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Slipknot 02-07-2015 12:49 PM

Abuse of power
 
http://conservativetribune.com/obama...reat-sheriffs/

that is what this is

read the whole thing, it's not that long

How long will this continue?

you people voted for him

spence 02-07-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1064222)
http://conservativetribune.com/obama...reat-sheriffs/

that is what this is

read the whole thing, it's not that long

How long will this continue?

you people voted for him

This stuff is great. I've noticed that an alarming number of postings from conservative tabloid sites all lead with some form of

BOMBSHELL!!!

Yet never actually report on anything substantial or rarely even cite credible references.

The first link refers it's based on another report that doesn't say anything different.

So all this hype is over a local sheriff's Facebook post???

Really???

Slipknot 02-07-2015 11:47 PM

How about the innocent Americans killed by illegal aliens convicts?
Is that hype?
That is his doing, if they were not here, they would not murder Americans

Impeach him
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Slipknot 02-07-2015 11:57 PM

Spencer Golvach

Google it

The American tea party
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Raven 02-08-2015 06:05 AM

he reminds me of a snake oil salesman like on Josey wales.

JohnR 02-08-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064224)
This stuff is great. I've noticed that an alarming number of postings from conservative tabloid sites all lead with some form of

BOMBSHELL!!!

Yet never actually report on anything substantial or rarely even cite credible references.

The first link refers it's based on another report that doesn't say anything different.

So all this hype is over a local sheriff's Facebook post???

Really???

Hey Spence: Here is the letter from the DHS.GOV site:

http://www.dhs.gov/news/2015/02/03/s...y-grant-making

Quote:

Statement by Secretary Jeh C. Johnson on the Consequences of our Homeland Security Grant-Making without a DHS Appropriations Bill

Release Date:
February 3, 2015


For Immediate Release
DHS Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010
In recent days I have repeatedly stressed the need for a DHS appropriations bill for FY 2015, unburdened by politically charged amendments that attempt to defund our executive actions on immigration reform. The President has made plain that he will veto a bill that includes such language.
As long as this Department -- which interfaces with the public more than any other -- is funded by a continuing resolution, there are a whole series of activities vital to homeland security and public safety that cannot be undertaken.
One of the many consequences of operating on a continuing resolution is our inability to fund new non-disaster grants to state, local and tribal governments, law enforcement, emergency response officials and fire departments. Every governor, mayor, police chief, county sheriff, emergency manager and fire chief should care about this. These officials know that the grants we provide help them protect their communities. For example, last week when I visited the multi-agency coordinating center in Phoenix responsible for the security of the Super Bowl, officials pointed out to me that almost all the surveillance and communications equipment there was funded by the Department of Homeland Security.
Here are some other examples of the types of state, local and tribal government activities vital to homeland security and public safety that are funded by grants from this Department:
  • salaries for state and local emergency managers in all 50 states, U.S. territories and the District of Columbia;
  • new communications equipment for over 80 public safety agencies in the Los Angeles area to replace aging and incompatible radio systems;
  • surveillance cameras and environmental sensors used by the New York City Police Department to detect in real time potential terrorist activity;
  • increased security for the MTA, PATH trains and tunnels in the New York City area;
  • improved campus security at K-12 public schools, colleges and universities in the state of Florida;
  • K-9 units to detect explosive ordinance in the state of Massachusetts;
  • upgraded oxygen masks and tanks for over 30 firefighter and law enforcement agencies in the Denver metropolitan area;
  • the Arizona Counterterrorism Fusion Center, which provides intelligence and information from this Department to state and local law enforcement there;
  • fifteen mobile command centers for possible catastrophic incidents in the state of Kentucky;
  • 150 firefighter jobs in the city of Detroit; and
  • bomb squads in the state of Idaho.
On behalf of the men and women of this Department who work every day to keep the homeland safe, I urge that Congress pass an appropriations bill for this Department, free of politically charged amendments to defund our executive actions. Time is running short.
For more information, visit www.dhs.gov.
###



Review Date:
February 3, 2015



So DHS is pressuring end usergroups to support the DHS budget in its entirety while the House of Reps reviews how to put the budget through without funding the executive actions done on behalf of illegal aliens (constitutional term) by Obama. Does that sum it up sufficiently for you? The Right Wing Bombshell site of DHS.GOV?

spence 02-08-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1064266)
How about the innocent Americans killed by illegal aliens convicts?
Is that hype?
That is his doing, if they were not here, they would not murder Americans
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What exactly is the administration "threatening" the local police with and how does this have any bearing on the Golvach killing?

What's the BOMBSHELL!!!!

Slipknot 02-08-2015 10:23 AM

it's a pattern with him
cause and effect
He wants to give amnesty and the public suffers, seems f'ed up to me so I say f him impeach him now

bombshell ? follow the evidence
John gave you a good example, did you see that?
strong arm politics Chicago style threatening local enforcement with budget cuts to get his way. seems pretty simple to me, your brain cannot see it though apparently.

I didn't know the Tea party site was a tabloid
most of the entire whack job Democrats are tabloid

Slipknot 02-08-2015 10:41 AM

http://conservativetribune.com/kelly-white-house/

watch the whole video

spence 02-08-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1064290)
So DHS is pressuring end usergroups to support the DHS budget in its entirety while the House of Reps reviews how to put the budget through without funding the executive actions done on behalf of illegal aliens (constitutional term) by Obama. Does that sum it up sufficiently for you? The Right Wing Bombshell site of DHS.GOV?

The article linked stated...

Quote:

BOMBSHELL: Obama Sends Letter Issuing Massive Threat to Sheriffs Across the Country
The DHS memo pretty calmly states to Congress that if they want to play politics with DHS funding it's going to have a direct impact on the people doing the work within their districts.

This isn't a "massive threat" and it's not a BOMBSHELL!!!

JohnR 02-08-2015 10:47 AM

Bruce - don't backstep so fast when Spence lays out his response - sometimes he is correct, more often he is not, frequently falling into the space between.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1064293)
I didn't know the Tea party site was a tabloid
most of the entire whack job Democrats are tabloid

BTW - what Tea Party site is Tabloid? or http://conservativetribune.com/

What Spence doesn't say is that MANY different Political sites can be considered Tabloid, he only says the Tea Party ones are Tabloid. He also meglects to mention that these sites - on both sides of the coin, like the political parties, like to cater to their base.

Bias is only bad if it is the other guys, right?

JohnR 02-08-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064299)
The article linked stated...



The DHS memo pretty calmly states to Congress that if they want to play politics with DHS funding it's going to have a direct impact on the people doing the work within their districts.

This isn't a "massive threat" and it's not a BOMBSHELL!!!


OMG, OMG, OMG, the used "BOMBSHELL" and then a colon to link to an article which references a true statement made by the DHS. Clearly they are evil and sensationalizing that topic because they used bombshell.

Did the post it in oversized font and in red?

spence 02-08-2015 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1064300)
What Spence doesn't say is that MANY different Political sites can be considered Tabloid, he only says the Tea Party ones are Tabloid. He also meglects to mention that these sites - on both sides of the coin, like the political parties, like to cater to their base.

Bias is only bad if it is the other guys, right?

I was responding to the link as posted, not making a broader analysis. My guess would be that there's nothing on the left that compares to the tabloid hype machine on the right.

Raider Ronnie 02-08-2015 11:37 AM

Years from now when it's too late Dinesh D'Souza will say I TOLD YOU SO !
2 pretty powerful documentaries he made
Obama's America 2012 & America, Imagine the world without her, say everything about this communist POS !

justplugit 02-08-2015 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064304)
I was responding to the link as posted, not making a broader analysis. My guess would be that there's nothing on the left that compares to the tabloid hype machine on the right.

"MY guess", Just another one of those favorite Spence's terms he uses when he can't document a statement. :hihi:

spence 02-08-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1064311)
"MY guess", Just another one of those favorite Spence's terms he uses when he can't document a statement. :hihi:

I see, so my opinions need foot notes?

Now that's a BOMBSHELL!!!

Slipknot 02-08-2015 01:16 PM

and asterisks

Slipknot 02-08-2015 01:34 PM

http://www.tpnn.com/2015/02/07/anoth...mnesty-policy/

you're either with us or against us

the Constitution is supreme and should be followed not tossed aside

Raider Ronnie 02-08-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1064317)
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/02/07/anoth...mnesty-policy/

you're either with us or against us

the Constitution is supreme and should be followed not tossed aside


It's pretty obvious Spence hates this country and the constitution
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spence 02-08-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1064317)
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/02/07/anoth...mnesty-policy/

you're either with us or against us

the Constitution is supreme and should be followed not tossed aside

Tragic, but what does the Constitution have to do with it?

Also to your link, what about Obama's policy constitutes "amnesty" and what about it contributed to this death?

spence 02-08-2015 04:25 PM

Woa, this seals the deal for me.

http://conservativetribune.com/did-o...it-hes-muslim/

Fly Rod 02-08-2015 07:34 PM

maybe before he leaves office he will introduce an exsecutive order make shariah law the law of the land...that will be his gift to the country.

justplugit 02-08-2015 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1064311)
"MY guess", Just another one of those favorite Spence's terms he uses when he can't document a statement. :hihi:


Now I see why you chose to use My Guess rather than opinion as Guess is a judgment based on Special Knowledge given by an Expert. :D :buds:

Raven 02-09-2015 08:23 AM

interesting
 
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/AF1.png

spence 02-09-2015 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1064319)
It's pretty obvious Spence hates this country and the constitution
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Obviously.

spence 02-09-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1064351)
maybe before he leaves office he will introduce an exsecutive order make shariah law the law of the land...that will be his gift to the country.

This is highly likely, almost inevitable when you think about it.

JohnR 02-09-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064304)
I was responding to the link as posted, not making a broader analysis. My guess would be that there's nothing on the left that compares to the tabloid hype machine on the right.

Ahhh, here is what you posted, I will bold it out though so you can see your broad brush ;)

"I've noticed that an alarming number of postings from conservative tabloid sites all lead with some form of

BOMBSHELL!!!"

Jim in CT 02-09-2015 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064304)
. My guess would be that there's nothing on the left that compares to the tabloid hype machine on the right.

I'm sur ethat would be your guess, and as usual, it woul dbe demonstrably false.

Obama himself says that "republicans gotta stop just hating all the time".

If y ouwatch MSNBC for any meaningful amount of time, you will hear that conservatives are racists who hate women, are Islamophobic, anti-science, and only care about the rich and hate the environment, poor people, and old people, evidenced by our stated miussion to destroy social security and medicare. Nope, no sensationalkizing there...

It's so common on the left, you don't notice it any more than a fish takes notice of teh fact that it's wet. It becomes the norm.

Clearlt it exists on the right but don't tell me that MSNBC and the Huffiungton Post aren't right up there. The New York Times, for Gods sake, ran a baseless story suggesting that John McCain's adopted daughter, was actually the child produced by an affair he had.

justplugit 02-09-2015 01:06 PM

It would be interesting to compare the number and content of negatives aimed at Bush from the left 10 ago vs the ones leveled at Obama currently.
Especially who lied the most between the two of them.

spence 02-09-2015 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1064394)
It would be interesting to compare the number and content of negatives aimed at Bush from the left 10 ago vs the ones leveled at Obama currently.
Especially who lied the most between the two of them.

10X

buckman 02-09-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1064394)
It would be interesting to compare the number and content of negatives aimed at Bush from the left 10 ago vs the ones leveled at Obama currently.
Especially who lied the most between the two of them.

10 years ago!! Just compare the number of negatives that Obama has said about Bush alone.
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PaulS 02-09-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1064394)
It would be interesting to compare the number and content of negatives aimed at Bush from the left 10 ago vs the ones leveled at Obama currently.
Especially who lied the most between the two of them.

I agree it would be interesting. I don't think it would be close. The far left yelled at Pres. Bush but the mainstream right has joined the far right to hurl insults at Pres Obama.

What % of right tried taking his God and country away from him by lying about his religion and where he was born? A large % still believe that.

Jim in CT 02-09-2015 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1064400)
I agree it would be interesting. I don't think it would be close. The far left yelled at Pres. Bush but the mainstream right has joined the far right to hurl insults at Pres Obama.

What % of right tried taking his God and country away from him by lying about his religion and where he was born? A large % still believe that.

"I don't think it would be close." Me either, and I'd bet the other way...

"The far left yelled at Pres. Bush "

Do you remember the 2004 and 2006 elections? It was brutal, he was called a war criminal. Harry Reid called him a loser. All a metter of perception, I guess.

"What % of right tried taking his God and country away from him by lying about his religion and where he was born?"

I bet the % of conservatives who genuinely believed he was a Muslim, is a lot lower than you'd guess. Hell, I wish he was a Muslim, as that is a lot easier to understand than how anyone, and I mean anyone, could listen to Rev Wright for 20 years and have no issues with any of it, until it became a political necessity. I'd rather have a Muslim president than a President whoi is a disciple of something called "black liberation theology".

"A large % still believe that"

I don't know if that's true. But I bet a large % of liberals believe that Bush/Cheney got us into the Iraq war for money,. or oil, or to finish what Bush 41 started, and that Bush "lied", etc...Oh, and that Bush somehow stole the election from Gore. let's not forget that he's a fictional president, and a mental lightweight, all that stuff.

Kooks on both sides. I'd bet everything I have in return for the spare change you have in your pocket, that Bush got more personal attacks

PaulS 02-09-2015 03:31 PM

Look at how much you post and insult the Pres. Is there anyone on here who insulted Pres. Bush that much?

I agree that there are kooks on both sides. It seems to me (as someone who voted for Pres. Bush for his first term) that the insults and complaints have bc more mainstream from the right.

So why/how did we get into Iraq? Was it a lie or the worse intelligence failure of our lifetime?

Don't you think getting us into a war would raises someone's hackles a lot more than providing them w/health insurance?

Jim in CT 02-09-2015 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1064428)
Look at how much you post and insult the Pres. Is there anyone on here who insulted Pres. Bush that much?

So why/how did we get into Iraq? Was it a lie or the worse intelligence failure of our lifetime?

True. But what I do is a reflection of me, it doesn't say anything about everyone else who happens to vote the same way as me. You have posted that Tea Baggers are racist. i don't hold anyone else accountable for that statement, just you.

"Is there anyone on here who insulted Pres. Bush that much?"

I didn't realize the question was limited to those who post here?

"So why/how did we get into Iraq?"

You don't know? The vast, vast majority of our leaders in DC authorized the use of force, because the vast, vast majority of them (including your party's next nominee for President, Hilary Clinton) were certain they had WMDs.

"Was it a lie or the worse intelligence failure of our lifetime"

It wasn't a lie, that's for sure. There's a big difference between being wrong, and lying. Did Hilary lie when she said Iraq had WMDs, and when she authorized the use of force?

It's fair to hold Bush accountable for his incorrect conclusion, but a large majority in DC (including Senators Clinton, Biden, Kerry, Edwards) also looked at the same intelligence, and consluded that the invasion was justified.

So why is Bush criticized (which is fair), and those Democrats who reached the exact same conclusion as Bush, get a free pass? Hmmm?

justplugit 02-09-2015 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1064396)
10X

10x
Is that your guess or your opinion. :)

scottw 02-10-2015 07:00 AM

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/398283/print


the president brings a lot of this upon himself with his demeanor....his predecessor(whom he has criticized to no end), on the other hand, was for the most part an honest and decent guy

I believe the only person truly capable if disrespecting the office is the office holder...at that...he has exceeded expectations

PaulS 02-10-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1064430)
True. But what I do is a reflection of me, it doesn't say anything about everyone else who happens to vote the same way as me.No but it is indicative of how the internet has made it easier for every Tom, #^&#^&#^&#^& and Harry to insult anyone they want. Is there any difference bt some troll who can't post anything more intelligent than insulting a Pres. name and a TV talking head besides the size of their audience? You have posted that Tea Baggers are racist. i don't hold anyone else accountable for that statement, just you.We all have seen the signs and until the leadership told their members to tone it down, the signs were very common at the early protests. You admitted that yourself previously.

"Is there anyone on here who insulted Pres. Bush that much?"

I didn't realize the question was limited to those who post here? Well the poster didn't state he was talking about the general public or here so I'll give you that one. But it is indicative of what has happened over the last # of years.

"So why/how did we get into Iraq?"

You don't know? The vast, vast majority of our leaders in DC authorized the use of force, because the vast, vast majority of them (including your party's next nominee for President, Hilary Clinton) were certain they had WMDs.

"Was it a lie or the worse intelligence failure of our lifetime"

It wasn't a lie, that's for sure So then it was the biggest intelligence failure of our lifetime?. There's a big difference between being wrong, and lying. Did Hilary lie when she said Iraq had WMDs, and when she authorized the use of force?She voted on what she was told - and the intelligence (or lack of intelligence) was all wrong.

It's fair to hold Bush accountable for his incorrect conclusion, but a large majority in DC (including Senators Clinton, Biden, Kerry, Edwards) also looked at the same intelligence, and consluded that the invasion was justified.

So why is Bush criticized (which is fair), and those Democrats who reached the exact same conclusion as Bush, get a free pass? Hmmm?

BC, it was HIS admin. who provided that intelligence for congress to vote on.

Again, I'll ask -don't you think people are more justified about getting us into a war based on bad intelligence (and I think it went beyond that to some lies and some ignoring anything that didn't fit in w/the what the admin. wanted) and trying to provide health insur. for people who don't have it?

Jim in CT 02-10-2015 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1064461)
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/398283/print


the president brings a lot of this upon himself with his demeanor....his predecessor(whom he has criticized to no end), on the other hand, was for the most part an honest and decent guy

I believe the only person truly capable if disrespecting the office is the office holder...at that...he has exceeded expectations

I forgot about "Romnesia". Great article. It's this clear pattern of behavior (my favorite - "Republicans gotta stop just hating all the time") that's so un-dignified and beneath the office, that makes me despise the man. He's an embarassment and a disgrace.

TheSpecialist 02-10-2015 10:52 AM

Why do you guys bother , it's like talking to a wall.............


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