Pelosi- More Taxes
 

Pelosi wants U and I to pay more taxes.... her statement: "I wish they(working people) would make more, so we can tax more."

What do we get for our tax dollars now?

extra gulfstream jets for nancy and her pals.....
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I would pay more taxes for an increase in pay or salary.
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Yea, until you hit AMT............. Government’s way to demotivate and encourage underachievement once you hit a certain number

That's not at all what she said. The media filter you get your news from took her quote out of context because they knew you'd lap it up like a toddler gulping anti-freeze from the fridge.

-spence

she can stuff all her idea's up her wazoo

Amen, amt is extremely painful and fubar
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Spence, what did she say?

Use the Google.
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Nah, not worth my time. I really couldn't care what she says. :doh:

And that is the problem.
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As soon as i heard of her "big Idea" of compromising the constitutional
right of free speech with a bill for an amendment... i see RED

no free speech when it comes to politics.... she is such a fool pfffff

Your right DAVE not even worth listening to

Nah, it's just I heard enuff from her to last two lifetimes. :hihi:

So... it isn't on Fox News front page... was it really a big deal?

So you want to know what she said but then you really can't be bothered and you've heard all you can take from her. Is that about right? :confused:

I think he was more interested in Spence' spin than what Pelosi said.

gulp......I agree with Pelosi...

Addressing the percentage of taxpayers who do not pay any income tax, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said these Americans have “skin in the game” since “they pay payroll taxes,” adding, “I wish they would earn more so they can pay more.”

“Well, you know, they do pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes. And this is a tactic that the other side uses to make it sound as if these people are not paying taxes. They are paying taxes. They do have skin in the game. And I think that that should be respected,” said Pelosi at the Capitol Thursday.

“I wish they would earn more so they can pay more, and that’s what we’re about, the creation of good-paying jobs in our country that contribute to our international competitiveness to keep America number one.”

In 2009, 51 percent of American taxpayers did not owe any income tax. The number reportedly dropped to 45 percent in 2010.

Bingo. :D

So, it didn't need spin then, right?

Thats the crux of the argument. Revenue, under the current tax code was higher in the past b/c the economy was better.... so now, the difference is what to do to make up the difference. Cut everything in sight, raise taxes... OR

Something in between...

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:spin:

We need a better spin emicon.

no, but spence would have added it.

If I misunderstood, my apologies!

No spin necessary, just read the full quote.

-spence

No problem Paul, it's been slow in here and we need a little fun. :)

Nah, just a waste of time. :hihi:

If understanding the debate is wasting time, then we are truly lost.

-spence

Total BS!! Federal Receipts have gone up every year.

What debate, you didn't spin. :chatter

:hs: Absolutely untrue. 2007: 2.5 trillion; 2008: 2.56; 2009: 2.1; 2010: 2.16; 2011: 2.3.

Huh??? 2008 4.7 trillion.....2011 4.85 trillion.

Numbers I posted are federal total direct revenue (that is...tax receipts). Where I wrote billions was meant to be trillions. Your numbers are not federal tax receipts.

Buckman. Curious as to source of numbers...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

good chart. look at the deficit numbers in the far right for the last 3 years. thats insane

Also, interesting that the projected deficit over all of the next five years are a small percenter of gdp than 1982-1988. I wonder if those numbers are based on extension or ending of Bush tax cuts. Outlays as a percent of gdp are right in line with those Reagan years too.

Not comparing them to now, but how about 1943? I had no idea how much we were spending during the war.

I will find it for you. The figure is based on all revenue. Not on just
tax revenue.

Your numbers aren't federal receipts/revenues. They also aren't "all revenue" for the federal government. The revenue of the federal government is what is in the data table. Whatever the numbers you posted are, they have mislead you. No matter how it is spun, federal tax rates are pretty much as low as they have been in 60 or 70 years. As a result of the recession, fed revenues dropped.

Where did you get the quote from anyways? It seems like it has been altered?

You are right. My numbers are total government revenue which includes state and local. All the same to me.

Here is the site.
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

Not sure how you come up with the 60/70 year thing though

If boobs were brains Pelosi would belong to MENSA.

This graph shows taxes relative to gdp, which is one of the clearest ways to compare year to year, decade to decade. Blue is fed tax, red state, green business. There are many ways it can be compared, from total tax burden to effective rates. They all come out pretty much the same. Any honest comparison shows that taxes are effectively on the low end of where they have been since 1940. The gdp graph can't give you specific tax rates though. For example, taxes are lower now than they were a couple years ago, but as a percent of gdp, they are a slightly higher percent due to a decrease in gdp from the recession. This website has a whole pile of graphs, which give a pretty good overview of past values and projections of the near future. The analysis of the data is somewhat biased though, and makes a bunch of assumptions that may or may not be true.
THE HISTORY OF TAXES: Here's How High Today's Rates Really Are - Business Insider