AIG suing federal govt over terms of bailout
 

You can't make this stuff up, you just can't.

Rescued by a Bailout, A.I.G. May Sue Its Savior - Yahoo! Finance

3rd go round. The dude is a real (............)!

Holy crap the crazy thing is it sounds like they can win too
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Next people on welfare and food stamps are going to start suing the government because they can't use their EBT at Five-Star restaurants... or can they? It wouldn't be a surprise if they could.

Possible JD, don't know under current law if they could sell the food stamps
discounted to get cash? Like the law would matter anyway. :doh:

when you swim with the sharks.......

Here you go. In NYC, EBT can be used at liquor stores, adult video stores, strip clubs.

Awesome use of taxpayer money.

EXCLUSIVE: Welfare recipients using EBT cards to get cash at strip clubs, X-rated video stores and bars - NYPOST.com

As a middle-class business owner, I pay the highest total tax rates when you take Federal, State, FICA and all the yearly fees into consideration.

Every year I wonder why the hell I work my ass off for essentially the same benefits as the dirtbags that sit at home living on the dole with no desire to get off. Then I remember that I'm a (moderately) respectable human being who cares about contributing to society.

However, being able to use my government dole at the tittybar makes welfare look more and more like the better option.

Right. Because common sense dictates that you want to make welfare as attractive and comfortable as possible. God forbid you provide incentives for people to get off the public dole.

One of my brothers is self-employed. Like me, lived in CT his whole life. Last year, he sat with me to compare taxes between Connecticut and Tennessee. I got all the data and sharpened my pencil. I conservatively estimated that he would save $1400 a month by moving to Tennessee, and that was just taxes - it ignored how much cheaper housing and public universities are down there.

He now has a nice house in a Nashville suburb, and he is saving almost $1800 a month in taxes (personal and business).

CT and MA will be uninhabitable wastelands in 40 years. People will be moving from CT to North Korea for economic opportunity.

I would rather chew tinfoil than raise a family in Tennessee.Two days,three tops and I would be gone for good.Go rockytop.Memphis would be cool for Q and live blues though.

heres an attempt at a civil disucssion. Why?
Tell me (civilly) what Easton MA has to offer that TN does not.
In making my decision to move to TX, the only thing that was keeping me in MA was access to the ocean. Every other aspect in my families life, will and has approved moving to TX.
I can guarantee you TN will have more culture, music, art, food etc. What is MA culture? Harpoon brew fest and clam chowder? What music and food comes from MA? In TN, the people will be warm and welcoming, familiy values are strong. Sports and Academics are huge priorities. there is a great section in the book 50 Things Liberals Love to hate. The chapter is the South. There is a great point that liberals talk about diversity yet how often do you see whites and blacks together? In the South, you'll see it all the time. I agree. In TX, last week we went with the kids to a soul food restaurant, live jazz, audience was the after church blacl crowd mixed with college kids and white families. I've told you guys Glen becks kid is on my sons footbal team, I didnt mention that there are asian, black and one kid who has 2 moms. Yup, all in redneck land. I dont want to turn this into a pro-TX thread, but please tell me why raising a family in TN would be so bad?

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. Elitist as it sounds.

He lives in a gorgeous house in a gorgeous suburb of Nashville. Newer schools. All kinds of healthy activities for the kids. Lots of successful middle and upper-middle class folks. There is more to the south these days than tobacco road and trailer parks.

I cannot imagine what even the governor of CT would say, to convince anyone that CT is $1800-a-month better than TN. Thats a lot of green. Over a lifetime, it's an absolute fortune to the vast majority of folks.

You're entitled to your opinion. And I'm also sure that if most folks in Tennessee spent a month in CT, they would be baffled at why anyone would pay $1800-a-month more, for our entire lives, to live in CT.

The CT population is shrinking, that's a fact. And the people we are losing are precisely the ones that we need to keep.

I also would love to go to Memphis for the 'Memphis in May' BBQ cookoff. The Super Bowl of pork.

No ocean :)
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Some of the best tog fishermen in the world.

And some really good Mexican and Thai food.

One of the big things that would keep me from moving south is the Heat...I don't like the oppresive heat.

I lived in SC for 3 years and dreaded the summer time. I also like 4 seasons.....

for white people!

interested in Dangles response.
read this - can you say this about New England?

Relocating to East Tennessee | Why Move to Tennessee? | Annie Maloney Realtor

Ummm, I'm white. I have no need to have everything authentic the way other cultures originally made it. I guess I'm just simple, but I like what tastes good to me. Give me a Budweiser and some boneless buffalo wings and I'm happy. I also like to try different stuff, but I don't need to try something because someone else thinks it's better.

I'm sure that there are other great places to live, but they aren't better than where I am now for one reason. My family is near me here.

X2! I've lived in other parts of country. This is Home. For me and my family.
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A great answer. I'm in the same boat. But here in New England, we pay dearly to be near our families. I live 2 miles from my parents. It's so awesome that my kids get to have dinner with their grandparents 3 or 4 nights a week. But boy I'd love to convince my parents and brothers to move to the southeast with me, maybe NC or SC or TN. The decrease in cost-of-living is truly life-altering. And it's only going to get more drastic.

Asheville, NC is looking pretty nice too. I spent several months working in Nashville, TN when a customer acquired a technology company there. Very nice place, with alot of culture.

family is a great reason - but not sure it would drive dangles to say - "I would rather chew tinfoil than raise a family in Tennessee.Two days,three tops and I would be gone for good.Go rockytop.Memphis would be cool for Q and live blues though"

thats a comment on TN, not on the proxemity to his family. I want to understand what makes TN a god awful place compared to MA? I lived in Mansfield for 10 yrs as an adult and father. I can't tell you whats so great about it. Its a fine area, ok schools. People are ok, etc. Could i put a sales pitch on why people should move there? Positives - 1hr from ocean, ok. But really, thats it. $4 to park in train lot, $300 a month for a rail pass to Boston, high taxes, school cuts, growing malls and stores, yuck. Do you take scenic drives through Attleboro, Lowell, South boston, Worcester, New Haven etc and say wow, its sure is pretty here! Why do New Englanders, in general, hate the south and southwest? My friends looked at us as if we were from mars when we said we are moving to TX.

Arrogance and elitism. To many New Englanders (especially liberals), moving to the south would be like voluntarily shifting a few spots to the left on the evolutionary poster. You know how tolerant many liberals are of people who believe the opposite what they believe on just about every topic.

Huntin' and bible-thumpin' are not as sophisticated as discussing existentialism over a few hot toddies, or discussing modern art over a few apple-tinis.

ok, Im trying to be civil so dont rile up the masses. Here is the irony. I bet you there are more places to view modern art and have a few apple tinis in a 30 mile radius in certain areas of TN than there are in Easton MA! I guarantee it!

Jim, Easton is a small town. You can't compare Easton to a major city. If you compare Boston to Chattanooga or Nashville, It will probably come out ahead in some categories and behind in some. My sister lives in Alpharetta, GA. She got a beautiful house for less than half of what she would pay up here and it's a great area (she lives in the same development as John Smoltz). There are some great things and some things that I don't care for about that area. It's probably the same in most places.

Oh yeah, Jim. I'm not really so much into modern art that it would influence where I would live. And, I bet Easton has better saltwater fishing in a 35 mile radius than any city in TN.

I personally love the town I live in. thinking that the big cities are all that Mass is about is missing a lot of the picture.

for the most part All the parents in Georgetown get involved, from Sports, school, and scouts. I am 15 minutes from the ocean, 1 hour from the White mountains and an hour and a half from portland Maine....A lot of beautiful areas out in the Berkshires and western MA as well.

Every state has it Good points and Bad points. You just choose what is important to you. How's the Skiing, Snow-Mobiling and Ice fishing in Tennesee?

Not for nothing but I like Easton and it has some unique features for people who care about architecture from some very prominent names.Personally I live next to about 200 acres with a path from my driveway leading directly to it(last week I saw a huge owl devour a rodent at dusk).I am 45 minutes to my boat in Westport where my family comes to play at the beach or go out to eat on the water.I took my mom to lunch in Menemsha this summer and my wife to Block Island for a day.We just returned from a ski trip to Stowe for New Years and I went ice fishing at the Norton res last weekend.For dinner I am within an hour of three great cities in Newport,Boston and Providence all of which have plenty of arts for those who so desire. It is also nice having some professional sports teams to go see on occasion and I have 4 within 40 minutes.I went to New Orleans for jazzfest and it was great but there is no chance I could have spent a 4th day there and I wasn't exactly in a pit.Don't take it personally because I am happy Jimmy,why wouldn't I be? But my guess is Texas would fall into the New Orleans category for me;a fun place to visit.....and Memphis seems like it could offer just as much.I am sure you are happy so you needn't convince me.

you're missing my point. I agree with everything you stated. But almost everything you said, with the exception of the ocean may be available in TN. yet you crapped on it? why? I just dont get it and its a common New England thought process. You guys all get defensive of where you live, I wasnt attacking where you live, but come on. I moved my wife from San Francisco to mansfield. Imagine her culture shock, John - she'd laugh you out of the room if you think Easton has good Mexican and Thai! Look around you, there are many great places to live. I dont understand the strong sentiment towards other parts of the country. Many of us on this thread are music fans, hell there are volumes of songs about TN. people seel to love it. Elvis lived there? Any guy that eats fried pb an dbacon samdwiches is ok in my book. The only MA song I know is Dirty Water!
HAVE AN OPEN MIND. This is a great country with some wonderful places. I just dont get the disgust.

OK maybe you didn't read it all but more than half those things are NOT available in Tennessee.I would not live there under any circumstances and I have never even been there. But something tells me they could teach me something about smoking meat and not the way Fishbones does either.Maybe it is the hillbilly go #^&#^&#^&#^& your sister stereotype or the way I would like to slap Jimmy Houston as much as Charlie Moore.

Just about every place in the country is beautiful and has its special places. You just have to make the best of where you live and take advantage of what it has to offer. I've been all over (mostly traveling for work) and lived in a few places outside of Mass. There is give and take everywhere you go. I love the old school look and feel of New England and being able to go to the mountains and to the sea within a few hours drive is great. You can get that in other places in the country too. I love a great snow storm, the autumn air and spring time in New England as well. Other people hate snow and cold. The seasons are great and yea, the cold does suck once in a while.

To each each his own. What one loves and cherishes about a place, the other guy hates.....

It all personal opinion and taste. Nobody is right or wrong.
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Wait isn't this threat about AIG suing the people if the United States?
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I'm trying to figure out why RIJIMMY moved to Texas if Tennessee is the greatest place in the world to live.

And Jim, you've been to El Mariachi. It may not be the best, but it's no Taco Bell either. Point is, I like it. I've been to Mexico and had authentic Mexican food at several places. It was good, but not better than the local place. And next time you're in the area, I'll take you to a Thai restaurant that I can assure you is better than what you'll find in TN or TX.
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Which Thai?
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2X?

Place in Randolph. Malai.
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Dangles said he'd rather chew tin foil than live in TN. Seems a narrow minded, eltist northerner comment. I gave dangles the benefit of the doubt and allowed him to explain himslef. I dont know the first thing about TN. But I doubt its awful. If it is, its no more afwul than some of the places in NE. I wont debate food with you, I lived in San francisco which is the food capital of the US and as you know my wife is asian so I've been to a hell of alot of Thai places and most every other asian type of food. Living in CA and now TX, I really cant have a discussion on mexican food. you cant even compare. You watch the food network and when every other mexican place is in CA or TX an we have significant populations of mexicans, well, I may be crazy but Easton is not on the map. Panda Express is good chinese food to most americans.

To Dangles - all those things you listed are fine, but whats missing? Oh, I know. Unless you are Thurston Howell the III, everything you mentioned is LEISURE. How about the real world? WHats your commute like? If your wife works, whats her commute? Has your business or company grown? You mentioned the great cities of Boston, Providence and Newport - how are those cities faring? Are those cities in good economic shape? Are their jobs? How is Easton faring? Growing? Taxes going up? Schools - new and best technology or aging? Is your town looking better in the last 5 years or showing signs of decline? Hows your paycheck? What do you pay in state taxes? Do you have a say where that money goes? Whats the tuition for instate schools? Is it higher or lower than other states.
Leisure activities are opinions and I agree on the vast recreational activites in NE, however many states have them, but economic facts, are facts. Thats what Jim in Ct and I are trying to bring forward. I dont a thing about TN, but I know what I see in TX and you cannot even compare. Its like new england is 1978 and we're in 2012. its drastic.

Jim, clearly I'm not enough of a foodie to know good cuisine, but, I do seek out places that are different than the normal run of the mill chain restaurants. Last night I went to the Red Fez in Providence. Very eclectic menu and the food was excellent. You wouldn't even notice the place if you drove by it, and it's probably not listed in any of your food guides. There's also a Mexican place right down the street from my office, and it's really good. You won't believe it, but it's owned and operated by actual Mexicans! I know, you probably didn't realize that there are Mexicans anywhere else in the US besides Texas. It's crazy, I know. Authentic Mexican food in New England, who woulda thunk? And you know how I know it's authentic? Because when I go in there, I'm usually the only caucasian and they have to give me a different menu printed in English. And you know what else? There are Thai people in other places besides Thailand and San Francisco. You probably won't believe me but the place in Randolph is really, really good. And have you ever been to Chinatown in Boston? There are some pretty good (authentic) Chinese restaurants there. I'm curious how many great Chinese restaurants there are in your town?
And as far as Easton going down hill, I wouldn't say that. We actually have a budget surplus and property taxes have have pretty much stayed the same. Easton is also consistently ranked as one of the best places in the US to live based on schools, proximity to culture and safety, among other things. Sure, it's not utopia and I wish I paid less in taxes, but it's a great community with plenty to do close by. I guess everyone has their things that are important to them when deciding where to live. For me, it's about being near my family first, then being in a good place to raise a family, then being near the ocean. And I think you know me well enough to know that I'm no elitist.

I've been to Chinatown in Boston once a month for 11 yrs. My wife shops there. And thai and mexican restaurants in your area cater to Americans, not to thai and mexican people. Its fine food but wont make any top 10 outside of MA. Its a silly argument that Massacusetts mexican food is equivalent to TX and CA. Its plain crazy John. In my town alone there are over 15 different mexican restaunts, 15! The mission district in CA is world renowned and basically invented the incarnation of the burrito. I wont argue that TX and CA have good clam chowder, portugese food or even seafood in general. As far as Chinese or asian food in my area, Crazy, but there is a massive asian population in the DFW areas, There are asian stores the size of home depot, Im not exaggerating. Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese. Its Boston chinatown X 5. And its all awesome. My wife is an asian food fanatic, I cant tell you shes eaten every restaurant I can tell you she has no regrets living here and she is able to get more of her type of food here than in MA and that includes chinatown

look at the link and then the addl places on the right column, we searched for places like this in MA or even NE and nothing is close. There is an Hmart in burlington but it doenst comare. This place is a 15 minute ride and plenty of parking. There are tons of asian markets and restaurants here, tons!

http://www.yelp.com/biz/super-h-mart-carrollton

I know, Jim. I have no sense of what food is good and what isn't.:smash: Having been in the restaurant industry my entire working life and having gone to every big food expo in the Boston area for the last 12 years doesn't mean anything because I live in an area that only has good seafood and Portuguese food. But even though I have no taste, I find it hard to believe that there is not one good Mexican restaurant or Thai restaurant within 30 miles of my house. I guess since you've evidently tried them all, you can say that. I'll go next door and tell the Mexicans to close up shop and go to work at Taco Bell because their food isn't up to the standards of Mexican food in CA or TX.

BTW, my wife is Jewish so I can tell you if a brisket is good or if corn beef is edible.