nat gas for vehicles...the problem is it will take some infrastructural built out (convert gasoline stations to carry nat gas). This is just not happening to any great extent. If I was running this would be my major energy platform:
a) move to nat gas NOW for transportation
- immediate national work project built out infrastructure to support this (ie create millions of NEW jobs today!) No handouts, just solid jobs
b) invest heavily in energy R&D (all phases) and provide strong incentives for kids to study math, science and medicine, no incentive for anything else. (probably full tuition deduction with good grades)
c) incentives for auto companies to produce and sell nat gas vehicles.
d) incentives for consumers to trade in gasoline for nat gas vehicles

This will do 5 huge things for this country:

1) Buy us some time...probably at least 100-200 years to fully develop electric vehicles, battery, etc
2) get us off the foreign fuel sources
3) clean burning (somewhat greener)
4) create jobs
5) improve technology for long term


What I want to know how come we don't have anyone running who talks like this?

You guys see this? Amazing technology 300KM for about $1.12. Coming in August.


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I do not know that Obam ahas said that on camera. However, his energy secretary, Mr Chu, said this...

"Somehow,” Chu said, “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”

Steven Chu's Europe gas quote haunts President Obama - Bob King - POLITICO.com

This is our Secretary Of Energy who said this. I cannot imagine who benefits from skyrocketing gas prices, other than folks who own green technology companies. Raising gas prices hurt a lot more folks than they help.

This issue will clobber Obama this summer when we're paying $5 a gallon.