Lay Offs
 

In the coming days thousands will be laid off....I wish U all well

Really? Thousands?

Amusing how every time someone says this it always seems that I'm hiring.

Like right now filling another 20 jobs!

I opened 15 reqs today for DoD work

I think he's referring to Murray Coal, the company that just lost a massive lawsuit over a mine collapse (including killing an inspector).
Same clown who made people take an unpaid day off to attend a rally.

Amazing how some people run their businesses, and no wonder they fail. Of course he's blaming the layoffs on the election of Obama, which I'm sure they'll be lining up for illegal labor practices lawsuits over.

Actually Boeing announced lay offs, there were a number of large companies announced lay offs.

Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night | FreedomWorks

Not saying others aren't hiring. These are what was reported due to the cause and affect because of The election and pending tax increases etc.

Not just the evil coal guy.
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Boeing as a company is doing quite well. They announced layoffs in the defense group as defense spending is slowing and they need to reduce costs to maintain a competitive posture.

This has nothing to do with Obama I'm sorry to say.

It's funny, juxtapose business as usual with a few gung ho execs who think they're Sean Hannity and suddenly the sky is falling.

I'd suggest getting your business info from a good site like seekingalpha.com rather than a partisan think tank.

-spence

The problem with that list is the fact that planning layoffs on that scale don't happen overnight. There's more reasons to lay people off than just a tax or anything else of that matter.

Welch Allyn has been planning global restructing.
Welch Allyn Initiates Global Restructuring, Including Layoffs | Qmed
Most workers if "worth it" were probably offered move or be laid off.

Dana mentioned potentially laying people off, but nothing has happened (check the PR newswires, nothing to be found about layoffs).

Stryker layoffs have been going on long before Obamacare and moving the jobs offshore.

Boston Scientific is closing its Boston location and moving it to Marlboro and China, pretty well known.

etc. etc. etc.

Darden Restaraunts, mostly part time workers, already discussed. We'll skip the Olive Garden and Red Lobster serving trash on a plate discussion. :hihi:

Its easy to throw blame around when you don't bother to actually dig for relevant info.

Btw, MA legislature and coupe devall are offering tax breaks for companies that have x number of employees living in the state. I'm sure BS took that into consideration.

Didn't throw blame and I qualified the statement just posting info on who was laying off. The article stated it had to do with the election. I also said others may be hiring. I am certain the news source is right of center. If what they put out on MSNBC is taken for gospel why not this source somewhere in the middle is the whole truth
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It's funny...you seem to have a thing for Hannity, Rush etc....the only difference between them and you is the political/idealogical turf that you defend.....and, more people are willing to listen to them banter:uhuh::)

there probably won't be any layoffs....Obama's got it all under control now :uhuh:

I was referring to the article laying blame, but you posted it.
And no news media outlet is to be trusted, read actual press releases from companies.

Not sure how you could label that site as "somewhere in the middle" considering everyone is either an ex political aid (R) or ex politician (R).

Never doubted it for a minute
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Funny, just Thursday morning I was presenting to the CEO and executive staff of a precision manufacturing company about how the medical device tax would end up pushing cost pressure down the supply chain.

-spence

Lay offs will have a domino effect...not only big business...there will be carpenters..plumbers.. electricians...machinist..restaurant staff and others...U just may see unemployment up around 9% after years end

applebees has notified its workers that there will be no more 40 hr work week after the 1st of the year...will be under 30 hrs. to beat the healthcare bill...cheaper to pay the fine

maybe Spence should explain Obamanomics to Applebee's :)

Many retail stores do this already. It's no suprise that they would be kickin it down to under the minimum, I'm actually suprised they had 40 hour employees.

X2 It would be odd if they were having their managers work under 40 hours? In general retail management is a bit ridiculous on the hours
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I was talking with my neighbor earlier today.
He works for one of the biggest environmental clean up companies in the country.
They are laying off 20% before Jan (thousands getting laid off)
He rattled off a list of other big national companies he knows personally doing the same and others that will be cutting hours in half to avoid paying benefits.
Scott Brown stopped by my house today also.
He was in a rush but I had a quick conversation with him.
In his own words "We are screwed"
He said the real unemployment rate is 14% and we will see it in the 20s
By the way, Scott was going around with his truck collecting signs, I'll guarantee Granny Warren would never be see doing manual labor like removing campaign signs from peoples lawns !

shhhhh...noone is getting laid off.....that's a myth started by Hannity and Limbaugh the porn merchant.....

Brown has lot's of free time, he should have picked up both his and Warren's signs after losing to that ___....oooops...sorry...that's Senator ___ Liawatha....wait...that's all wrong and it will no doubt inflame Paul.....Senator Kennedy in drag? funny...does she drinK???....oh no, we've already got another new Kennedy who claims he understands the middle class better than the guy that he ran against who served(s) in the Marines and has actually spent some time in the middle class.....so confusing

"my peepaw had high cheekbones like all of the indians do" or whatever she said... makes me laugh everytime I hear the cut

I'd be really happy if the Raiders won a game or two more by the end of the season :)


I know a lot of people at all levels of the restaurant industry and the all work many more than 40 hours a week, actually that's true for most people that I know...

part time is the new full time under Obama...they did this in France to increase employment%..limited the number of hours that you could work, the rationalization was that if you limit the number of hours for a workers by law the businesses would have to hire more workers to fill those hours...BRILLIANT@!@!!

The 35-hour working week is a measure adopted first in France, in February 2000, under Prime Minister Lionel Jospin's Plural Left government; it was pushed by Minister of Labour Martine Aubry. The previous legal duration of the working week was 39 hours, which had been established by François Mitterrand, also a member of the Socialist Party. The 35-hour working week was already in the Socialist Party's 1981 electoral program, titled 110 Propositions for France.

Rationale: The main stated objectives of the law were twofold:

To reduce unemployment and yield a better division of labor, in a context where some people work long hours while some others are unemployed. A 10.2% decrease in the hours extracted from each worker would, theoretically, require firms to hire correspondingly more workers, a remedy for unemployment.

French unemployment hits 13-year high


PARIS | Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:15am EDT

PARIS (Reuters) - France's unemployment rate rose to its highest level in 13 years in the second quarter, official data showed on Thursday, in a setback to the Socialist government, which was elected on a pledge to bring down the jobless rate.

The rise in unemployment to 10.2 percent, measured according to the International Labour Organisation's (ILO) criteria, comes as the euro zone's second-largest economy has posted three consecutive quarters of zero growth.

Many economists predict unemployment, which stood at 10.0 percent in the first three months of the year, will continue to rise as companies seek to rebuild margins.

A number of French companies have recently announced plans to layoff workers, including retailer Carrefour (CARR.PA) and car maker Peugeot (PEUP.PA).

it's currently 10.8% and appears to be rising I'm thinking mandated 28 hours per week work weeks should provide plenty of hours for those unemployed to get employed with the freed up hours from the people that are currently hogging all of the hours and remedy the situation in no time.....:)

Scott indicated Kerry will be getting the nod for Hilary's old job since her being thrown under the bus.
Scott will be running for his seat.

He said is was running for Horseface's seat in the special election?

So first Scott Brown gives people the signs and then wants them back, I would expect that of Warren but not Brown.
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I have a better idea....you lost...get out....I'm so sick of these entrenched politicians( I know that his stay was brief)...but these guys get a taste and suddnely they have to go back to Washington asap, he spent a ton of other people's dough and lost, someone else's turn....beat it....RI has me completely jaundiced, the Repubs had really solid individuals running against Cicciline and Whitehouse and others, people with character and accomplishment and RI chose to send the lying weasles back to Washington....wasn't really close....so disappointing...Scott Brown will get crushed running against whoever they put up to replace Kerry, it's Mass., his win was a freak occurance.....does Kerry have any kids that can inherit the seat?

once Coupe Deval gets the nod for AG, someone has to fill that office. Maybe Brown should think about that

You mean doing the only job he can get in MA.

Keep it classy Ronnie!

At least one of our customers have already come out in the press that they will not be openining any more facilities for the forseeable future as a result of the tax on med devices. Ultimately this will cause a loss of jobs as they improve effiency on the lines they make now and can make the same amount of product with less people. No expansion means flat labor force at best. I also forsee less med devices being needed as demand for procedures drops. (yes, in English that means as healtcare is RATIONED) This will push all the way though the supply chain in reduced demand for materials, tooling, shipping, energy, essentially no one is safe unless they are employed by government.

The flakey, speed demon Lt. Governor will.

That's all we need to have Canal Tim in the state house.
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100 mph into the parking lot

Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic.

Interesting to see that more Republican Governors have held office in MA than Democratic (here is a list)

Winthrop M. Crane January 4, 1900 – January 8, 1903 Republican
John L. Bates January 8, 1903 – January 5, 1905 Republican
William Lewis Douglas January 5, 1905 – January 4, 1906 Democratic
Curtis Guild, Jr. January 4, 1906 – January 7, 1909 Republican
Ebenezer Draper January 7, 1909 – January 5, 1911 Republican
Eugene Foss January 5, 1911 – January 8, 1914 Democratic
David I. Walsh January 8, 1914 – January 6, 1916 Democratic
Samuel W. McCall January 6, 1916 – January 2, 1919 Republican
Calvin Coolidge January 2, 1919 – January 6, 1921 Republican
Channing H. Cox January 6, 1921 – January 8, 1925 Republican
Alvan T. Fuller January 8, 1925 – January 3, 1929 Republican
Frank G. Allen January 3, 1929 – January 8, 1931 Republican
Joseph B. Ely January 8, 1931 – January 3, 1935 Democratic
James Michael Curley January 3, 1935 – January 7, 1937 Democratic
Charles F. Hurley January 7, 1937 – January 5, 1939 Democratic
Leverett Saltonstall January 5, 1939 – January 3, 1945 Republican
Maurice J. Tobin January 3, 1945 – January 2, 1947 Democratic
Robert F. Bradford January 2, 1947 – January 6, 1949 Republican
Paul A. Dever January 6, 1949 – January 8, 1953 Democratic
Christian Herter January 8, 1953 – January 3, 1957 Republican
Foster Furcolo January 3, 1957 – January 5, 1961 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 5, 1961 – January 3, 1963 Republican
Endicott Peabody January 3, 1963 – January 7, 1965 Democratic
John A. Volpe January 7, 1965 – January 22, 1969 Republican
Francis W. Sargent January 22, 1969 – January 2, 1975 Republican
Michael Dukakis January 2, 1975 – January 4, 1979 Democratic
Edward J. King January 4, 1979 – January 6, 1983 Democratic
Michael Dukakis January 6, 1983 – January 3, 1991 Democratic
William Weld January 3, 1991 – July 29, 1997 Republican
Paul Cellucci July 29, 1997 – April 10, 2001 Republican
Jane Swift April 10, 2001 – January 2, 2003 Republican
Mitt Romney January 2, 2003 – January 4, 2007 Republican
Deval Patrick January 4, 2007 – Present Democratic

[QUOTE=Piscator;969053]Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic. QUOTE


so you're saying he's got a shot? "historically speaking"

Massachusetts

Senators

Sen. John Kerry [D]
Sen. Scott Brown [R].....eeeeeeerrrrr...Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D)

Representatives

1st District
Rep. John Olver [D]
2nd District
Rep. Richard Neal [D]
3rd District
Rep. James “Jim” McGovern [D]
4th District
Rep. Barney Frank [D]..... Some Kennedy (D)
5th District Rep.
Niki Tsongas [D]
6th District
Rep. John Tierney [D]
7th District
Rep. Edward “Ed” Markey [D]
8th District
Rep. Michael Capuano [D]
9th District
Rep. Stephen Lynch [D]
10th District
Rep. William Keating [D]

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Improved worker productivity is a fact of life, if your business isn't looking to get more from existing investments they won't be alive for long.

With the disproportionate amount of health care that seniors consume the need for medical devices would logically rise in conjunction with retiring baby boomers. The amount of innovation driven demand suggests increased R&D to take advantage of this demographic shift which is supported by industry observations.

I would agree that increased regulatory pressure will stress the supply chain as OEM's have been quick to push liabilities downstream, but this also brings opportunity for innovation which has tangental benefits to other supporting industries. Many precision manufacturing companies are doing quite well I might add.

If the med device tax is implemented suddenly I could it see it causing lost some job loss for companies who aren't managing their cash flow well. Longer term though I think there will be tremendous opportunities for those positioned to efficiently capture share in expanding markets...especially internationally.

-spence

[QUOTE=scottw;969059]Yes, I'd say he has a shot. Massachusetts is a wierd place when it comes to Politics
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kerry's would be up for re-election in 2014, I'm not sure anyone would want to serve as an interim senator twice

Spence..have you ever actually owned or run a business?...because I read this from you which is little more than hypothetical musing, waxing poetic about how government intrusion and taxation will actually benefit a company and what might occur due to this or that to justify a tax that, from what I read, people that are actually running these businesses affected insist it will have a serious negative effect....as pointed out....sounds like the same crap that we heard about Solyndra and the like.....they were going to capture share in expanding markets too, need would logically rise and on and on...and the government was giving them a ton of dough and they weren't being burdened with a large excise tax....




"Even if the tax cannot be totally undone, it's hoped within the industry that some of its most onerous provisions could be changed. One goal, for example, is to exempt start-ups from the tax for a certain period of time.

That said, some of the staunchest opponents of the tax remain hopeful that it will be repealed, citing support from Democrats in the House and the Senate. Even liberal U.S. Senator-elect Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), mindful of medical device employment in Massachusetts, is opposed to the tax. Senior Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry has also expressed concern about the tax. Even if the Senate can muster enough votes to support a House-initiated repeal, it's doubtful that Congress could overcome a presidential veto.

Widespread cutbacks have already begun at some major medical device makers. Some are citing the new excise tax as the cause. Others are citing slowing demand coupled with growing pressures to reduce costs of medical devices. It will be interesting to see if jobs are reinstated if the device tax is fundamentally revised."

.............

this is an arbitrary tax that was dreamed up by the authors of Obamacare to try to help fund it because they felt the manufacturers were an easy target ...and you strain to explain that the companies being whacked by the tax will probably benefit .....unbelieveable

[QUOTE=Piscator;969067]recent historical trends do not bode well :)

They put Tierney back in office Who has definitely had some sort of a role in an illegal gambling ring. I don't care who you are, your wife has an additional $240,000 hanging around you know about it.

Then there is the woman from Athol who got voted back into the house even though she accused her competitor of selling cocaine,fraudulently.

Not to mention Liawatha. Putting that woman in the Senate is purely moronic. She is a proven liar And definitely difficult to stomach.

Aside from that, How many Massachusetts speakers in a row now Have wound up in prison? Common thread They all have D'
S next to their name.

The best one nation wide by far However Is Jesse Jackson Junior Getting elected into office After it was proven he tried to buy Barack Obama's seat in the Senate from Rod Blagojevich
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and wasn't he re-elected while in drug rehab?


here is how the republican party needs to moderate in order to re-establish itself given the climate and trends of the electorate in the next go around...

abortion.....free, government provided and paid for abortions for anyone desiring one...in addition....the government will pay a $10,000 bonus per abortion(the average cost of one year in a public school) simply calculating the enormous amount of money that Julia's Life will cost the government and taxpayers it makes more sense to reward the person aborting the non-person for making such a wise but probably difficult "choice"

gay marriage....there will be no gender designations for marriage nor any limits going forward, you may marry whomever you wish, however many of whatever you wish and claim whatever you wish as a spouse, that spouse(s) and any offspring created, adopted or otherwise will be entitled to all of the possibilities of the entitlement state...there will be no limits(see France)

edumacation....all education in America will be free, all colleges and universities will provide free education(have you seen the endowments???) to whoever wants education and enrollment will be determined by lottery...there will be no advantages to any individual requesting entry into any institution, all applicants, legal or illegal, will go into a hat and names will be drawn until the seats are filled...all student loans will be forgiven and none will be required going foreward

incomes....all payrolls will be sent directly to the federal government where it will be determined and redistributed evenly based on the individual and whatever you've decided constitutes your family, this will truly be "from each according to their ability to each according to their need"...noone will have an income advantage over another...the government will also place in a "lock box" the amounts calculated to get you through your retirement years which will begin for everyone regardless at age 55....maximum number of hours that any American may work during one 7 day period is 30....you will no longer have any worries over income tax, retirement saving and the like

euthanasia...at whatever point the government decides that you are using more than your share of allotted medical resources as you age you will be required to take a happy ending pill, your family will recieve a bonus caluclated from the tremendous amount of money saved by the government thanks to your early exit...this will be considered the highest form of partiotism..:uhuh: if you refuse, you will be determined to be mentally incompetent and the government will appoint someone to make the decision for you this one will probably be popular until it's your turn

immigration anyone caught entering the country, legally or illegally will immediately be photographed, given a drivers license, EBT card, registered for every available government service and registerd to vote.....no need to bother with the whole becoming a citizen part anymore...it's passe'

marajuana and other fromerly illegal drugs....these will all be covered and provided for under Obamacare for free

So basically you want them to lie just like the last go around?
You sure like losing.

Wrong lying works great look at Obama for example we are all his mushrooms. He feeds us horse crap and keeps us in the dark and people eat it up.

How many 08 promises did he live up to? Maybe 1 passing healthcare reform. But that promise is moot because along with it comes taxes on those that make under 250k and he never put the debates on C Span. Two promise broken while fulfilling another.
Yep the conservatives are lying.
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